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good dolphin may be looking at his first loss this year.
He purposely lost this one so he can do better in threads 3 weeks from now.
Frank just saved the Sox Subdivision! :lol:

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do trailer parks have "subdivisions?" :lol:
Fake Sox Fan Alert!

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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good dolphin may be looking at his first loss this year.
He purposely lost this one so he can do better in threads 3 weeks from now.

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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do trailer parks have "subdivisions?" :lol:
Fake Sox Fan Alert!

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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good dolphin may be looking at his first loss this year.
He purposely lost this one so he can do better in threads 3 weeks from now.

Alright...so this post was pretty fucking hilarious.

:lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Did you want to revisit your thought that Samardzija is a #4 on any team but the Cubs?

Was that waaaaay wrong or did Theo just get 2 top prospects and an MLB Starting pitcher for a #4 guy?


What is he on the A's?

You keep wanting to reposition the argument in terms of trades because it favors you. Meanwhile, it was not discussed.

Remember when the Garza trade was a steal?

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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I listed 4 great signings but they were disqualified because WHITESOXRULE


Like I said, you're gonna have to start being at least semi honest or this isnt gonna work out between us


As bigfan has pointed out innumerable times in reference to Don Cooper, those are low cost lottery ticket signings that every team makes in spring training...like the Baker signing (oops!). Penny stocks. A good team signs those players to work at AAA until an injury results. They are starters for the Cubs.

Now, on to the examples of targeted guys signed to impact the team that worked.

Hell, on Epstien's first day with the Cubs he pretty much issued a mea culpa on his recent FA work.

More ridiculousness. The guys named are starters on every MLB team.

And I love you trying to celebrate Baker. As if hitting at 80% on so called penny stocks is something to be ashamed of. Keep digging.?


Nothing to be ashamed of but nothing to be overly proud of.

The truth is, the Edwin Jackson signing is far more impactful in terms of its effect on just about every aspect of this team than Maholm, Hammel and Feldman combined. You know this but you chose to once again steer from it because it is so damaging to your position.

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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good dolphin wrote:
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Did you want to revisit your thought that Samardzija is a #4 on any team but the Cubs?

Was that waaaaay wrong or did Theo just get 2 top prospects and an MLB Starting pitcher for a #4 guy?


What is he on the A's?

You keep wanting to reposition the argument in terms of trades because it favors you. Meanwhile, it was not discussed.

Remember when the Garza trade was a steal?

There is no positioning. Just pointing out how wrong and biased you are when discussing the Cubs and your obsession, Theo Epstein

Garza is doing great things for the Rangers.

31 out of 30 GM's (remember the Padres fired that guy for giving up Rizzo) would say the Cubs won the deal.

Ill bump this in a couple years when this, your latest nonsense, is (likely) proven wrong


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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Garza is doing great things for the Rangers.
Um....

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Garza is doing great things for the Rangers.

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Garza is doing great things for the Rangers.
Um....

Um?

Garza was traded to the Rangers. They got 2 months of him. That's the point. Now they have nothing and they gave up 4 prospects. Obviously the Rangers lost the deal.


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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Garza is doing great things for the Rangers.
Um....

Um?

Garza was traded to the Rangers. They got 2 months of him. That's the point. Now they have nothing and they gave up 4 prospects. Obviously the Rangers lost the deal.


The Rangers made the playoffs which was the whole point of the trade...and for what? The throw in now looks like the best player of that amazing group. I don't think that Rangers GM is quite losing the sleep he was in spring training

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Trades are a completely different category for obvious reasons.

The undeniable truth is, when given the money to make an impact FA signing, Epstien has not had a good record for the past half decade.

You know this, of course, or else you would not have attempted to change the argument to trades or you would have pointed to the great signings over the past 5 years


Past five years?

Didn't Theo sign Crawford and Beckett when he was still in Boston?

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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good dolphin wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Garza is doing great things for the Rangers.
Um....

Um?

Garza was traded to the Rangers. They got 2 months of him. That's the point. Now they have nothing and they gave up 4 prospects. Obviously the Rangers lost the deal.


The Rangers made the playoffs which was the whole point of the trade...and for what? The throw in now looks like the best player of that amazing group. I don't think that Rangers GM is quite losing the sleep he was in spring training

Good call. Its less Bad now.


The point of the trade was winning the World Series but they most certainly did NOT make the playoffs. And the main part of the deal, C. J. Edwards is still the main guy.

Throw two more on the "dolphin is wrong" pile

And what did they get out of Garza?

4-5 with a 440 era.


