Correct.

But the fact remains that a consequence of this decision will be more unwanted pregnancies.

Correct.



Not necessarily.

It could also lead to women taking more control over what they do.

And who they choose to do it with.

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So people won't be responsible for themselves if they don't get their birth control for free and have someone else pay for it? It isn't like it costs 500 a month or something.

Im not optimistic on that. Hope I'm wrong.

Sure they're responsible. Its not blaming Hobby Lobby. Its just a result. If the decision went the other way, more people would probably get birth control, dont you think?

Not really.

How many were on birth control before the mandate? So now that someone else isn't paying for it they are going to stop and have unprotected sex and risk a pregnancy?

You think 100% of people who were getting something for free will now pay for it or change their behavior?

If so, we disagree

Women have started figuring out already that they have been getting the raw end of the birth control debate for too long a time.

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I was actually talking about people who were paying for it before the mandate who would then have gotten it for free.

Seems to be a lot of misinformation out there regarding this birth control/ hobby lobby issue.

It does not seem to be about birth control so much as emergency contraception Plan B, Ella, and two IUD devices which require medical procedure. The other 16 drugs in this class are covered that are used as birth control or off label uses for women's preventive and maintenance health.

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Do you think that people were getting this for free before yesterday?

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Stop saying the employees weren't paying for it. The employees pay for healthcare just like the company does.

That is unless Hobby Lobby is one of the few places that doesn't take anything out of the paycheck for health insurance.

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Cheaper

NO

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That wasn't the ruling though. Hobby Lobby may be nice enough to cover some kinds of birth control but why are we so willing to allow a corporation to dictate what is acceptable based on religious reasons?

I'm honestly surprised anyone is happy that this happened unless it's because you are anti-birth control and want to make it as difficult as possible.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
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OK, so if that's the case, what is the actual arguement here?

I see.

Interesting that all three female justices dissented.

That's a pretty stupid thing to say.

And of course Chus salutes it.

Seems like a slippery slope

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That the religious rights of the owners of a corporation should not be considered more important than the religious rights of an employee. Both pay for healthcare and one of them is effected much more than the other here.

Let's turn this around. Please explain why this was a good ruling or why it is good for anyone but those who want to push their religious agenda on others.

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I wonder how this will effect Mac's access tovbirth control?

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
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What a stupid thing to say. Of course, it came from SomeGuy.

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Waiting for the time when I can finally say
That this has all been wonderful, but now I'm on my way

This may be the worst part of the whole decision. They have to actively state that this ruling should not be applied to anything else. What makes this any different? Even they seem to know that this ruling is illogical since it shouldn't apply to anything else.

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Swing and a miss. Your BA is troubling.

It was a black and white statement without much to it. Broad strokes as well, not shockingly it appealed to your limited intellect and you responded with an emoticon.

Not good. Not good at all.

This strawman argument is beneath you. You clearly understand that this is about a group of hypocritically conservative, largely Catholic middle to older aged men have allowed their questionable religious beliefs (such as they are ) to trump the rights under law of lower income women. It is nothing more than judicial activism playing out to appease religious zealotry. It is nothing more than another chipping away at the fair & progressive policies that empowered many in this country over the last 50-70 years.

Just like the even more heinous union busting case decision that also came down...but is conveniently being ignored.

Kindly point to where the constitution gives you most rights you enjoy today. As noted countless times above you can't. Hell, this case is largely bs as I understand that Hobby Lobby actually provided most of the same insurance coverage until just before it was time to file their case & scream religious persecution (or as many here call it, playing the victim card). They didn't have a problem until yet another group of conservative religious zealots told them they (as the least restrictive type of legal actor here) should....for the greater right wing good.

Ask Scalia & his merry band of original intent con men where they get most of their logic and basis for finding heretofore imaginary constitutional standing for corporation's rights as a citizen or to permit the practice of their religious beliefs to the detriment of actual flesh and blood Americans. They can't, and therefore will long be known as a group of the worst Justices in American history.

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