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Having had a child and all the crap you have to carry around for them, the big stroller can be needed. We also had a smaller like the one you showed for more crowded times.


I've never pushed a stroller in my life and I have 12 kids. Never had a problem not having one. I learned if I didn't make a big deal about having to walk or anything else they wouldn't either. I did make the mistake of not walking with a bag before. Took my son to the Bears game when he was 2. He was in the process of being potty trained to and had been doing well. Before we made it inside he told me he had to go to the bathroom. No problem at all. We found a corner without a lot of traffic and he got the opportunity to piss outside for the first time. Everything was perfect until midway through the 2nd quarter. He tells me he has to piss again but I tell him to wait because the Bears were driving for a score. Seconds later I feel the warm sensation of piss all over my leg and it felt as if it had gone on for mins. Even though he had on a pull up he still somehow pissed out the side of it. Fortunately it was warm that day and the piss was dry by the end of the game.

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Having had a child and all the crap you have to carry around for them, the big stroller can be needed. We also had a smaller like the one you showed for more crowded times.


I've never pushed a stroller in my life and I have 12 kids. Never had a problem not having one. I learned if I didn't make a big deal about having to walk or anything else they wouldn't either. I did make the mistake of not walking with a bag before. Took my son to the Bears game when he was 2. He was in the process of being potty trained to and had been doing well. Before we made it inside he told me he had to go to the bathroom. No problem at all. We found a corner without a lot of traffic and he got the opportunity to piss outside for the first time. Everything was perfect until midway through the 2nd quarter. He tells me he has to piss again but I tell him to wait because the Bears were driving for a score. Seconds later I feel the warm sensation of piss all over my leg and it felt as if it had gone on for mins. Even though he had on a pull up he still somehow pissed out the side of it. Fortunately it was warm that day and the piss was dry by the end of the game.

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A little bit of apples and oranges here. Kirkwood is mainly talking about Ukrainian Village, Lincoln Square, Lakeview, etc. The dynamics, pace, etc are a little more divergent, and sidewalk space a little more scarce. It's equivalent to someone driving a bumper car down the sidewalk at Clark and Belmont on a Saturday evening in June.

Right, it was just a simple douchebagging. I have no issue with aircraft carrier strollers in the right setting. Six flags, pumpkin picking or a water park? Go for it. Makes total sense.

But a crowded bar at 8pm or an absurdly crowded street festival? Perhaps pack the nimbler compact one? And with the bar getting very crowded maybe have your child sit politely instead of having him run around.


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Nas wrote:
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Having had a child and all the crap you have to carry around for them, the big stroller can be needed. We also had a smaller like the one you showed for more crowded times.


I've never pushed a stroller in my life and I have 12 kids. Never had a problem not having one. I learned if I didn't make a big deal about having to walk or anything else they wouldn't either. I did make the mistake of not walking with a bag before. Took my son to the Bears game when he was 2. He was in the process of being potty trained to and had been doing well. Before we made it inside he told me he had to go to the bathroom. No problem at all. We found a corner without a lot of traffic and he got the opportunity to piss outside for the first time. Everything was perfect until midway through the 2nd quarter. He tells me he has to piss again but I tell him to wait because the Bears were driving for a score. Seconds later I feel the warm sensation of piss all over my leg and it felt as if it had gone on for mins. Even though he had on a pull up he still somehow pissed out the side of it. Fortunately it was warm that day and the piss was dry by the end of the game.


Wow! You need to bring a child to piss on you at football games? You should talk to Mac. He knows how to piss himself.

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A little bit of apples and oranges here. Kirkwood is mainly talking about Ukrainian Village, Lincoln Square, Lakeview, etc. The dynamics, pace, etc are a little more divergent, and sidewalk space a little more scarce. It's equivalent to someone driving a bumper car down the sidewalk at Clark and Belmont on a Saturday evening in June.


I guess. I think it would suck to live in the city, especially with kids.

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But a crowded bar at 8pm or an absurdly crowded street festival? Perhaps pack the nimbler compact one? And with the bar getting very crowded maybe have your child sit politely instead of having him run around.


Kids should never be allowed to run around a restaurant. We never really have the small umbrella type stroller until my daughter turned 3 or so.


