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I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.

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I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

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I'm willing to give him another year or two. This team has dealt with a ton of injuries to key players and still looks like a vastly improved club from last year. They should be decent next year with some better health.

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good dolphin wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

:lol:

Im going to make a mult called dood golfin and respond to your White Sox optimism as you do the cubs.


Brilliant...


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I'm willing to give him another year or two. This team has dealt with a ton of injuries to key players and still looks like a vastly improved club from last year. They should be decent next year with some better health.

He had a productive off season but he just missed a couple spots (bullpen mostly)


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good dolphin wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

^Totally different JORR. :lol:


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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

:lol:

Im going to make a mult called dood golfin and respond to your White Sox optimism as you do the cubs.


Brilliant...

:lol:

Yeah can you imagine a Cub fan saying Theo was brilliant while spending time in last place this year and currently being 42-47.

Dolphin would break his neck getting to that thread to mock them.

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I'm willing to give him another year or two. This team has dealt with a ton of injuries to key players and still looks like a vastly improved club from last year. They should be decent next year with some better health.

He had a productive off season but he just missed a couple spots (bullpen mostly)


I think the bullpen would be horseshit even if they were pitching, but I'm not sure it's fair to hang it on Hahn when his top two bullpen guys are out for the season.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I'm willing to give him another year or two. This team has dealt with a ton of injuries to key players and still looks like a vastly improved club from last year. They should be decent next year with some better health.

He had a productive off season but he just missed a couple spots (bullpen mostly)

Right. I wouldn't say it was tremendous. But the Abreu signing, Eaton trade, and Quintana extension made it overall an impressive offseason IMO.

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Except that Theo has spent just about his entire tenure as Cubs President in last place, RFDC.

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His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive
This. Going into 2013, he didn't have a whole lot to work with. The team was pretty well set and there wasn't going to be a big free agent signing. The moves he has made over the last year for the big league club and the minors have been very good.

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Kirkwood wrote:
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I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

^Totally different JORR. :lol:



Of course it's different. Eaton is playing major league baseball. And doing it fairly well. Beyond that, the guy they traded for him is 0-8. If he were striking out 200 times at AA and people were saying it was brilliant, then it would be the same thing.

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I'm willing to give him another year or two. This team has dealt with a ton of injuries to key players and still looks like a vastly improved club from last year. They should be decent next year with some better health.
They better be a playoff team next year.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

^Totally different JORR. :lol:



Of course it's different. Eaton is playing major league baseball. And doing it fairly well. Beyond that, the guy they traded for him is 0-8. If he were striking out 200 times at AA and people were saying it was brilliant, then it would be the same thing.

Who did they trade for him?

I thought it was Addison Reed?

And it's different because you treat the White Sox and their fans with Kid gloves and attack the Cubs and their fans with brass knuckles.


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Who did they trade for him?

I thought it was Addison Reed?


Santiago.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I'm willing to give him another year or two. This team has dealt with a ton of injuries to key players and still looks like a vastly improved club from last year. They should be decent next year with some better health.

He had a productive off season but he just missed a couple spots (bullpen mostly)


I think the bullpen would be horseshit even if they were pitching, but I'm not sure it's fair to hang it on Hahn when his top two bullpen guys are out for the season.

Well, that's where the minor league system comes in and thats on KW, I suppose

It seems like every winning team has young pitchers, many times starters in the minors, contributing in the bullpen


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rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

:lol:

Im going to make a mult called dood golfin and respond to your White Sox optimism as you do the cubs.


Brilliant...


What do they get for Santiago today if he were still on the Sox?

That IS a brilliant move. That is not really open for debate, although you wanted to without even knowing who was traded in the deal.

Hahn essentially got a cost controlled starting CF for a guy who is looking like a AAAA level starter.

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good dolphin wrote:
His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive
This. Going into 2013, he didn't have a whole lot to work with. The team was pretty well set and there wasn't going to be a big free agent signing. The moves he has made over the last year for the big league club and the minors have been very good.

Very very wrong. This is astoundingly wrong


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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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I think his vision was to take every single last penny JR would allow him and throw it at Abreu. Then there was nothing else left. Either that or he is an idiot.


The results of the Eaton trade have been nothing short of brilliant.

His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive

:lol:

Im going to make a mult called dood golfin and respond to your White Sox optimism as you do the cubs.


Brilliant...


What do they get for Santiago today if he were still on the Sox?

That IS a brilliant move. That is not really open for debate, although you wanted to without even knowing who was traded in the deal.

Hahn essentially got a cost controlled starting CF for a guy who is looking like a AAAA level starter.

Last year you touted Santiago as a great young LHS. I guess that was wrong.

Santiago's story is not done but it doesnt matter. You would pounce on any Cub fan calling any trade Brilliant. That's the point.

You're still trying to justify Cashner for Rizzo as a SD winner


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Kirkwood wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive
This. Going into 2013, he didn't have a whole lot to work with. The team was pretty well set and there wasn't going to be a big free agent signing. The moves he has made over the last year for the big league club and the minors have been very good.
Very very wrong. This is astoundingly wrong
Prove it.

Sale and Quintana extension, Abreu, Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton. All very good moves.

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I think there is a little too much Eaton love around here.

He is hitting .269. He has an average OBP. He strikes out a little too much.

And on top of it his style of play makes him an injury waiting to happen.

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I think there is a little too much Eaton love around here.
There probably is. I'm not one of those over the top Eaton lovers, but you can't tell me he doesn't give the Sox lineup an entirely different (better) look when he is in there at the top of the order. He plays a very good CF.

And as dolphin mentioned, the guy they gave up for Eaton is 0-8 this year and has already been sent to the minors once. I think its pretty clear that the Sox are better with Eaton they would be with Santiago right now. And if the move makes your team better, its been a good one despite what Kirkwood may chime in with.

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good dolphin wrote:
His moves over the 1.5 years of being a GM has been pretty impressive
This. Going into 2013, he didn't have a whole lot to work with. The team was pretty well set and there wasn't going to be a big free agent signing. The moves he has made over the last year for the big league club and the minors have been very good.
Very very wrong. This is astoundingly wrong
Prove it.

Sale and Quintana extension, Abreu, Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton. All very good moves.

So so so so wrong. Giving extensions to players the previous GM found is impressive!?!?!? Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeew boy


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So so so so wrong.
Prove it.

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I think there is a little too much Eaton love around here.

He is hitting .269. He has an average OBP. He strikes out a little too much.

And on top of it his style of play makes him an injury waiting to happen.



I think those are pretty good numbers for a plus fielding centerfielder. It's not 1998 anymore with second basemen slugging 45 homers at will. And he still has room to improve.

If Almora comes up and does the same exact things I will support him.

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Sale and Quintana extension, Abreu, Avi Garcia, Adam Eaton. All very good moves.

So so so so wrong. Giving extensions to players the previous GM found is impressive!?!?!? Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeew boy

That specific extension? Of course it is. How can you even deny that?

Kirkwood's off the realist list. They're dropping like flies!

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And on top of it his style of play makes him an injury waiting to happen.
It's the favorite past time of Cubbie Nation: Predicting injuries for White Sox players! :lol:

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:lol: JORR and Brick bringing up the Cubs in my post about Eaton.

Cub fans posting about the Cubs in the Sox forum because they cannot help themselves.

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And on top of it his style of play makes him an injury waiting to happen.
It's the favorite past time of Cubbie Nation: Predicting injuries for White Sox players! :lol:

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Kirkwood's off the realist list. They're dropping like flies!

JORR, Rick and Dolphin have all chosen trolling over realism today.

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