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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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The Rangers made the playoffs which was the whole point of the trade...and for what? The throw in now looks like the best player of that amazing group. I don't think that Rangers GM is quite losing the sleep he was in spring training

Controversial stance here but trading 4 prospects for 13 games started of:
4W-5L
84.1 IP
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4.38 ERA
-0.1 WAR

To put it in subdivision terms Hector Noesi has started 13 games with the following:
3W-5L
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1.41 WHIP
4.13 ERA
0.7 WAR

Daniels paid 4 prospects for a pitcher who gave him dime a dozen production. What's your next stupid thought?


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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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Is Dolphin an optimist, realist, or some other category?

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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rogers park bryan wrote:
[Good call. Its less Bad now.


The point of the trade was winning the World Series but they most certainly did NOT make the playoffs. And the main part of the deal, C. J. Edwards is still the main guy.

Throw two more on the "dolphin is wrong" pile

And what did they get out of Garza?

4-5 with a 440 era.


CJ Edwards was NEVER the main guy. I think you made an argument last year that Ramirez was the main guy. I'm sure when they all prove as bust outs you will claim that salary relief was the main guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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The Rangers made the playoffs which was the whole point of the trade...and for what? The throw in now looks like the best player of that amazing group. I don't think that Rangers GM is quite losing the sleep he was in spring training

Controversial stance here but trading 4 prospects for 13 games started of:
4W-5L
84.1 IP
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4.38 ERA
-0.1 WAR

To put it in subdivision terms Hector Noesi has started 13 games with the following:
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4.13 ERA
0.7 WAR

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only proves the genius of Hahn

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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but again, none of the cult of Theo will stick to the argument because they know how it will end

They know of the dim track record of the last five years on guys that mattered yet they will still continue to believe that they will be just fine when Theo has to sign a front line starter.

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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good dolphin wrote:
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[Good call. Its less Bad now.


The point of the trade was winning the World Series but they most certainly did NOT make the playoffs. And the main part of the deal, C. J. Edwards is still the main guy.

Throw two more on the "dolphin is wrong" pile

And what did they get out of Garza?

4-5 with a 440 era.


CJ Edwards was NEVER the main guy. I think you made an argument last year that Ramirez was the main guy. I'm sure when they all prove as bust outs you will claim that salary relief was the main guy.

Another wrong one. In fact I believe we've had this Edwards being the main guy argument before (SPOILER ALERT: You lost)


Edwards' rise to key piece in Garza trade an unlikely tale
Drafted in 48th round, pitching prospect 'excited' to be in Cubs system
July 24, 2013|David Haugh's In the Wake of the News


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New Cubs prospect C.J. Edwards
New Cubs prospect C.J. Edwards (HANDOUT)
Prosperity greeted C.J. Edwards the day after the Cubs traded for the promising Class A pitcher and former 48th-round draft pick at the center of the Matt Garza deal.

Literally.

Edwards returned Tuesday to his hometown of Prosperity, S.C. — population 1,182 — to celebrate with relatives and friends before leaving Wednesday for Daytona, Fla., where the 1,464th player selected in the 2011 amateur draft hopes to begin his improbable ascent up the Cubs' minor league system.





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but again, none of the cult of Theo will stick to the argument because they know how it will end

They know of the dim track record of the last five years on guys that mattered yet they will still continue to believe that they will be just fine when Theo has to sign a front line starter.

This is like watching Rick Ankiel


you are melting hard


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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but again, none of the cult of Theo will stick to the argument because they know how it will end

They know of the dim track record of the last five years on guys that mattered yet they will still continue to believe that they will be just fine when Theo has to sign a front line starter.

This is like watching Rick Ankiel


you are melting hard


keep avoiding RPBrick

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good dolphin wrote:
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but again, none of the cult of Theo will stick to the argument because they know how it will end

They know of the dim track record of the last five years on guys that mattered yet they will still continue to believe that they will be just fine when Theo has to sign a front line starter.

This is like watching Rick Ankiel


you are melting hard


keep avoiding RPBrick

Keep making factually incorrect statements and then running away

And keep acting like you werent wrong about Samardzija, Garza, the Rangers, and pretty much everything you've written today


BTW, I wanna save this for later but you are saying the guys that were used in trades "didnt matter"

Just gonna leave that here for a while.


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I applaud the subdivision for excellent execution in this thread. Time and time again we see threads shift away from examining their own pile of shit onto the North side version.

When you hear there is no obsession this thread is example numero uno it exists.


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I applaud the subdivision for excellent execution in this thread. Time and time again we see threads shift away from examining their own pile of shit onto the North side version.

When you hear there is no obsession this thread is example numero uno it exists.


In a quick scan of threads, Dolphin seems to have posted about nothing but the Cubs for his last few hundred posts.

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I've edited the title to properly reflect the discussion. I wouldn't want a possible new boardmember who happened to be a Sox fan to mistakenly think this thread was actually discussing the construction of the Sox roster.


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