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A little bit of apples and oranges here. Kirkwood is mainly talking about Ukrainian Village, Lincoln Square, Lakeview, etc. The dynamics, pace, etc are a little more divergent, and sidewalk space a little more scarce. It's equivalent to someone driving a bumper car down the sidewalk at Clark and Belmont on a Saturday evening in June.


I guess. I think it would suck to live in the city, especially with kids.


I wouldn't trade growing up in the city for any realistic alternative, but I do question the wisdom of young families who attempt to raise and occupy their kids in areas that are currently not laid out with them in mind.

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A little bit of apples and oranges here. Kirkwood is mainly talking about Ukrainian Village, Lincoln Square, Lakeview, etc. The dynamics, pace, etc are a little more divergent, and sidewalk space a little more scarce. It's equivalent to someone driving a bumper car down the sidewalk at Clark and Belmont on a Saturday evening in June.
This is why they invented VFW Halls. Plenty of room. Not so many outlets.

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Having had a child and all the crap you have to carry around for them, the big stroller can be needed. We also had a smaller like the one you showed for more crowded times.


I've never pushed a stroller in my life and I have 12 kids. Never had a problem not having one. I learned if I didn't make a big deal about having to walk or anything else they wouldn't either. I did make the mistake of not walking with a bag before. Took my son to the Bears game when he was 2. He was in the process of being potty trained to and had been doing well. Before we made it inside he told me he had to go to the bathroom. No problem at all. We found a corner without a lot of traffic and he got the opportunity to piss outside for the first time. Everything was perfect until midway through the 2nd quarter. He tells me he has to piss again but I tell him to wait because the Bears were driving for a score. Seconds later I feel the warm sensation of piss all over my leg and it felt as if it had gone on for mins. Even though he had on a pull up he still somehow pissed out the side of it. Fortunately it was warm that day and the piss was dry by the end of the game.


Wow! You need to bring a child to piss on you at football games? You should talk to Mac. He knows how to piss himself.


I have a few more years for that hopefully. My son used to enjoy pissing on me I think. First day he came home he pissed in my face.

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A little bit of apples and oranges here. Kirkwood is mainly talking about Ukrainian Village, Lincoln Square, Lakeview, etc. The dynamics, pace, etc are a little more divergent, and sidewalk space a little more scarce. It's equivalent to someone driving a bumper car down the sidewalk at Clark and Belmont on a Saturday evening in June.


I guess. I think it would suck to live in the city, especially with kids.


I wouldn't trade growing up in the city for any realistic alternative, but I do question the wisdom of young families who attempt to raise and occupy their kids in areas that are currently not laid out with them in mind.

I love being born and raised in the city (and 3 years in Rockford, Spanky :oops: ), but if I have kids, there is no way I'd raise them in the city. Hell, I might even move out of state.

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No need to raise them at all. I remember Irish Boy telling us that kids are going to be who they are and there is nothing a parent can do to change that.

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Agreed but that's not just kids. Any family. I can talk shit about them...YOU cant.

Sure I can. We are critical of people all the time on this board. People we don't know. Someone is always someone's family member.

Or do you feel it is acceptable because you can get away with it behind the back of said person as long as a family member isn't around to hear it?

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Agreed but that's not just kids. Any family. I can talk shit about them...YOU cant.

Sure I can. We are critical of people all the time on this board. People we don't know. Someone is always someone's family member.

Or do you feel it is acceptable because you can get away with it behind the back of said person as long as a family member isn't around to hear it?

Im not sure if you're serious or what?

You dont understand that family can talk about family but they take exception if a non family member says the same thing?


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Agreed but that's not just kids. Any family. I can talk shit about them...YOU cant.

Sure I can. We are critical of people all the time on this board. People we don't know. Someone is always someone's family member.

Or do you feel it is acceptable because you can get away with it behind the back of said person as long as a family member isn't around to hear it?

Im not sure if you're serious or what?

You dont understand that family can talk about family but they take exception if a non family member says the same thing?

If it is a family-related / internal criticism, sure.

But if it is a general observation... go ahead. People can develop their own opinions about people from their own experiences and interactions. That is their prerogative.

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Agreed but that's not just kids. Any family. I can talk shit about them...YOU cant.

Sure I can. We are critical of people all the time on this board. People we don't know. Someone is always someone's family member.

Or do you feel it is acceptable because you can get away with it behind the back of said person as long as a family member isn't around to hear it?

Im not sure if you're serious or what?

