I like how a BA in the .260's is great for Abreu, and terrible for Castro.

This is why we go by OPS in 2014.

That being said, Castro still has the 8th highest OPS of any SS in the majors. And I see him finishing the season around .800...maybe a bit less.

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OPS is great for Abreu too.

Lots of people expected more from Castro given how he performed when he first came up.

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If Castro was going to hit 30-40 home runs I would be fine with him hitting .260 also, instead he is working his way toward my bench for my fantasy team.

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...He had a .755 OPS his rookie season.

He has a .741 OPS right now.

I forget what official 'difference label' I had for .014 but it isn't significant.

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I'd like my 3rd or 4th place hitter to be better than .260 if he's not going to hit 30 HRs or walk a lot . 265 with 15 HRs is a little thin at those spots in the order

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

but he has more hits at this age than Derrick Jeter, Ozzie Smith and Harry Chappas.

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Let's clarify this.

The Cubs are a piss poor team with very little talent on the major league club. Everyone in this batting order is where they are by necessity. Besides Rizzo being a good 2 or 5 hitter, and Castro being a good 6 hitter...the Cubs have about 11 8-spot hitters.

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For the 3rd year in a row. But Theo and Jed are doing a good job.

Doesn't add up.

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It adds up just fine.

Organizations are rebuilt from the bottom up. If no shortcuts are taken, the major league team would be the last place improvements are visible to casual baseball fans such as yourself.

When Rizzo, Castro, Bryant, and Baez are all locked up in club-friendly deals...the organization will be in a fantastic position to fill necessary gaps with solid free agents...and are still able to continue spending smart money on player scouting and development.

But I hope you're still happy in 2018 when the 2014 White Sox were 78-84 instead of 71-91.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

It's always a good sign when a player regresses from his rookie year.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Sale, Quintana, Abreu, Eaton, Avi Garcia are all locked up in club-friendly deals. The Sox organization will be in a fantastic position to fill gaps with the Dunn, Konerko, and Danks $ coming off the books. Hahn has almost completely re-tooled his Major League club in basically a year and a half while still adding pieces to the minor leagues.

Theo & Jed could have easily built a better big league team AND restocked the minors. Some of that is on Ricketts no doubt, but some of that must be on the GM and Theo. The White Sox are 1 game out of the Wild Card and 3 back of the division. They are contending right now after losing 99 games last season. 1 game over .500 gets you at least in the discussion for the Wild Card. Theo's team can barely win 72 games, much less get to .500 in his third season with the club. The Cubs have the worst record in MLB, even the Astros and Marlins are better. I say again, and say correctly, it doesn't add up for Jed & Theo.

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even more frustrating is the people who will undoubtedly believe the first 3 (and most likely more than that) years of record breaking MLB futility are justified when they finally contend, as they are statistically likely to do at some point in the future under any leadership

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If Ricketts wont spend then I dont see how this is on Epstein or Hoyer


I mean they've made some nice moves picking up pitchers and trading them (Feldman, Maholm etc), made a good deal for Travis Wood and the Rizzo Cashner trade is looking like a winner

Edwin Jackson and Ian Stewart were bad.


Judging off of those moves they're doing fine.


I dont think you can assume that money is available but the GM's are saying "No thanks"


I think Epstein probably envisioned a slow climb to contention when he got here.

Two things

The Cubs didnt have Jake Peavy to trade


4 of your 5 club friendly guys have been on the DL this year

Agreed. Makes the rebuilding job that was done even more impressive.

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What?

Acquiring injury prone players is now a good thing?

So you hit the DL once and you are injury prone? Cubs better get rid of Wellington Castillo now then.

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Elmhurst Park Bryan.

Can you predict the next four injuries on the Sox like you predicted those?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

What are you talking about?

I pointed out that 4 of the 5 cornerstones have been hurt this year. That's it.

Then you said something about that being impressive so I was confused.

It's impressive that even with the injuries the Sox are significantly better.

Imagine where the Sox would be if they weren't so unlucky in the injury department!

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I just didnt really get Rick's question.

I would say Garcia and Eaton are injury prone because of their style of play. Not sure on Sale and Abreu but I wouldnt say they're injury prone yet

Ah. I dont think injuries are completely luck but ok.

You guys seem really excited to be 31-30. Congrats!

1 game out of a playoff spot right now. Why shouldn't Sox fans be at least a little bit excited about that?

When was the last time the Cubs were over .500 this late in the season?

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Not even close to the half-way point...whoa that thing.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the White Sox have played some of their best ball of the season already...and will finish at least a few games under .500.

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I should expect that coming from Cubs fans who are OK with losing 90+ games for 3, 4, 5 years in a row on the basis that maybe they will contend in 2016 or 2017.

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Im not happy with the Cubs


You can be excited. Im just pointing it out.

I hear what you are saying, but its not just a 31-30 record. Its that the MLB team has been almost totally revamped in one offseason. The Cubs didn't have Jake Peavy to trade, but the guy the Sox got for him hasn't been on the team since April 10th. Its the other moves that have Sox fax excited. Its that the entire team (except for Sale who was good in 2013) looks completely different from how they looked last year.

If you came up to me last SEptember after the 99th loss and said that in early June 2014 the Sox would be above .500, 3 games back of the division lead, and 1 game out of the Wild Card, I don't think there is a fan around who would have been upset with such a turnaround. m We'll see if it lasts, but I think I can speak for all Sox fans when I say that we have a lot more confidence in this year's club keep this success up than we did in last year's.

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Adam Eaton is the best leaderoff hitter on the Sox I've seen in 30 years!

No one can hit .247 with a .306 obp like he can.