No more Cubs on WGN

Seacrest · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:52 pm

That's a long time thing coming to an end.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:58 pm

Ricketts is just the worst

Nas · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:02 pm

It's so hard to say goodbye...

Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:04 pm

"Sources familiar with the deal said the Cubs could move to CBS Radio sports/talk WSCR AM 670 if the Score loses the White Sox broadcast rights after next year."

City of Fools · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:07 pm

Peoria Matt wrote:

"Sources familiar with the deal said the Cubs could move to CBS Radio sports/talk WSCR AM 670 if the Score loses the White Sox broadcast rights after next year."

my crystal ball says that's exactly what happens.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:08 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

Ricketts is just the worst

I'm in the clubhouse now. Did you know that the existence of rooftops forces us to broadcast our games on a 10-watt daytimer?

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:08 pm

Quote:

“We’re behind Theo and Jed, and we were prepared to lose a lot of money, as we have over time, to stick with them as they build,” deCastro said. Among his proposals to keep the Cubs on WGN were a variety of rights arrangements, revenue-sharing deals on top of guarantees, and even a plan that would have given the Cubs ownership in the station.

But in the end, Kenney and the Cubs went strictly by the numbers, and WGN chose to waive its right to match CBS Radio’s seven-year cash offer.

Ricketts is that desperate for cash?! Kenney is that stupid to not realize what an asset 720 is?! Fuck these bums

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:10 pm

This is lose-lose for the Cubs and WGN. Both parties here just suck.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:14 pm

I still remember 3-4 years ago driving by myself to Toronto. I was 30 minutes across the border and was spinning the dial for some talk radio to keep me awake as I had 4 more hours to go. Lo and behold I was able to catch the Cubs crystal clear playing a West Coast game. They sucked but I was so happy.

K Effective · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:15 pm

I realize GN aint what it used to be, either radio or television, but this sure sounds like slaughtering that golden goose. If the hayseeds in Iowa and surrounding states like mine can't hear or see the games, they sure as hell aren't coming to Wrigleyville to pony up for game tix.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:19 pm

This is a terrible allocation of resources in that it takes away valuable news programming from 780 and leaves WGN with more Bob Sirott than anyone can bear. Don't forget that 105.9 is just a simulcast of 780 now because Zimmerman is too cheap to program another station. Radio sucks. It just sucks.

City of Fools · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:20 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

I still remember 3-4 years ago driving by myself to Toronto. I was 30 minutes across the border and was spinning the dial for some talk radio to keep me awake as I had 4 more hours to go. Lo and behold I was able to catch the Cubs crystal clear playing a West Coast game. They sucked but I was so happy.

780 goes pretty far too.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:22 pm

780 gets kind of buzzy on a lot of receivers, I've noticed. The sound quality is a step down from 720 and 670, which always sound very good by AM standards, to me, at least. But hey, don't let anything ever stop you from sucking dumb Nebraska cock like you always do. More radio money means you can sell more of your season tickets, right?

K Effective wrote:

I realize GN aint what it used to be, either radio or television, but this sure sounds like slaughtering that golden goose. If the hayseeds in Iowa and surrounding states like mine can't hear or see the games, they sure as hell aren't coming to Wrigleyville to pony up for game tix.

This reminds me of the whole Peoria controversy and how Dan was getting so shrill about how "NO ONE CARES ABOUT MARKETING TO PEORIA! MARKET. TO. CHICAGO!", which is great and all except that hey, dipshit, don't you see how many baseball teams successfully market to entire regions? Not only should you not do what the generally successful Cardinals do, you should cede more of your fanbase to the Cardinals themselves. Really smart. I've never seen a team try to decrease its market share like the Cubs have done under this ownership. I guess one White Sox wasn't enough for this town.

City of Fools · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:27 pm

Curious Hair wrote:

780 gets kind of buzzy on a lot of receivers, I've noticed. The sound quality is a step down from 720 and 670, which always sound very good by AM standards, to me, at least. But hey, don't let anything ever stop you from sucking dumb Nebraska cock like you always do. More radio money means you can sell more of your season tickets, right?

K Effective wrote:

I realize GN aint what it used to be, either radio or television, but this sure sounds like slaughtering that golden goose. If the hayseeds in Iowa and surrounding states like mine can't hear or see the games, they sure as hell aren't coming to Wrigleyville to pony up for game tix.

This reminds me of the whole Peoria controversy and how Dan was getting so shrill about how "NO ONE CARES ABOUT MARKETING TO PEORIA! MARKET. TO. CHICAGO!", which is great and all except that hey, dipshit, don't you see how many baseball teams successfully market to entire regions? Not only should you not do what the generally successful Cardinals do, you should cede more of your fanbase to the Cardinals themselves. Really smart. I've never seen a team try to decrease its market share like the Cubs have done under this ownership. I guess one White Sox wasn't enough for this town.

you do realize I'm with you on your TV points. I've just always hated WGN radio. And nothing at this point will help me sell more season tickets. What's with the Nebraska comment? They are dumb to ignore Peoria, et al. They should put every game back on the superstation. WGN always sounds whiney to me while 780 comes in clear as a bell out here in the sticks.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:30 pm

City of Fools wrote:

you do realize

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=86997&start=25#p1993282

City of Fools · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:31 pm

Curious Hair wrote:

City of Fools wrote:

you do realize

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=86997&start=25#p1993282

whoops.