You dont understand that family can talk about family but they take exception if a non family member says the same thing?

If it is a family-related / internal criticism, sure.

But if it is a general observation... go ahead. People can develop their own opinions about people from their own experiences and interactions. That is their prerogative.

Ok

You guys said parents say kids are a handful but get upset if someone else says it. Im saying it's the same for any family


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No need to raise them at all. I remember Irish Boy telling us that kids are going to be who they are and there is nothing a parent can do to change that.



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You guys said parents say kids are a handful but get upset if someone else says it. Im saying it's the same for any family

I didn't say it was right.

I think it is dumb.

Maybe someone NEEDS to tell some parents that their kids are brats - might assist parents in realizing they need to step up?

I understand kids will be kids...but a trip to any public place shows a large difference in behavior.

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You guys said parents say kids are a handful but get upset if someone else says it. Im saying it's the same for any family

I didn't say it was right.

I think it is dumb.

Maybe someone NEEDS to tell some parents that their kids are brats - might assist parents in realizing they need to step up?

I understand kids will be kids...but a trip to any public place shows a large difference in behavior.

Again, not disagreeing with you. Just saying it's a "family thing" not a "kids thing"



A good start to a well behaved child is proper setting. Of course they're gonna act up in a bar, they dont know what the fuck to do at a bar. Take em to the park and all of a sudden the same craziness is perfectly normal.

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So Kirkwood is essentially bitching about kids and families being at a street fest in the afternoon?

If we take our kids to a street fest at 3 pm on a Saturday, we sometimes go to the businesses that are in that neighborhood. Supporting the festival. Profiting from the festival. If only there were other 21+ places in the city he could have gone to during that time.

Stupid small towns with limited options.

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My son has just always tagged along with me and we have had some issues in the past, but you handle those situations and make sure they know what is right. I believe the more they are in public situations, the more they learn how to behave. Some of you have met my son and I don't think it was a problem that day. Every situation is different though.

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Some of you have met my son and I don't think it was a problem that day.

Agree to disagree.

I remember a lot of us complaining to him about letting his dad tag along with him.

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Some of you have met my son and I don't think it was a problem that day.

Agree to disagree.

I remember a lot of us complaining to him about letting his dad tag along with him.

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He did tell me he had this fear of Spanky, I don't have a clue why.

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So Kirkwood is essentially bitching about kids and families being at a street fest in the afternoon?

If we take our kids to a street fest at 3 pm on a Saturday, we sometimes go to the businesses that are in that neighborhood. Supporting the festival. Profiting from the festival. If only there were other 21+ places in the city he could have gone to during that time.

Stupid small towns with limited options.

No. Read the title. Bars.

Do Divison Fest had a large family area. They are more than welcome and entitled to be there. I just wished parents could have a more compact stroller in such situations.


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So Kirkwood is essentially bitching about kids and families being at a street fest in the afternoon?

If we take our kids to a street fest at 3 pm on a Saturday, we sometimes go to the businesses that are in that neighborhood. Supporting the festival. Profiting from the festival. If only there were other 21+ places in the city he could have gone to during that time.

Stupid small towns with limited options.



One year I was at the Old Town Art Fair with a couple other guys. We were dressed as one might expect for a street festival. We decided to eat at O'Brien's. When we went in the host looked at us and said, "We don't serve hamburgers." :lol: Needless to say I no longer patronize O'Brien's. The unbelievable snootiness! It's not like their food is even that good. And how would you expect people to be dressed during the street fair?

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Some of you have met my son and I don't think it was a problem that day.

Agree to disagree.

I remember a lot of us complaining to him about letting his dad tag along with him.

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So Kirkwood is essentially bitching about kids and families being at a street fest in the afternoon?

If we take our kids to a street fest at 3 pm on a Saturday, we sometimes go to the businesses that are in that neighborhood. Supporting the festival. Profiting from the festival. If only there were other 21+ places in the city he could have gone to during that time.

Stupid small towns with limited options.



One year I was at the Old Town Art Fair with a couple other guys. We were dressed as one might expect for a street festival. We decided to eat at O'Brien's. When we went in the host looked at us and said, "We don't serve hamburgers." :lol: Needless to say I no longer patronize O'Brien's. The unbelievable snootiness! It's not like their food is even that good. And how would you expect people to be dressed during the street fair?


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