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This is Hilary's you can see Russia from my house moment. Just dumb. She's lucky it happened in 2014 as opposed to 2016.


Except Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. Hillary did say her family was broke and had serious concerns about feeding themselves and putting Chelsea through school.


Yeah she didn't say that precisely, more like one can see Russia from Alaska, but I'm sure you get my point. I am tempted to think that Clinton's quotes are more insulting to one's intelligence.


I'm certainly not championing Sarah Palin. If I had to pick between her and Hillary Clinton for president, I'm going with Clinton. But you can see the difference in the way the media handled the situations and quotes. It's like there is a cottage industry defending Clinton while Palin was subjected to ridicule at every turn. Not that she didn't deserve it at times. But you can see how it works in that something Tina Fey said in an SNL parody has now actually been attributed to Palin.

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As TM noted, this is quintessential trolling.

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This is Hilary's you can see Russia from my house moment. Just dumb. She's lucky it happened in 2014 as opposed to 2016.


Except Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. Hillary did say her family was broke and had serious concerns about feeding themselves and putting Chelsea through school.


Yeah she didn't say that precisely, more like one can see Russia from Alaska, but I'm sure you get my point. I am tempted to think that Clinton's quotes are more insulting to one's intelligence.


I'm certainly not championing Sarah Palin. If I had to pick between her and Hillary Clinton for president, I'm going with Clinton. But you can see the difference in the way the media handled the situations and quotes. It's like there is a cottage industry defending Clinton while Palin was subjected to ridicule at every turn. Not that she didn't deserve it at times. But you can see how it works in that something Tina Fey said in an SNL parody has now actually been attributed to Palin.


Yes, for sure. Her team will work to make this and future missteps go away quickly, as if things like this were never said. And the usual suspects in the media establishment will be complicit. Though that is probably true of any high profile public figure like her.

I think this is her exacerbating what I presume to be part of a strategy to make her more relatable to the wider public. This is certainly not the only strategy, but part of the playbook. Nothing new - it's just dumb. I'd rather she acknowledge that she didn't have any hardships instead of insulting everyone's intelligence by claiming she was dead broke after her husband had been president for eight years. Everyone knows they'd be looking forward to lucrative speaking engagements and book deals once the white house tenure was up on top of the six figure salary he earned for eight years.

Not a big deal in the larger picture I guess, but just dumb and offensive.

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Yes, for sure. Her team will work to make this and future missteps go away quickly, as if things like this were never said. And the usual suspects in the media establishment will be complicit. Though that is probably true of any high profile public figure like her.

I think this is her exacerbating what I presume to be part of a strategy to make her more relatable to the wider public. This is certainly not the only strategy, but part of the playbook. Nothing new - it's just dumb. I'd rather she acknowledge that she didn't have any hardships instead of insulting everyone's intelligence by claiming she was dead broke after her husband had been president for eight years. Everyone knows they'd be looking forward to lucrative speaking engagements and book deals once the white house tenure was up on top of the six figure salary he earned for eight years.

Not a big deal in the larger picture I guess, but just dumb and offensive.


Yeah, for the most part anyone who is running for president is going to be pretty far removed from the average guy. To me, I find it offensive when they pretend to be the average guy. Some people actually like that though. I remember the outrage when Bush the First didn't know what a bar code scanner was or the price of a loaf of bread. I just thought, "why would he?"

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Yes, for sure. Her team will work to make this and future missteps go away quickly, as if things like this were never said. And the usual suspects in the media establishment will be complicit. Though that is probably true of any high profile public figure like her.

I think this is her exacerbating what I presume to be part of a strategy to make her more relatable to the wider public. This is certainly not the only strategy, but part of the playbook. Nothing new - it's just dumb. I'd rather she acknowledge that she didn't have any hardships instead of insulting everyone's intelligence by claiming she was dead broke after her husband had been president for eight years. Everyone knows they'd be looking forward to lucrative speaking engagements and book deals once the white house tenure was up on top of the six figure salary he earned for eight years.

