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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:17 am 
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I fucking loathe minivans. Bet your ass it will be in the left lane, creeping along around 3-5 m.p.h. under the speed limit, with an oblivious-to-the-world housewife behind the wheel, chatting away on her phone to some other Caller Bob about the 15% coupon she just used at Forever 21.

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I'll be 48 and entering the prime of my life when the twins go off to college....

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I love the minivan. I always wanted one and couldnt be happier. Its awesome, I dont like paying for it but I love driving it.


I guess "prime of my life" is a relative term.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:20 am 
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I love the minivan. I always wanted one and couldnt be happier. Its awesome, I dont like paying for it but I love driving it.


Had a sweet minivan in college. It had it's uses and they were awesome.


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I fucking loathe minivans..

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redskingreg wrote:
I fucking loathe minivans..

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redskingreg wrote:
I fucking loathe minivans..

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I love the minivan. I always wanted one and couldnt be happier. Its awesome, I dont like paying for it but I love driving it.

:cheers:

Minivans are freaking awesome. Our family drove to Yellowstone 3 times and upstate New York 3 times for summer vacations and our van made it very comfortable experience. My two brothers and I are all over 6ft+ 225lb+ so having a van made family transport a breeze when we were teenagers. Sure, when we were toddler my parents got away driving a Honda Accord to Delaware when we went for our summer vacation.

The versatility of a van is kickass. When my buddies and I roadtripped to Cleveland for the Browns/Bears game I borrowed my parents van to tailgate. Able to stock that sucker with grill, tent, table, food, beer etc. Rented a tiller to prepare grandparents, parents and aunt's garden. Threw down a tarp and was able to transport the tiller no problem. Need to buy lumber or transport a mattress? Sure, tie that lumber down on the top of your car with the Home Depot twine like I've seen so many dumbshits do. Oooooor, simply throw it in the van and close the trunk door. 8)

Hank you are 100% right on the glory of minivans.


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I fucking loathe minivans. Bet your ass it will be in the left lane, creeping along around 3-5 m.p.h. under the speed limit, with an oblivious-to-the-world housewife behind the wheel, chatting away on her phone to some other Caller Bob about the 15% coupon she just used at Forever 21.


:lol: :cheers:

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Hatchbacks and wagons offer most of the versatility...as well as better acceleration, handling, comfort, and are not shameful.

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What about a big, juicy van?

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I My two brothers and I are all over 6ft+ 225lb+ .


I didn't know they could stack shit that high.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
I My two brothers and I are all over 6ft+ 225lb+ .


I didn't know they could stack shit that high.

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I swear I think more people read this board than we realize.

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Palmer Square Park Traffic 'Speedway' Threatens Stroller Moms, Some Say

LOGAN SQUARE — Traffic-calming measures — shelved nearly a decade ago at Palmer Square — are being revived as the park’s popularity continues to climb.

Supporters say the addition of speed tables, also known as raised intersections, to the streets around the park will curb the use of Palmer Boulevard as “a speedway” for drivers attempting to outmaneuver Fullerton Avenue traffic.

But those against the measures say the price tag is too high when other solutions are readily available.

While the issue itself isn’t new, the demographics of Palmer Square have changed alongside an overall shift in Logan Square. The seven-acre park and tot lot has become a hotspot for young moms and kids who are at the mercy of speeding cars on the street, said Steve Hier, a resident whose front window has faced the park since the late '70s.

“Every day I see the moms pushing the kids across Albany [Avenue] at peril. … Cars do not stop — period. They drive 40 to 60 in a 25-mile-per-hour zone, and even if you step out a little bit they’ll go around people. Someone is going to get killed or seriously injured,” Hier said.

He estimated that 20 to 40 people, many children from nearby homes and schools, can be seen at the park at any given time.

Organizers are circulating a petition seeking to drum up support for increased traffic measures. But Ald. Scott Waguespack (32nd) says the request for raised intersections has not been approved by the Chicago Department of Transportation.

“We are moving ahead with CDOT to have new or repainted crosswalks done throughout Palmer Square, and adding in crosswalk stop for pedestrian signs,” Waguespack said via email. "There was an assessment done for other measures that are not CDOT-approved, so we are starting with CDOT-approved safety measures."

The upgrades, however, could be installed in time for the upcoming school year, he said.

The cost of installing four speed tables at the square would cost about $550,000 of the 32nd ward’s discretionary budget, Waguespack said, compared to around $160,000 to repaint all of the park’s crosswalks and add the word “stop” on the street at each crossing point.

Corinne Bradley, along with several other Palmer Square Park residents, has met with Waguespack to cite a number of reasons why the speed tables would be a detriment to the park’s atmosphere.

“The short of it is many of us on the block are opposed. We’d like to see more cost-effective measures that are less intrusive. … For me it's not a big enough issue to create these speed bumps,” she said.

In a letter to Waguespack, Bradley says a survey she took of area residents shows no consensus on the speed tables. Some were concerned that speed tables would impede fire and police vehicles, hinder cyclists on the street's designated bike lane and cause constant noise from passing cars.

Ald. Rey Colon (35th) said many of the same issues were brought up in past years, when the park was still in his ward. Colon said he's invested millions of dollars into the park, which “used to be a place where people would drink and chill.”

Colon said he’s always supported the installation of speed tables, parking alterations, bump-outs, and other traffic calming measures at Palmer Square. But forceful community resistance over the years kept many changes at bay.

Colon said of upgrades like the tot-lot and new stop signs the city installed around 2005 "changed the character [of the park] making it more inviting for people who want to use it.”

However, Colon said he thinks repainting of the crosswalks “is sufficient if [Waguespack] has other issues to take care of in his ward.”

