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^^^posts like this are why JORR and others justifiably make fun of the Cult of Theo. Every GM plans to win. Ironically, Theo is the first baseball GM I can remember who actually planned to lose for three straight years. And he was praised for it.

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The White Sox championship seems far away now does it not. They really have been a force since the rings were distributed. One lucky year where it all fell together. 1984 Cubs should have won it all too. Did not happen. Things fall apart. Sox had no plan after the championship was won. Cubs did not win then or in the Hendry disaster but they now have a plan to win in the near future and for many more years to come. I will take that and let the chips fall where they may.


The difference is the Sox did win it.

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Cub fans are stupid. Sox fans are smart. Got it. Sox won a World Series. Cubs have also. Sox are better because they won theirs before the Cubs in recent memory. OK.


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^^^posts like this are why JORR and others justifiably make fun of the Cult of Theo. Every GM plans to win. Ironically, Theo is the first baseball GM I can remember who actually planned to lose for three straight years. And he was praised for it.
The Sox have won how many more games than the Cubs and they are building a farm system?


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^^^posts like this are why JORR and others justifiably make fun of the Cult of Theo. Every GM plans to win. Ironically, Theo is the first baseball GM I can remember who actually planned to lose for three straight years. And he was praised for it.
The Sox have won how many more games than the Cubs and they are building a farm system?

Why do you keep bringing up the Sox? But since you asked, I don't think you'll find one Sox fan who says they love Hahn's plan if his teams average 95+ losses a season for three straight years. Every fan base can be overly optimistic at times but that's pretty much the crucial difference when people mock Cub fans for their optimism.

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^^^posts like this are why JORR and others justifiably make fun of the Cult of Theo. Every GM plans to win. Ironically, Theo is the first baseball GM I can remember who actually planned to lose for three straight years. And he was praised for it.
The Sox have won how many more games than the Cubs and they are building a farm system?

Why do you keep bringing up the Sox? But since you asked, I don't think you'll find one Sox fan who says they love Hahn's plan if his teams average 95+ losses a season for three straight years. Every fan base can be overly optimistic at times but that's pretty much the crucial difference when people mock Cub fans for their optimism.

I bring the Sox up because Sox fans cannot quit obsessing about the Cubs. Why do they matter to you or Sox fans in general? I do not give a fiddlers fuck about the Sox. Not a priority for me. But dream on for your next lucky plucky blind squirrel finds acorn World Series in 2035.


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But dream on for your next lucky plucky blind squirrel finds acorn World Series in 2035.


:lol:

Hey, would it matter to you if the Cubs win the series as a sort of one-off, unexpected kind of a thing, or after years of progressive growth that culminates in a championship? Does it make a difference? Honest question. Of course you'd want to contend every year, but the question of experiencing the win is different.

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But dream on for your next lucky plucky blind squirrel finds acorn World Series in 2035.


:lol:

Hey, would it matter to you if the Cubs win the series as a sort of one-off, unexpected kind of a thing, or after years of progressive growth that culminates in a championship? Does it make a difference? Honest question. Of course you'd want to contend every year, but the question of experiencing the win is different.

I will take either at this juncture. 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I bring the Sox up because Sox fans cannot quit obsessing about the Cubs.

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Anyways, there's still some minor ammunition lying around:
Barney
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Schierholtz
Sweeney
Coughlan
Valbuena
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Bonafacio (I'm guessing he's a August waiver trade).

Nothing that will rock the boat. I could see Barney and Schierholtz flipped while the others stay for the sake of fielding a lineup. Four games back from AZ for worst record. I feel like we're going to go streaking! The wrong way :|


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I bring the Sox up because Sox fans cannot quit obsessing about the Cubs.

:lol:

I actually like and watch the White Sox just do not care. Just a baseball fan.


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Anyways, there's still some minor ammunition lying around:
Barney
Ruggiano
Schierholtz
Sweeney
Coughlan
Valbuena
Shithead
Bonafacio (I'm guessing he's a August waiver trade).

Nothing that will rock the boat. I could see Barney and Schierholtz flipped while the others stay for the sake of fielding a lineup. Four games back from AZ for worst record. I feel like we're going to go streaking! The wrong way :|

What a pile of shit. Hard to believe half these guys are on a MLB roster. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Your reaction to his post in your signature is a good example of it.


No, it's a good example of the irrational exuberance of Cub fans which suddenly becomes a "joke" when pointed out by Sox fans. And even if IMU really was kidding, was the tweet describing an entire homegrown lineup serious? Or was that a joke too?


Hey Stupid, the fact that the Cubs have a deep enough farm system to even come up with a homegrown lineup is amazing. Try putting together a homegrown lineup with the Sox and you will really have something to laugh about.

The Cubs only need a third of that group to become good big league players and they can fill the rest of the lineup with free agents. That is something to get excited about. Theo said this will be the last year they are sellers, so look for them to add some free agents this off season to take some of the pressure off these rookies that will be coming up.


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Your reaction to his post in your signature is a good example of it.


No, it's a good example of the irrational exuberance of Cub fans which suddenly becomes a "joke" when pointed out by Sox fans. And even if IMU really was kidding, was the tweet describing an entire homegrown lineup serious? Or was that a joke too?


Hey Stupid, the fact that the Cubs have a deep enough farm system to even come up with a homegrown lineup is amazing. Try putting together a homegrown lineup with the Sox and you will really have something to laugh about.

