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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Yeah, because they have no idea. They're just talking shit. The same people who thought Bogaerts was a sure Rookie of the Year.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Cub fans didn't invent minor league analysis


So basically don't think anyone is ever better than anyone else

I don't know why you focus your hate for projections of non major leaguers on Cubs fans


Do you d that with college basketball and football? Do you scream that Johnny Manziel might be bad?

I believe he knows he hit a homer. I don't believe he can judge it as better than a Davidson homer.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

No, but they seem to put a lot of stock in it. It's always hope. We could have had this same discussion 10 years ago about Patterson or Pie and guys you were sure they were better than when they weren't.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Even Pie wasn't as bad as people make it seem. I don't remember me conversation about him that didn't include a comparison to Patterson and how he could easily bust out

can we get back to fantasizing about JR dying?

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

I was in love with Pie even when he was in the low minors. I fall in love with supposed "5 tool outfielders." I know it.

Which is why I'm glad none of the Cubs top prospects are currently outfielders.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Not going to tell you the guy is a workout machine, but he has a treadmill he uses and he eats pretty well, considering the circumstances of being in a buffet line 50% of the year at Games (cell and UC) and then having the dessert cart roll across your face on each of those nights.

Plus he doesnt smoke the cigars. Never lights them. just sucks on them (make your own jokes)

In short, he has his apple a day, with some oatmeal and granola, he will be around for another solid 15-20 years.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

if that is true, he may indeed outlast me.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Preach on Jorr they won't listen to me. I am waiting for Hee Sop Choy.

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That isn't the point. It isn't that he or Patterson went on to 10 year MLB careers. Why can't you Cub fans see how many times you put your 10000% hope in some prospect? Granted Theo has a plan and by having more prospects then you increase chances. But to think all these guys will be your saviors I would suggest you speak to a lot of major league teams that have been drafting high forever.

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For the zillionth time no one here thinks anyone in the minors is the Cubs savior.

You guys can keep exaggerating this stuff over and over but it does not make it true.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Somebody as in MLB.com
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2014/#list=prospects
What the hell do they know anyway. Not like they do this for a living. I think I will take couch potato JOE ORR's prediction that he will suck

Not saying he is a sure thing, but his POTENTIAL of becoming an all star it a lot better then Davidson. With prospects that is all you really can go by is potential and that is ranked by the scouts that do this for a living.

Thats the fucking point. Glad you could figure it out yourself. Now go educate Sox subdivision your epiphany.

Prospects are just that. It's great to have all these kids that are doing great, but the odds of them all doing great is slim at best.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Cmon RFDC we get along really well. Do you not believe that besides Bernsie guys here do not think the '27 Yankees are coming up as soon as Super 2 is passed? I call BS. It is ok. I swear it is the thing Cub fans (and I generalize do).

Some other Sox fans can back me up or slap me down but I have never given a shit about a Sox minor leaguer. I/we? are shoe me when the get to the cell. Maybe it is modern times with more info but in my life I have never seen so much minor league fandom than this recent Cub stuff.

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+1

We should all just give up hope on the prospects and cheer for overpriced free agents.

You are not typical (and I am not referencing the board). Some Cub fans think they will have 8 fielding positions of HOF'ers.

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But a team doesn't need them all to be great.

Maybe just one is "great"...a couple others are good...and your organization is already ten thousand times better off. Maybe you preemptively can figure out which few will only turn out average, or worse, and flip them for something better.

It is unlikely that with the Cubs having 5 of the Top 50 prospects (3 in the top 10) that all 5 will completely flame out.

You look at past Top 10 prospect lists and there are very few complete busts.

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IMU you are right. MY only issue (resentment) (jealousy) is that everyone treats them ALL cant miss HOF'ers

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Don't put me in that category. I am on record saying only a 3rd of them will probably make it in the majors.

Just one multipe all-star and two "David Dejesus" types aka solid major leaguers would be awesome. That's my optimistic pie-in-the-sky goal.

Where I really need Theo/Jed/Jason to shine is identify who is that bust and can you sell high on the guy for MLB talent.

Are you drinking tonight because this is really hard to sort through?

The majority of Cub fans here are pretty objective regarding things and no one thinks the 27 Yankees are coming up.

I am happy they have a plan in place that finally decided to really rebuild and not just talk about rebuilding while passing out Soriano contracts.

Will the plan work? Who knows. But I am content to let them have some time to see. It very well may blow up in their face. But hopefully it will result in a team that can contend for the playoffs most years and maybe eventually get a World Series.

Many of us enjoy keeping up with the work of their prospects in the minors. I have never understood why this bothers so many Sox fans.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

I'm a bit confused.

If you are only hoping/expecting marginal results, why go through 3 seasons(and maybe more) of being one of the worst teams in the league and applaud it? You should be able to get a great player and a few good ones without losing 300 games in 3 seasons. And I really am not even trying to troll here. What am I missing?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

This.

Nobody is being overly optimistic with these Cub kids. Nobody is saying '27 Yankees. You will, however, see more tempered, realistic predictions of being the 90's Braves.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I believe one person said that and I do not know of any other Cub fan here that agrees with him.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Not even by Plan but maybe injury you are smart.

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Unless we have a Maddux,Smoltz,Glavine hidden in our farm system. I don't see this happening.

I don't think that is very optimistic even. Pretty rational. I can't imagine Bryant not being a repeat All-Star at this point...I cannot accept him being a bust. His high strikeout rate is acceptable because of his fantastic walk rate...and holy shit can he mash. You don't do what he has done, without hiccups, in the high minors and then completely bust. They just can't teach his talent.

However...I'd hope (HOPE) that Baez can become at least a Pedro Alvarez type...I'd think his average would be a little better than Alvarez' even. And Alcantara...if he can put up a ~.750 OPS at second base? Love it, combined with his speed. And Russell...he is now the Cubs' second best prospect...I hope that turns into at least a 'good' middle infielder. Brandon Phillips at short, with probably less power? Again, it is a hope.

But I picture this Cubs offense with Castro and Rizzo as a base...add whatever you want to call Bryant (me? Future star), and then a guy like Pedro Alvarez and a guy like Brandon Phillips. I'm scared to comp Arismendy Alcantara...I think this guy might be pretty special for a middle infielder. The "other prospect" might end up being one of the better ones.

Obviously, I'm somewhat optimistic. But I think it is somewhat reasonable based on the production we've seen from each so far coupled with the consensus opinions of tens of baseball writers and scouts.

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