“The speed tables are the bells and whistles, it’s a high expense for a glorified speed bump," said Colon. "But I wouldn’t do the [speed] tables unless I got the whole enchilada,” which includes another looming issue — a controversial ordinance allowing parking along the center lane of Palmer Boulevard on Sundays.


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Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.

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Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Were you quiet for him or were you rude?

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Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Babies who are 4 to 8 weeks old are great to take out to restaurants because they will often sleep through meals regardless of the noise level at a given menu. They seem to be much less tolerant of such outings once they hit the 12-week mark.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Babies who are 4 to 8 weeks old are great to take out to restaurants because they will often sleep through meals regardless of the noise level at a given menu.


This one didn't. :lol: He didn't really bother me though. Anyway, I don't expect parents to hide in their houses for 15 years. Just have enough sense to realize that the whole world doesn't revolve around your baby. When that fucker starts caterwauling, get up and take him out of the dining room. I know you're used to hearing him yell, but when I'm dropping $200 on dinner I shouldn't have to.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Babies who are 4 to 8 weeks old are great to take out to restaurants because they will often sleep through meals regardless of the noise level at a given menu.


This one didn't. :lol: He didn't really bother me though. Anyway, I don't expect parents to hide in their houses for 15 years. Just have enough sense to realize that the whole world doesn't revolve around your baby. When that fucker starts caterwauling, get up and take him out of the dining room. I know you're used to hearing him yell, but when I'm dropping $200 on dinner I shouldn't have to.


i saw something last week that , while not completely surprising, i hadn't really encountered before

i'm in a liquor store (Kenwood as a matter of fact)

Guy is pushing a cart around with his kid in the top of the cart....kid has some kind of tablet and is watching a cartoon or kids show, at an insanely loud volume. as in you probably could have heard it from outside the store

i think i almost would have rather the kid have been crying

sure this era of mobile devices is great for placating your kid while you shop for booze, but its basically the equivalent of walking around with a giant boombox radio raheem style


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Bagels wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Babies who are 4 to 8 weeks old are great to take out to restaurants because they will often sleep through meals regardless of the noise level at a given menu.


This one didn't. :lol: He didn't really bother me though. Anyway, I don't expect parents to hide in their houses for 15 years. Just have enough sense to realize that the whole world doesn't revolve around your baby. When that fucker starts caterwauling, get up and take him out of the dining room. I know you're used to hearing him yell, but when I'm dropping $200 on dinner I shouldn't have to.


i saw something last week that , while not completely surprising, i hadn't really encountered before

i'm in a liquor store (Kenwood as a matter of fact)

Guy is pushing a cart around with his kid in the top of the cart....kid has some kind of tablet and is watching a cartoon or kids show, at an insanely loud volume. as in you probably could have heard it from outside the store

i think i almost would have rather the kid have been crying

sure this era of mobile devices is great for placating your kid while you shop for booze, but its basically the equivalent of walking around with a giant boombox radio raheem style

That is 14 miles past acceptable.

I would have said something.


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Bagels wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Babies who are 4 to 8 weeks old are great to take out to restaurants because they will often sleep through meals regardless of the noise level at a given menu.


This one didn't. :lol: He didn't really bother me though. Anyway, I don't expect parents to hide in their houses for 15 years. Just have enough sense to realize that the whole world doesn't revolve around your baby. When that fucker starts caterwauling, get up and take him out of the dining room. I know you're used to hearing him yell, but when I'm dropping $200 on dinner I shouldn't have to.


i saw something last week that , while not completely surprising, i hadn't really encountered before

i'm in a liquor store (Kenwood as a matter of fact)

Guy is pushing a cart around with his kid in the top of the cart....kid has some kind of tablet and is watching a cartoon or kids show, at an insanely loud volume. as in you probably could have heard it from outside the store

i think i almost would have rather the kid have been crying

sure this era of mobile devices is great for placating your kid while you shop for booze, but its basically the equivalent of walking around with a giant boombox radio raheem style

:lol:

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Bagels wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Went out for dinner at Two on Grand Avenue last night. As soon as I walked in I saw a stroller bigger than my car and a baby that was so young and small I suspect he had been born right in the restaurant only moments before I arrived.


Babies who are 4 to 8 weeks old are great to take out to restaurants because they will often sleep through meals regardless of the noise level at a given menu.


This one didn't. :lol: He didn't really bother me though. Anyway, I don't expect parents to hide in their houses for 15 years. Just have enough sense to realize that the whole world doesn't revolve around your baby. When that fucker starts caterwauling, get up and take him out of the dining room. I know you're used to hearing him yell, but when I'm dropping $200 on dinner I shouldn't have to.


i saw something last week that , while not completely surprising, i hadn't really encountered before

i'm in a liquor store (Kenwood as a matter of fact)

Guy is pushing a cart around with his kid in the top of the cart....kid has some kind of tablet and is watching a cartoon or kids show, at an insanely loud volume. as in you probably could have heard it from outside the store

i think i almost would have rather the kid have been crying

sure this era of mobile devices is great for placating your kid while you shop for booze, but its basically the equivalent of walking around with a giant boombox radio raheem style


I found liquor stores vastly stimulating when I was a kid. All booze labels, hanging advertisements, cardboard women in bikinis and shitty candy at the front counter. And now with all the ridiculous craft beer labels? That's like Noggin for a young me.

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You are not to far away from us yourself.

I don;t know how to break this to you Hawg.......but I am never going to be any closer to you in age.

Let that swirl around in your (pork) tenderloin for a minute. :wink:

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You are not to far away from us yourself.

I don;t know how to break this to you Hawg.......but I am never going to be any closer to you in age.

Let that swirl around in your (pork) tenderloin for a minute. :wink:

I could go for some pork tenderloin, will have to do that on the grill this weekend. Thanks for the suggestion.

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