Yeah, that's not what I was saying. Im talking in general about building a team to win.

I agree with what you say there

If you're a Cub fan that will be disappointed after a World Series win, I cant help you

Like the Bulls under John Paxson, interestingly enough.

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Right, but that may not be a great philosophy for a team that hasn't won in 108 years. I think if the Cubs need to dump highly valued prospects at any point to put them in a better position to win a World Series they have to do it. You don't really get that many chances unless you're the Yankees. The Nationals had their chance to win it and they made a decision based on their assumed "future dominance". Now they'll probably never have a better chance to win than they did the season they shut down Strasburg with arguably the best team in the game. But who knows? Maybe they'll win it this year and that will be forgotten.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

So wait...since when did Boilermaker Rick become a fan of Theo's intentional losing?

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

No.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

So you have done a 180 on all of this?

For a long time you have been saying that the Sox over the last 25 years have a good record of this and are in contention for the division often...

So you have changed your tune on all this?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

No.

The discussion of regular season success was always secondary. It was often used because people were putting down the "only 1 title and then they sucked".

I'm not saying regular season success is meaningless.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Winning a WORLD SERIES, something the Cubs haven't done since before World War I, would be a failure?

And you dared to quote something I said yesterday and call it dumb? This is, without question, in the team photo for stupidest thing ever said by anybody (mults included) in the history of this board.

Its so stupid, in fact, that its going to become my signature so people can see it for a long, long time.

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ah I see.

It is overrated when it fits your purpose.

But when it helps you in a Cubs/Sox pissing match then it isn't meaningless

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

What does this have to do with the Cubs and Sox? The Cubs haven't been consistently good or won a title.

Are you honestly saying that I am wrong that winning a title is more important than making the playoffs a lot? Do you share the sentiment from IMU that the White Sox 2005 season was a "failure"?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

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Kenny Williams fell for the banana in the tailpipe

Excellent counterpoint.

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I do not agree with that thought.

Just funny how the narrative changes to fit your purpose depending on the topic.

Being in the mix consistently is overrated. That is one to remember.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

The narrative didn't change! The Sox WON a title!

I've been consistent. I believe my statement was something like "I wouldn't trade the A's or Rays success for the White Sox success of the past 10 years".

But hey, if you want to hold against me the crazy concept that winning a title is the best thing you can do then go ahead.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I wish I had a job where I can suck at for 3-5 years and my excuse would be: "It's OK boss,because I'm not trying".

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

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Kenny Williams fell for the banana in the tailpipe

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

cheap version

I still have my Anthony Thomas and Brian Urlacher rookie year bobbleheads from Mc Donalds

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

After all the trading yesterday it's pretty clear Theo flawlessly read the market and extracted an absurb amount of value.

Dumping Shark and Hammel at their peak onto Beane led him to scamble to shore up the A's pitching as the regression monster showed up. Hammel has absolutely shat the bed and Shark's performance has done nothing to justify a top-10 prospect batting .300 in AA, 19-year old batting .303 in A and a 25-year old pitcher once considered a ROY.

Add picking up Bonnie for free in spring training and packaging him with the forgettable J. Russell in exchange for future Evan Gattis.

Not sure I've ever seen a run of magnificence like Theo has been on.

Totally agree and I'd love to hear how that isn't the case.
I'm even more impressed with Theo & Co. if it's true that the Rays turned down a straight up deal of Addison Russell for David Price before letting the Cubs get him and then the Rays settling for pile of blah.

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Kenny Williams fell for the banana in the tailpipe

You should wish and pray that Addison Russell is ever as good as Austin Jackson.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Rays did not get Austin Jackson in the deal.

I know, but he's acting like Russell was a bigger prize than anyone in this deal. Who knows if he's better than either Adames or Franklin?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

That wasn't your original "point". Which point are you now making, the first one (which was untenable) or the second one (which is a little hard to prove at this point)?

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Either you are a Jedi and I fought it off or you just had a stroke.


Think about your response to your fuck up of facts and try again.

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Kenny Williams fell for the banana in the tailpipe

Are you telling me what my point was? Obviously, Tampa could have had Jackson. They didn't need the third team if they had wanted to go that route.

See RPB, this is why Cub fans get stereotyped as goofs.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

You were not real clear on your point at first.

Your point is: Prospects are just prospects and Russell would be lucky to be as good Austin Jackson right?

But the thing is prospects have value. Right now, Russell, McKinney and Straily is a better deal than getting Austin Jackson or Franklin

anyone reading your thoughts and my thoughts on this page can judge for themselves who the goof is, friend.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

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Kenny Williams fell for the banana in the tailpipe