Not a big deal in the larger picture I guess, but just dumb and offensive.


Yeah, for the most part anyone who is running for president is going to be pretty far removed from the average guy. To me, I find it offensive when they pretend to be the average guy. Some people actually like that though. I remember the outrage when Bush the First didn't know what a bar code scanner was or the price of a loaf of bread. I just thought, "why would he?"


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Yes, for sure. Her team will work to make this and future missteps go away quickly, as if things like this were never said. And the usual suspects in the media establishment will be complicit. Though that is probably true of any high profile public figure like her.

I think this is her exacerbating what I presume to be part of a strategy to make her more relatable to the wider public. This is certainly not the only strategy, but part of the playbook. Nothing new - it's just dumb. I'd rather she acknowledge that she didn't have any hardships instead of insulting everyone's intelligence by claiming she was dead broke after her husband had been president for eight years. Everyone knows they'd be looking forward to lucrative speaking engagements and book deals once the white house tenure was up on top of the six figure salary he earned for eight years.

Not a big deal in the larger picture I guess, but just dumb and offensive.


Yeah, for the most part anyone who is running for president is going to be pretty far removed from the average guy. To me, I find it offensive when they pretend to be the average guy. Some people actually like that though. I remember the outrage when Bush the First didn't know what a bar code scanner was or the price of a loaf of bread. I just thought, "why would he?"


Urban Legend and something that was pretty close to being made from whole cloth.


Exactly. And it stuck. There are still people who believe he was amazed by the technology. And I don't really want my president shopping for milk and bread.

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I don't really want my president shopping for milk and bread.


Nor do I need my president to be a guy I could have a beer with. Let me tell you about my drinking buddies, I wouldn't want any of them to be president.

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I don't really want my president shopping for milk and bread.


Nor do I need my president to be a guy I could have a beer with. Let me tell you about my drinking buddies, I wouldn't want any of them to be president.


Right. And I want my president to be from the Ivy League. I don't want Andrew Shepherd from the University of Wisconsin.

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Hillary Clinton didn't say anything wrong and comparing what she said with anything Palin has said is a bad idea. Future President Clinton isn't an unknown like Palin was and she isn't an idiot.

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It's your truth though.


Are you saying each person is entitled to his or her own truth? Because if so, I have a ten inch cock and I wrote "All Right Now" and "King Lear".


Why is it so hard for others to see the obvious problems that come with this philosophy?

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If another President "fucks us over",at least this time it's a woman. I really like Hillary. She is a no-nonsense plain talker. She doesn't seem phony or "prepped" by her people. I can also say the same for the guy WHO WILL be our next President,Chris Christie.

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She doesn't seem phony or "prepped" by her people. .


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She doesn't seem phony or "prepped" by her people. .


ohhhhh of course not........


I can't believe that was a serious post. Honestly.

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She doesn't seem phony or "prepped" by her people. .


ohhhhh of course not........


That's a couple of things I have always admired about her. Very genuine woman.

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It's your truth though.


Are you saying each person is entitled to his or her own truth? Because if so, I have a ten inch cock and I wrote "All Right Now" and "King Lear".


Why is it so hard for others to see the obvious problems that come with this philosophy?


Well, I understand that everyone has different viewpoints. But we have to agree upon what "truth" is or we can't really have a society. I once read a book about perception and the subjectivity of the way events may be perceived that used bats as an example. Bats have a completely different view of the world than humans or other species, thus their "truth" is necessarily different.

In this case, Nas knows the truth and he understands that Hillary Clinton claiming to be "dead broke" is moronic. He's just having fun on a message board. Wouldn't you agree?

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She once took a picture with my daughter. It sounds dumb but when the 1st Lady (at the time) poses with your little girl,it's hard to have a bad impression about her.

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It's your truth though.


