You're still a newspaper! Enjoy your last several years being published.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Our generation is awesome!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Why do you hate information?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

There is an app for information.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I don't really read the sun-times anymore especially in print. What they do today?

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They don't have enough pictures for him.

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I know it's on here somewhere, but I remember talking with someone (maybe RPB) about how from the time I was a freshie in HS up until about 2008, I always had a Sun Times. It was a MUST, or else the day wasn't right.

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They highlighted the athletic accomplishments of the high school otherwise known as the best academic institution in the state.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I thought there was no athletic accomplishments and they didn't recruit?

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I recall back in the 70s the daily sun-times was about an inch thick and weighed about five pounds. I remember as a kid thinking "this must be some serious shit in here." Now its like a pamplet you pick up at the natural foods co-op.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

You think they recruited those girls to play softball?

The last highlight before this was winning a state title in water polo...huge accomplishment.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Anytime they beat Fenwick at something, even if it's women's water polo, that's HUGE.

And yes, some of those girls were recruited to play softball.

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Everyone is recruited to a certain extent. I think the argument was something more than recruiting. If you are saying that academic standards were in any way compromised for girls softball success, you are incorrect.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Athletes with academic credentials that may be borderline are accepted at places like Ignatius, Fenwick, Montini and every private school you can think of.

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Dumb question here: in terms of information that is relevant only because it's constituted as "news," what is the incentive to keep on putting that information into hard copy print form? I realize not everyone is connected to the web 24/7 like my question may presume, but still I don't get why some news businesses insist on maintaining a printing press. Even if you happen to get great coverage and analysis of a major story that broke in time for it to get on the newsstand at 5 am, I guarantee that story is outdated by 6 am due to updates and other reports from connected sources.

I loved me some old fashioned paper reading as late as the mid 2000s, but I haven't considered buying/reading a paper in nearly 10 years. Again I realize not everyone has web access or skillz, but I'm just trying to wonder what from a business point of view keeps printing presses going in web advanced countries like ours.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

people still buy papers. I get three every morning.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Checked into hotel yesterday afternoon. Saw a stack of free USA today papers there. Never even considered it. All old news. The only thing I can see (which I do not do anymore) is maybe sitting with a sunday edition for an hour?

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I haven't sat down with mine yet today (to read 2 day old "news") but let me see if I can summarize...

Quinn is bad but Rauner is a crook
Rahm pissed off an alderman again
Preckwinkle is the savior.
Mary Mitchell is mad about race.
Steinberg things Obama sucks
Sneed had somebody's birthday and something about the Royal Family
The Ricketts family is evil.

Did I come pretty close?

Yes. Yes you did. Fuck.

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Because it's nowhere near the same reading the paper online. You only get the major stories or exactly what you're looking for. You don't read about the guy who hosted the Sitting In The Park radio show killing himself. Now maybe you don't care about that. I like to know a lot of shit. That's why I'm always in demand for cocktail parties.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

What? I've never asked you to attend one of my cocktail parties.

And they are all the rage.

I think the dumb answer is that they really have no other choice. The only value provided by newspapers are the distribution means. It's a choice of either go under or keep going and do what you can to still make some money on those who have it as a habit to read a paper newspaper.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Don't know about the Sun Times but the tribune digital edition that appears at 5am every morning on my tablet is the same as the paper copy. In some ways I miss the feel of actual paper but the tablet means no more late papers, no more looking for them in the snow, and the ability to read the paper outside on Sunday morning without the pages blowing all over the place. And it costs much less. I think in its heyday we were paying close to $200 per year for the trib delivered. Digital edition is something like $6.50 per quarter.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Is that different than what you see when you visit the website? Because I'm not suggesting all the same news that's in the hard copy isn't actually there. In fact, I'm sure it probably is. It's the way it's presented that's different. Clicking around is not the same as turning pages.

I read both papers cover to cover. There are often stories I wouldn't seek out, but they happen to be there when I turn the page. I'm not some Luddite. I can see the writing is on the wall for print editions. One thing I've noticed is that many of the stories in the Tribune and Sun-Times are now almost exactly the same word for word. And I'm not talking about stories off the wire either. Regular articles with a local byline. What that means to me is that these organizations are no longer using actual reporters, but rather just sending out inexperienced dopes to gangbang press conferences or accepting some pre-approved crap from publicists. The fall of the newspaper business goes deeper than the format change.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Here is what it looks like. You then click on the day you want. From there you select the section you want to read. You can scroll page to page. If you want to read a specific article you click on it. You can read the article in either "Original View" which is just like the paper view or "Dynamic" which makes it easier to scroll, etc.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

As for content, I agree 100%. They are just rags now. We had quit the tribune for a few years because it had gotten so bad and just was not worth the money. The only reason we get it now is because the cost is so low. And reading the digital edition is much preferable to clicking around website links.

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Oh, that's pretty good. It looks like the actual paper just in a digital format. I have no problem with that.

But as I said, the fall of the industry goes deeper than changes in the delivery methods. As someone who has read both of the big Chicago dailies everyday for over 35 years, I can tell you how much the quality has gone down. There are errors every day now. It's almost like there is no basic editor.

Pretty soon we're going to be getting most of our news from citizen journalists. A lot of us do already. For example, if we don't believe in climate change, we can shop for "news" that supports our position.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I don't like to get fecal matter on my ipad or tablet

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.