The Cubs only need a third of that group to become good big league players and they can fill the rest of the lineup with free agents. That is something to get excited about. Theo said this will be the last year they are sellers, so look for them to add some free agents this off season to take some of the pressure off these rookies that will be coming up.

The Cubs are coming tra la tra la. Harry used to say that 20 years ago. Gonna happen.


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Your reaction to his post in your signature is a good example of it.


No, it's a good example of the irrational exuberance of Cub fans which suddenly becomes a "joke" when pointed out by Sox fans. And even if IMU really was kidding, was the tweet describing an entire homegrown lineup serious? Or was that a joke too?

It was clearly a joke from the start. I am not sure what is so hard about that to understand.

There is no doubt irrational exuberance at times by Cub fans.

But you and others take anything that is said and exaggerate it into something that it is not.

Fan A: Theo made a good trade, I like that he is carrying out his plan.

Sox Fans: Oh you are an idiot Cub fan that thinks Theo is the only GM who has ever had a plan and who ever follows a plan.


But it's really never like that. It's more like this:

Cub fans: THEO just traded Shark for Barry Larkin!!!!!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Sox fans: :roll: :roll: Most Cub fans are ridiculous.

RPB: :evil:

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Hey Stupid, the fact that the Cubs have a deep enough farm system to even come up with a homegrown lineup is amazing.


Hey, Dumbfuck, they don't. You're just fantasizing that they do. And it makes you look ridiculous.

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Your reaction to his post in your signature is a good example of it.


No, it's a good example of the irrational exuberance of Cub fans which suddenly becomes a "joke" when pointed out by Sox fans. And even if IMU really was kidding, was the tweet describing an entire homegrown lineup serious? Or was that a joke too?


Hey Stupid, the fact that the Cubs have a deep enough farm system to even come up with a homegrown lineup is amazing. Try putting together a homegrown lineup with the Sox and you will really have something to laugh about.

The Cubs only need a third of that group to become good big league players and they can fill the rest of the lineup with free agents. That is something to get excited about. Theo said this will be the last year they are sellers, so look for them to add some free agents this off season to take some of the pressure off these rookies that will be coming up.

The Cubs are coming tra la tra la. Harry used to say that 20 years ago. Gonna happen.


Actually, it was "The Cardinals are coming, tra la, tra la." And he said it in 1969 when they were coming after the Cubs. See, Harry knew the Cubs would swoon the way the always do. He just had it a little wrong. It was the Mets that were coming, tra la, tra la.

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I love how JORR put that post of mine as his signature. He is truly out of touch with what Cubs fans think about the position of our organization.

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I love how JORR put that post of mine as his signature. He is truly out of touch with what Cubs fans think about the position of our organization.


Is that tweet serious? Or is it a joke? Does that guy really think the Cubs will have a 100% homegrown lineup? Ever?

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Is that tweet serious? Or is it a joke? Does that guy really think the Cubs will have a 100% homegrown lineup? Ever?

Ask whoever tweeted it.

I don't even know who that is - I didn't post the tweet to this board.

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Is that tweet serious? Or is it a joke? Does that guy really think the Cubs will have a 100% homegrown lineup? Ever?

Ask whoever tweeted it.

I don't even know who that is - I didn't post the tweet to this board.


Right you answered it. We can all see that. I'm not sure when Cub fans are kidding or when they're "optimistic".

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Well, don't group us into one category called "Cubs fans," as there are a wide variety of sub-types on this board alone. That is a start.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Is that tweet serious? Or is it a joke? Does that guy really think the Cubs will have a 100% homegrown lineup? Ever?

Ask whoever tweeted it.

I don't even know who that is - I didn't post the tweet to this board.


Right you answered it. We can all see that. I'm not sure when Cub fans are kidding or when they're "optimistic".


Luke is a writer for Bleacher Nation... covers the Cubs minor league system. That's also not a 100% homegrown lineup, since it is only 6 positions. Well, and Rizzo would be 1B and he isn't homegrown.


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They won't field a home grown lineup but it's nice the system is so diversified to hedge against prospects busting.


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Would Russell even be considered home-grown? 2 minor league years with the A's, one with the Cubs? (if he comes up sometime in 2015)

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Would Russell even be considered home-grown? 2 minor league years with the A's, one with the Cubs? (if he comes up sometime in 2015)


I literally couldn't care any less, ha. It doesn't matter. Let's get back to talking about the Cubs, and not feeding the trolls.


Two guys I think the Cubs can seriously target right now: CarGo and Stanton. Would obviously take one hell of a package to pull something like this off, but... Baez? And we know the Marlins want to move Stanton (leaked Astros docs), and the Rockies seem ok moving CarGo (or maybe even Tulo). Could also see the Cubs offering one of their SSs for some of the Marlins young pitching too.


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Well, and Rizzo would be 1B and he isn't homegrown.


I suppose not technically, but since Theo followed him around stalking him like Charles Grodin stalked Cybil Shepherd in The Heartbreak Kid I'll say he counts.

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I suppose not technically, but since Theo followed him around stalking him like Charles Grodin stalked Cybil Shepherd in The Heartbreak Kid I'll say he counts.


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Wonder why Billy Beane didn't ask for this Arrieta guy. I mean, besides the 4.75 career ERA and 1.4 career WHIP.


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Russel lines out in first at bat.

Trade is a bust.

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