Do you realize.

Godfella · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:12 am

Jimmy de Castro & Todd Manley will be on the Steve Cochran Show at 9:10 this morning to discuss the details. Cochran just said that WGN will lose around 6 million dollars this year alone on Cubs broadcasts.

Rod · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:24 am

Kirkwood wrote:

Ricketts is just the worst

I don't think this decision is really a choice by Ricketts. I read yesterday that WGN made the call to get rid of the Cubs.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Who cares? Its just a channel

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:33 am

As long as Pat Hughes gets re-signed, this does not matter. WGN is a radio station...we're going to be nostalgic for the annoying station break calls?

Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:40 am

rogers park bryan wrote:

Who cares? Its just a channel

Agree. If they are going to get more money from 'BBM, why the hell wouldn't they?

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:40 am

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Ricketts is just the worst

I don't think this decision is really a choice by Ricketts. I read yesterday that WGN made the call to get rid of the Cubs.

Given Rickett's choice to pinch pennies and field a AAA team, WGN exercised their option to end their existing contract. That contract was to broadcast a major league team. From Feder it appears like WGN was trying to negotiate a fair contract but Ricketts took the best cash offer and ran.

immessedup17 wrote:

As long as Pat Hughes gets re-signed, this does not matter. WGN is a radio station...we're going to be nostalgic for the annoying station break calls?

I enjoyed how WGN catered to the Cubs. Just like WSCR caters to the White Sox by broadcasting the dreadful White Sox Weekly with Rongey. On WBBM they're second fiddle to the Bears and traffic on the 8's.

Godfella · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:43 am

immessedup17 wrote:

As long as Pat Hughes gets re-signed, this does not matter. WGN is a radio station...we're going to be nostalgic for the annoying station break calls?

WGN Sports is reporting that Pat Hughes & Ron Coomer will remain the radio voices even after this season.

Wonder what this means for Judd Sirott? He most likely stays with WGN Radio Sports? He does a lot with The Blackhawks as well.

Gloopan Kuratz · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:43 am

Mackey stays on middays and DAAAAMAAAANEAL GOT EARLY QUIT TICKET

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:31 am

Godfella wrote:

WGN Sports is reporting that Pat Hughes & Ron Coomer will remain the radio voices even after this season.

Pat Hughes contract is up after the 2015 season, not this season.

DannyB · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:45 am

Curious Hair wrote:

This is a terrible allocation of resources in that it takes away valuable news programming from 780 and leaves WGN with more Bob Sirott than anyone can bear. Don't forget that 105.9 is just a simulcast of 780 now because Zimmerman is too cheap to program another station. Radio sucks. It just sucks.

I agree, if WBBM is the highest billing station in the market, why would they jeopardize that with Cubs baseball, including a month of exhibition games? I was surprised to see that they only had like 41 million in revenue. Isn't that about on par with Bob Chinn's?

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43552

immessedup17 wrote:

Godfella wrote:

WGN Sports is reporting that Pat Hughes & Ron Coomer will remain the radio voices even after this season.

Pat Hughes contract is up after the 2015 season, not this season.

I'm sure WGN would gladly let him move over to CBS if they picked up the 2015 season on his contract. What else would Pat Hughes do on WGN?

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:25 am

Douchebag wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

Godfella wrote:

WGN Sports is reporting that Pat Hughes & Ron Coomer will remain the radio voices even after this season.

Pat Hughes contract is up after the 2015 season, not this season.

I'm sure WGN would gladly let him move over to CBS if they picked up the 2015 season on his contract. What else would Pat Hughes do on WGN?

I'm not sure why there seems to be confusion on this subject?

Pat Hughes is moving over with the Cubs to WBBM for 2015, as is Ron Coomer. WBBM pays that 2015 salary, and honors the WGN / Pat Hughes / Cubs 2015 contract.

WBBM then negotiates the next Pat Hughes contract. And I'm fairly sure Pat Hughes wants to stick around...but obviously...salary, taking an inning off...stuff like that is also important to Hughes I'm sure.

Peoria Matt · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:30 am

immessedup17 wrote:

I'm not sure why there seems to be confusion on this subject?

Exactly.

Cubs opted out early on their WGN deal, didn't like what they were offered and found a better deal.

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:33 am

Peoria Matt wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

I'm not sure why there seems to be confusion on this subject?

Exactly.

Cubs opted out early on their WGN deal, didn't like what they were offered and found a better deal.

WGN opted out, not the Cubs. WGN had the right to re-open the contract and did so...and the Cubs had the right to field other offers.

After the Cubs agreed to another offer, WGN retained the right to match it, and chose not to.

No more Cubs on WGN

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