The day I am told to report I will be there.

You do know what a militia is right?

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You and your fellas is mad jealous, attempting to flare
We cleverly stalked ya, your fam'll miss ya
The war's on, that's why we formed The Militia

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Yeah, it's a strange topic for me because I come down on the gun rights side but disagree with many of their arguments. I also hate the fact that Lapierre and the NRA have become the "face" of that side.

At the end of the day, to me, the right to bear arms is in the Bill of Rights, and arms have been defined as something one can carry. The Bill of Rights cannot be dicked with - it's a slippery slope. I also think banning guns would just create a black market like the War on Drugs.

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Quick question, im not a gun owner.

How is it stored? Isnt it that its supposed to be locked away with bullets in a separate location?

So how does that work when the intruder busts in?


Im sure there's an answer to this. Do you have drills?

ok honey, you put on the ski mask and bust in pretending to rob us
junior, you and sally go over there and time how fast it takes daddy to bust out the snub nose and fire a few rounds

You need to put it in a place which will be hard to find, like underneath a crib or near all your alcohol.

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See, that's why I would never have a gun in my house even though I support BRick's right to be a militia member. The chances of you or a loved one being shot/killed by your own gun are infinitely greater than the chances of you ever using it to stop an intruder.

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That is pretty much where I stand too.

I just worry that over the next 50 years that won't always be the case. We are lucky to live in as safe of a society as we do.

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It'll be like Walking Dead eventually. Our Zombies are in Washington.

Right. I wouldn't have a gun within our current context. But I'm not going to be Dustin Hoffman in Straw Dogs either. A gun is easier to handle than a pot of boiling oil or a fireplace poker.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I have never owned a gun either out of concern over an accidental or domestic incident. However, what the gun statistics will never show you is the deterrent effect on potential intruders. It is the same reason people put out security signs, beware of dog, or have a light timer (when out of town). It is to discourage break ins.

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Agreed. Any reluctance to maintain a standing army on the part of the founders was based on the concept that it might be used against the citizens. That's where the militia comes in. A militia is an army of the people rather than an army of the government.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I think it would be a good idea for the NRA to give it's members signs to put in their front lawn like security companies.

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They do give the car stickers, which if a robber sees on a car outside a house they were going to rob, they would probably think twice.
I live in a strong hunting/fishing area (You should see my facebook wall on the first day of the various hunting seasons...it's a thing). Living here has definitely changed my stance a little. While I am personally never going to own a gun or hunt anything, I do understand that hunting is especially important in the culture here. After all, this is where a lot of the original militia men for the revolutionary war came from. After all, my current state representative, who has been in office for 10 years, is a democrat and a member of the NRA

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So all you need is the sign, not the gun right?

you just need that recording of a dog barking like Archie had

That's a top 5 episode right there.

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But the chances of you getting injured by your own gun are pretty fucking low. I mean, there's something like 250 million weapons in the US. How many people are really injured by their own weapon? Not that many.

FULL DISCLOSURE! I did an evaporator replacement for a guy who shot his furnace with a 22 thinking it wasn't loaded. He's lucky because if you're that stupid you deserve to shoot yourself.

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I've seen various studies, but a gun is something like 20 times more likely to injure a household member via accident, suicide, or intentional shooting than it is to be used on an invader.

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And still less likely than falling off your own roof.

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I have no idea. That's a totally different argument. I will never have a gun for the above reason.

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That really is a wide range of instances.

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See this is where statistics are kind of silly. You might use a weapon to deter an invader, rather than use it, and it would not be included in that statistic. Or, perhaps you realize that the number of people who injure a household member with their own weapon are ridiculously small, smaller in fact that a lot of household accidents. The truth is that you're more likely to strangle a baby with mini blinds than accidently shoot a family member. There's 120 million homes with weapons, over half the homes in america have weapons, but accidental shooting are quite rare. But we got these stats that scare people into thinking that a gun in the home is so incredibly dangerous... but when you look at it, it's really not.

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I truly don't mean this to be dickish, but you seem to discount every study or opinion that even questions the safety of guns. Guns are not toys, so let's not make them out to be. They can kill someone instantly. That doesn't mean they should be banned, but we also shouldn't act like owning them is the same as owning a garbage disposal.

Personally, I have no use for a gun, so I'm not taking the risk of owning one for no reason. They would provide me no benefit or joy, so even a minimal chance of injury to me or my family is not worth it.

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Darko honest question. Would you be cool with regulating that all new guns sold need to have a bio-metric lock on them so that only the owner or certain designates (such as DW for you) would be able to use it?

Some stats on accidents involving firearms...

In 2007, there were 613 fatal firearm accidents in the United States, constituting 0.5% of 123,706 fatal accidents that year. 613 firearm accidents of 120 million homes and some 300 million total guns. By contrast, a 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year. Kind of changes that 20 times more likely thing a bit when people use the weapon WITHOUT firing it.

In 2007, 17% of fatal accidents were the result of slip and falls. Accidental poisonings with everyday household items were something like 20% of total accidents.

Firearm accidents were .05% of total ER visits.

For the record, statistics are manipulative, vague, and easily twisted to fit any model. I don't buy into them. You say 20 times more likely to get into an accident with a firearm than use one for defense, but I'd say of the 300 million guns in America, only 613 fatal accidents from them? More people by far died on Illinois roads last year alone. Just driving, going to work, whatever.

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I won't answer for Darko but I will answer. What is some shit comes down and I feel the need to engage. Assuming I am in the right but become injured or other wise incapacitated. What good does a bio metric gun do when I toss it to my fully trained son to save our ass? Just saying.

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