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Hussra

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:27 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

they just give him a ladies portion up there.

took a second

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spmack

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:32 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

spmack wrote:

Can someone just put a damn Cubs hat on Bernstein already? My goodness!

Ironically all the YELLING and SPELLING. OUT. WORDS. and freaking out over Theo will cease if Theo succeeds and wins a World Series at which point it will be time for quiet reflection

If it means the Cubs winning, then fine. But, it's almost ridiculous the way Bernsie fawns over Theo.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:40 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

8675309 wrote:

I sense the Cubs addition of Addison Russell to their already great system has caused even the most obsessed Sox fan to feel like their teams future is on the bunk below the Cubs.

PAGING RPB!!!!!

That's about 3 out of 30

You act like it's the other way around

Realists
NSD
Hank
Big Chicagoan
Myself, Robert Chief
Darkside
UMN
Peoria Matt
BadRogue
RFDC
Kirkwood
JimmyPasta for chrissakes
BigFan
Spanky
Dr Ken
Mr Reason
312player
Phil McCraken (R.I.P.)

Cubs Rule
DennisTheo'sMan
Scooter
Jenny

The whole survey is biased as all of those now know they are being watched and so are tempering their enthusiasm so as not to be mocked after the unavoidable failure

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:41 pm

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Tad Queasy wrote:

Is Dan going to these great lengths to praise Theo if his last name is not Epstein?

This reminds me of 1988 when my roommate at college, who was Greek, suddenly became VERY "politically active" when Dukakis won the Democratic nomination for President.

Daaaaaaaaamn, you are old as fuck.

I thought you were in your 20s

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:43 pm

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"this trade is great for baseball."

:lol:

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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:44 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

"this trade is great for baseball."

:lol:

This entire thing is so comical.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:44 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

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and their top prospects were the likes of Chris Archer, Brett Jackson, Trey McNutt, Hak-Ju Lee, Josh Vitters, Chris Carpenter, Matt Szczur, Hayden Simpson, Rafael Dolis and Brandon Guyer.

I realize you may be biased, but do you really not remember many of those guys who are now dismissed like pieces of shit being discussed in the same terms as Bryant, Baez, and Russell are currently? One of the Cub "realists" compared Brett Jackson to Mike Trout, for God's sake!

Exaggeration. Jackson maybe. But, only Cubs touted like these guys recently would be Patterson, Pie, Prior, those types. I wasn't checking minor league updates daily on Brandon Guyer. Now, the Cubs have 3 guys like that and maybe 4 with Schwarber starting with 3.000 OPSs.

I would say Jackson, Vitters, Archer, McNutt, and Lee were all viewed as elite prospects by many Cub fans.

Let's not forget DONNIE VEAL who was being trotted out by one national baseball expert as the next big thing

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:44 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

"this trade is great for baseball."

:lol:

What could that possibly mean?

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lipidquadcab

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:45 pm

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For someone who likes to beat the drum of championships are the only thing that matters, Bernstein sure is getting awfully excited about a team having "one of the greatest farm systems ever".

Oh, and that they might spend a lot of money on guys in a few years.

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redskingreg

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:46 pm

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lipidquadcab wrote:

I'm cracking up while listening. You can hear Dan flossing with Theo's ball hairs.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:46 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

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and their top prospects were the likes of Chris Archer, Brett Jackson, Trey McNutt, Hak-Ju Lee, Josh Vitters, Chris Carpenter, Matt Szczur, Hayden Simpson, Rafael Dolis and Brandon Guyer.

Archer is a real good MLB pitcher. Jackson was kind of touted. That's about it.

Vitters was questioned since day one because he was drafted high. I heard some good things about McNutt.

Simpson? Cmon

Remember when Cubs fans wouldn't trade Epstien for Mc Nutt? I believe he also was on the cover of the Sun Times once.

I shouldn't know the names of middling prospects, yet all of these mentioned are familiar names

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good dolphin

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:48 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

There's a difference between elite prospects and promising. Jackson and Vitters were borderline elite but I don't think they were "can't miss" type guys.

I'd put Patterson, Pie, Prior, Bryant, Baez, and (from what I've read to this point of Russell) Russell as "can't miss"-level prospects. Cubs have had 1 or 2 of those types per decade at best. Now they have 3, possibly 4, plus Alcantara (who should be considered prime prospect) at once. You can be optimistic that things work out in better fashion now than when all the eggs are in Corey Patterson's basket.

No, the correct answer is

They will all be busts and if one isnt, the Cubs will find some way to fuck him up, because the Cubs are the Cubs. You should quit following them.