Are you saying each person is entitled to his or her own truth? Because if so, I have a ten inch cock and I wrote "All Right Now" and "King Lear".


Why is it so hard for others to see the obvious problems that come with this philosophy?


Well, I understand that everyone has different viewpoints. But we have to agree upon what "truth" is or we can't really have a society. I once read a book about perception and the subjectivity of the way events may be perceived that used bats as an example. Bats have a completely different view of the world than humans or other species, thus their "truth" is necessarily different.

In this case, Nas knows the truth and he understands that Hillary Clinton claiming to be "dead broke" is moronic. He's just having fun on a message board. Wouldn't you agree?


I think our "society" is collapsing because that's what happens when people believe that we are all entitled to our own moral truths.

Nas was not trolling in the Hillary "dead broke" part of the thread.

He is now trolling when he alleges that she is a "very genuine" woman.

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She once took a picture with my daughter. It sounds dumb but when the 1st Lady (at the time) poses with your little girl,it's hard to have a bad impression about her.


People said the same thing about a guy that dressed as a clown and used his crawl space as a graveyard.

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She once took a picture with my daughter. It sounds dumb but when the 1st Lady (at the time) poses with your little girl,it's hard to have a bad impression about her.


People said the same thing about a guy that dressed as a clown and used his crawl space as a graveyard.


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She once took a picture with my daughter. It sounds dumb but when the 1st Lady (at the time) poses with your little girl,it's hard to have a bad impression about her.


People said the same thing about a guy that dressed as a clown and used his crawl space as a graveyard.


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She once took a picture with my daughter. It sounds dumb but when the 1st Lady (at the time) poses with your little girl,it's hard to have a bad impression about her.


People said the same thing about a guy that dressed as a clown and used his crawl space as a graveyard.


Hey,now you are on to something!

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would have been a far better president than obama


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In fact, Nas is so good at trolling about Hillary Clinton he's done it since 2006 and will do it until 2016!

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would have been a far better president than obama


Will be too.


Here we go again. Nas is set to support another champion of the status quo; will claim that she should be given a chance to demonstrate that she believes in the progressive values she embraces during her campaign, even though she has a long track record of undermining those values; will dramatically reverse his endorsement of her 10-14 months into her presidency--when it becomes clear that she is as reactionary as many members of the Republican party; and will attempt to save face by declaring that "there was never any evidence" to support the belief that Clinton would govern differently than she campaigned. To paraphrase a very wise man: The first time is tragedy, the second time is farce.

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As TM noted, this is quintessential trolling.

Bravo Sir!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I don't really want my president shopping for milk and bread.


Nor do I need my president to be a guy I could have a beer with. Let me tell you about my drinking buddies, I wouldn't want any of them to be president.

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It's your truth though.


Are you saying each person is entitled to his or her own truth? Because if so, I have a ten inch cock and I wrote "All Right Now" and "King Lear".


Why is it so hard for others to see the obvious problems that come with this philosophy?

One reason might be the advertising industry and media who have been shoving "it's your world, we all just live in it" down people's throats during their formative years.

This started when I was a kid and is still going on.


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One of the first softcore porn crushes was a chick with great tits in Meatballs 4 named Hillary. The name Hillary meant SEX to me. Then the Clinton's came along and ruined that.


She'll have to answer for that in the campaign if she wants my vote


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It's your truth though.


Are you saying each person is entitled to his or her own truth? Because if so, I have a ten inch cock and I wrote "All Right Now" and "King Lear".


Why is it so hard for others to see the obvious problems that come with this philosophy?

One reason might be the advertising industry and media who have been shoving "it's your world, we all just live in it" down people's throats during their formative years.

This started when I was a kid and is still going on.


too convenient

There are long held and respected economic theories that everyone doing their own thing results in a collective good.

Anyway, to paraphrase Woody Harrelson in True Detective, old men have been saying this generation has destroyed society since the beginning of society.

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