This guy has got to be the dumbest son of a bitch in the entire world. He's approaching Bevington territory now. First, I heard him babble some explanation about why he didn't want to play Dunn in left even though he was something like 8 for 13 lifetime vs. Kershaw (that does seem hard to believe), and then he puts him in left for the other two games of the series. And then last night. Yeah, last night. I guess 7 innings of scoreless baseball and 100 pitches just wasn't enough. Anyone with eyes could see how much Sale struggled to get that last out in the seventh. I was shocked when they brought him back out there. But then to just let him keep getting hit until the score was tied? I keep seeing things I've never seen before from this guy. That may have been worse than letting a second baseman pitch in a tie game.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I take it the Sox lost last night?

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

But did he light up a room?

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Should have hired Jack McDowell or Bobby Thigpen.

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They should just let Hawk manage the team.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

If Theo gets to manage the Cubs then I'm down for this.

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Would love to see this.

Someone would gvie Hawk a spray chart and he would tell them F off. He doesnt need that shit.

Then he would walk around the dugout asking when is Abreu up.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

just saw the lowlights. Another "tough" loss for Chris Sale. Dude's been hanging with John Danks I guess.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I think Bevington actually understood how to manage far more than Ventura does.

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what?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Hatchetman from Niles.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Argh! I was just gonna post this here.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

I wonder whose bat he used?

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Probably De Aza's. He isn't using it.

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Good people drink good beer - Hunter S. Thompson

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

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I LIKEY... worst G.M. and announcer in team history ...let him get the hat trick n replace terry bevington as worst skip.

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Serious. Contenders.

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Another obsessed Cub fan. Don't you have prospects to worry about?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Someone should tell Sale there is no such thing as bad luck or lack of run support. If he was better then the other pitcher, he would have won. Right, JOE? Winners win and Losers punch club house doors with a bat.

Do you really think he pitched well enough to win? He gave up a fucking grand slam. How many runs does a team need to score before it's "run support"? Six? Ten?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Have to say, this sounds like hindsight commentary. if Ventura pulled Sale and the bullpen gave it up...the story likely would have been he dominated 7 innings and only had 100 pitches. Just sayin'...

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Hawk could absolutely manage this team as "well" as Ventura

As could JORR, Frank and Brick (Anyone who just went with "the book":would be as good or better)

Yeah, but every 100 pitch effort isn't the same. If you were watching- and I assume Ventura was- you could see how much trouble Sale had putting away the last man in the seventh. And it wasn't like they were clinging to a lead. The pen should have been able to get 6 outs with a 5-0 lead.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I agree with Joe. There is a difference between taking a pitcher out after 100 pitchers if he was (no pun intended) sailing along and taking him because he is showing fatigue. However, Don Cooper should have said something to Ventura, suggesting they need to take him out. That's what the pitching coach is suppose to be watching for.

The Ventura hire made no sense to me, except as a power play for K.Williams. They need a real manager if they are serious about building a championship team. Sadly, I think they will likely keep going cheap or with former players.

Yeah. Sale said Cooper asked him and he told him he was still okay. What pitcher is going to say, "I'm done, take me out."? Just about nobody. LeBron James doesn't pitch. That's the manager and/or pitching coach's call.

But what really bothers me about Ventura is that in the next game Sale may be cruising along with a 2-0 lead and- unlike Saturday night- look great finishing the seventh, and this time Ventura will take him out. It's like there's no rhyme or reason with this guy.

Again, I don't usually even talk about managers. I generally don't think they make any difference over the course of a season. Some shit will go their way, some won't. And I know managers have information that we as fans do not. He knows if guys in the pen are sore, etc. But Ventura just does stuff that anyone would consider strange. Pitching Leury Garcia in a tie game. Picking the Dodger game that Dunn would sit out where Dunn was 8 for 13 lifetime vs. the starter.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Like anything else you do or practice to do, it's all different when the lights are on and the only thing you can do to be a better manager, comedian, singer, trial lawyer, trader, etc is to prepare for the event and say whatever you want about how much of a great guy Robin is, he wasn't prepared for the job and this is his preparation time right now.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Take 3 of 4 early in the week here and get right back in contention. That should make spany happy.

I am not worried about Detroit

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It's incredibly disappointing that Ventura does not seem to have improved from day one.

He is still making rookie mistakes. He'll probably be fired in the offseason. He gets a nice parting gift though.

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guess you didn't hear his interview with Waddle and Silvy on Friday, because he pretty much agreed with Joe 100%

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And men have lost their reason.