Exactly. Shark, Garza, and Hammel are not HOFers and Russell, McKinney, and Straily clearly are.

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yeah that is exactly what he was saying.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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He's obviously implying it and sounding pretty dumb. What else would be the point of repeatedly saying the former Cub pitchers won't be HOFers? There's no merit to the statement unless it's being used in comparison to the players they acquired.

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He was in no way implying the players the Cubs got in return were HOFers. THat is just silly.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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RFDC, I don't even try to argue with the "respected members of the board" anymore.

Seriously, Who thinks like this? I am saying he did a good job with what he had to work with to get back top level prospects.

Simple enough for you?

Juiced, no use arguing about this. Most around here do not like the Plan. I continue to believe in it. How many scrap heap pitchers are they going to sign to one year deals and turn around into young prospects? Arrieta may actually be a steal. Obviously Shark brought back most of the value in this latest deal, but Hammel helped. I hope they are this good at catching lightning in a bottle wants they are ready to win.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

What if they don't get TV rights fees this offseason and have to resort to brokering subchannel time for five seasons? Now you're servicing debt on top of paying for half your airtime. Does this mean they can't start spending until 2020?

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Amen, brother!

Edit: what's Beane supposed to say? You got Jose Hernandez?

#HallOfFamer


@TheBlogfines: Gammons cont: "When Beane and Theo Epstein agreed on the deal, Beane told him, “you got Barry Larkin.”"

If the "Plan" works and they win a World Series then it's an excellent plan......I'll wager some liked Custer's plan also

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Well, outside of Peralta, and sometimes Adams and Yadi, no one on this team really slugs at the level their position traditionally would. I see the logic in what you're saying, but I think it would be horrible to add a bat at a spot where you already have a guy you just ponied up a decent contract for and is doing a decent enough job to move him to a spot where you have another guy who just got new paper and is doing a decent enough job so you can move him to a spot where he was last year but you thought, in your infinite wisdom, that the kid in the minors who has proven absolutely nothing just has to play there this year.

/bfib-level rant

TL;DR - Kolten Wong overrated.

I wanted to keep Samardzija but if they had to deal him, this seems like a good deal. Strailly can be real good


Russel is close to ready right? Should be in mlb next tear right?

The pitchers he traded away weren't shit. They were good major league pitchers. "Gold" is a huge stretch. Other than the Feldman trade which we can call "gold" the others haven't produced anything yet.

Oakland had him pegged for the 2015 ML roster.

this looks like another steal by the cubs. though beane is a pretty sharp guy so.....

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Nope, Billy Beane just got so stupid he traded Barry Larkin for two sub-.500 pitchers.

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With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Actually, Billy Beane is probably smart enough to not judge starting pitchers based on past winning records, but judge them based on how he thinks they can help his team.

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How much are they helping a team when they lose over half their starts?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

i saw this larkin comp and don't figure it at all. I watched some youtube stuff. russell has way more power. he'll strike out a lot though. Larkin was one of the best contact guys in the last 50 years.

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I think Billy Beane is the only ex-player in a GM position now, and yet he's considered to be one of the smartest guys in the game. Funny, that.

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As much as the rest of their team allows them to.

If Samardzija and Hammel keep their ~3 ERA for the remainder of the season - are you going to wonder why suddenly their W-L record beings to skyrocket?

Think about what has changed from April - July 4th, and then July 5th through the end of the season.

If you think long and hard, you might find an answer.

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Exciting to see JORR think the Cubs got the best of that trade.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Nope, Billy Beane just got so stupid he traded Barry Larkin for two sub-.500 pitchers.[/quote]
Actually, Billy Beane is probably smart enough to not judge starting pitchers based on past winning records, but judge them based on how he thinks they can help his team.[/quote]

How much are they helping a team when they lose over half their starts?[/quote]
As much as the rest of their team allows them to.

If Samardzija and Hammel keep their ~3 ERA for the remainder of the season - are you going to wonder why suddenly their W-L record beings to skyrocket?

Think about what has changed from April - July 4th, and then July 5th through the end of the season.

If you think long and hard, you might find an answer.[/quote]
100% Correct.

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