That is the only correct answer.

Now THAT is a realist perspective

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:49 pm

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SirTinkleButton wrote:

denisdman wrote:

What Epstein has sold me on is that they have improved their scouting and player development. Meaning, they are drafting better and then developing better than what was done before he got here.

Even the guys at Baseball America and Prospectus said the way they scouted has changed. They admitted that guys like Pie and Patterson were too "toolsy" and wouldn't be ranked as high in their new scouting.

I could have been an A student if I only had the answers in front of me for every test.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:50 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I have also been accused of being too toolsy.

This is a fun argument. However, I'm on vacation this week and, unlike Baby McNown, I don't plan to spend much of it here. Taking the kids to see Godzilla (the real one on my island, not the movie) in a few minutes.

Carry on the good fight, Cub Realists! I look forward to reading it on the beach later this week.

Watch out for closures after MWRD opened the locks

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:52 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

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and their top prospects were the likes of Chris Archer, Brett Jackson, Trey McNutt, Hak-Ju Lee, Josh Vitters, Chris Carpenter, Matt Szczur, Hayden Simpson, Rafael Dolis and Brandon Guyer.

Trading any player for a GM is dumb.

You know the names because you are interested in Cubs baseball and Cubs fans

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Rod

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:01 pm

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:04 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I cant believe the A team was trying to promote their players like that. Shameless.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:06 pm

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So, just so were clear, I posted the Realist vs Optimists and it was 85/15 in favor of realists.

There has been no valid argument against any names on my list.

Like Ive said for years, its a small percentage of Cub fans that some people like to apply to the whole base. Stereotyping at its most basic level.

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Hatchetman

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:08 pm

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oh jeez. casper the idiot. "most hall of famers start as shortstops...."

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Hussra

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:29 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

oh jeez. casper the idiot. "most hall of famers start as shortstops...."

"They can have guys move around, play centerfield one game, shortstop the next!"
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Zizou

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:31 pm

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Who are these people unable to understand what Theo is doing? Toddlers, dementia patients, and the institutionally committed? What insufferable ball-washing that "column" was.

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redskingreg

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:33 pm

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Zizou wrote:

Who are these people unable to understand what Theo is doing? Toddlers, dementia patients, and the institutionally committed? What insufferable ball-washing that "column" was.

People on Twitter, yo.

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denisdman

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:33 pm

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Hatchetman wrote:

oh jeez. casper the idiot. "most hall of famers start as shortstops...."

My favorite Casper, from Eastbound and Down.

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pittmike

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:35 pm

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He should be embarrassed by that leading question to Len. Are they the best farm system in history. Len almost spit his coffee then politely continued. What a hand job.

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KDdidit

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:42 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Fuck that one, mine was better. Was on clearance at Daytona too :lol:

KDdidit wrote:

Guess it's time to break out the "Hail Szczur" shirt I got at a Daytona Cubs game years ago.

Fuck it, selfies flippin the bird!

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Tad Queasy

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:44 pm

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rogers park bryan wrote:

Tad Queasy wrote:

Daaaaaaaaamn, you are old as fuck.

I turned 45 last month, so, thanks, that really makes me feel better.

rogers park bryan wrote:

I thought you were in your 20s

I would never have guessed that. Interesting to find out how people perceive you.

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rogers park bryan

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:49 pm

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Tad Queasy wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Tad Queasy wrote:

Daaaaaaaaamn, you are old as fuck.

I turned 45 last month, so, thanks, that really makes me feel better.

rogers park bryan wrote:

I thought you were in your 20s

I would never have guessed that. Interesting to find out how people perceive you.

Actually, I figured you were around 29

And dont worry, 45 is the new 41

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Zizou

Post subject: Re: 7/7: 7

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:50 pm

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Dan idolizes Theo. Like Theo is his version of the uber sports Jew. Ivy League-educated, connected, monied, handsome, powerful and a sports team puppet master.

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rogers park bryan

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:56 pm

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Zizou wrote:

Dan idolizes Theo. Like Theo is his version of the uber sports nut. Ivy League-educated, connected, monied, handsome, powerful and a sports team puppet master.

I get the feeling if you asked Dan, "How come Theo didnt become a brain surgeon?"

The response would be RIGHT?!?!?!

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Zizou

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:04 pm

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It's pathetic. Normal people idolize the players, not the goddamn executives. It's like Dan wants sports to go from enjoying the performances of the athletes to the appreciation of watching decisions being made by people in suits.

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