They might make the playoffs but having those three guys is not near enough. But they have more.

Just a weird way to say that.

Its not hard at all, Frank

My only concern with Eaton and Garcia is the balls out way they play. Its awesome but dangerous. Bryce Harper is the same way

I think Edwin Jackson was a case where they had this money to spend on Sanchez and felt like they should spend it on someone.

Im not sure how much you can criticize the Lackey deal anymore (it was a terrible deal at first) after he was a huge part of them winning a World Series last year.

Anyway, I think Theo is ok with free agency. He had some decent signings too. I think he's better at finding value types than the HUGE deals

Its actually kinda funny, imo.

He does a good JORR, dolphin, you impression

Yes, Ive noticed that too. Like the last 8 or 9 years

Wow. Its like Hahn is reading this board and hates Sox fans

The problem is, and maybe you missed it on your board vacation, but Kirkwood changed the title of this thread to "Theo obsession" and complained that this thread has turned into a mess. I don't really care about how you or Kirkwood feel about my posts. You've mad it perfectly clear what you think of mine so there is no reason for me to try and change for you. If you want to think I'm a troll who just gets enjoyment by making fun of the Cubs go ahead. Just don't start intentionally trolling and then get mad when your troll thread is a mess.

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Why so serious?

If only he had written a manual for system wide standards on development of players that is absolutely unrecognizable in the way those players play.

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I don't think it's a weird way to say it. Obviously they have more and obviously it will take a lot more than that but I'm saying that's a pretty good start.

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You can have an Ace, a good slugger and another decent pitcher and still be really bad.

Is this your new thing? My how the mighty have fallen/

Have you read the book?

Because if you havent then your statement would be the definition of ignorance.

I wanted to know his plan. Simply asked the same questions being asked of the Cubs plan. Luckily I found his vision through other outlets.


Hahn's kid and Bernstein's kid should become BFF's.

[/quote]Wrong. Pitchers taken in the top 5 overall never bust out.[/quote]

Really... Seriously.... take a look just since 2000... recognize these ALL STARS?

2000
#2 Adam Johnson
#4 Mike Stodolka
#5 Justin Wayne
2001
#3 Dewon Brazelton
2002
#1 Bryan Bullington
#3 Chris Gruler
#4 Adam Loewen
#5 Clint Everts
2003
#3 Kyle Sleeth
#4 Tim Stauffer 3.8 career WAR
2004
#3 Philip Humber 0.9
#4 Jeff Niemann 4.1
#5 Mark Rogers 1.1
2005
no pitchers taken in top 5
2006
#1 Luke Hochevar 2.5
#2 Greg Reynolds -1.6
#4 Brad Lincoln 0.5
2007
#4 Daniel Moskos 0.2
2008
#4 Brian Matusz 1.6
2009
#4 Matt Hobgood

Most of the guys taken after 2010 are still on their way up so we will see

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You have a really good 1-2 combination and a great slugger. Of course they can still be bad, but it would take Hahn doing a pretty horrible job for the next couple years

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Way to go!

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Let me also say that Hahn's vision pretty much sucks so far. I don't like it so far and they better be in the 85+ wins range next year.

There are some good individual moves but it is time to put up or shut up.

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I just would have included a few more assets like Eaton and Garcia.

It may be a personal thing because I see that and remember how bad the Cubs were with Sosa, a legit ace and a good #2

Paulino and a bunch of unknowns in the bullpen looks awful. If the bullpen had been able to nail down even half the games they have blown the Sox would be within striking distance of the Tigers.

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I look at Eaton and Garcia as unknowns still at the MLB level, although I'm pretty optimistic both will be decent. I know there's more to it than the three guys I mentioned but I think their contracts give Hahn a lot of operating room even if Garcia and/or Eaton don't end up very good.

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BRICK in fairness to Hahn he lost Avi for the year and his bullpen backbone was crushed without Lidstrom and Jones. He missed on Paulino and the failure of the top prospect Johnson really hurt.He should have done a Theo and signed two guys (Feldman/Baker) (Hammel/MacDonald) to have a fall back for Paulino. I doubt he makes that mistake again. One a vet with something to prove and a TJ comeback guy...just a TJ guy was a BIG riskand he got burned.

I would also like to see them get a Hispanic speaking coach and a coach who can teach ..if Dave McKay could teach Soriano to play the outfield someone can help the Sox in the same manner.

85+ is a goal but coining DJ there is "work to do"... I think he can do it maybe not next year but I can see him doing it.

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Next year is basically it for me as a White Sox fan if they aren't good. Spend more money and win more games. Otherwise, I'll be back in 2025.

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At least you'll be happy to know that Rodon's first pitching coach with the Winston Salenm Dash is named J.R. Perdew.

I have been going to Sox games since I was a kid ...my first glove was a Nellie Fox and my first year with season tickets was in 1970.... my REAL dream is a Sox -Cubs World Series and it goes to the seventh game and into extra innings ...bith teams run out of players so Bud let's them bring in Wilbur Wood to face Ernie Banks ...and I fall asleep listening on the radio......

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A bullpen might help next year. Whoa

If you have stayed with Purdue football, you can stay with the Sox.

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Sounds like Tim Anderson is a potential all star per Bernstein. We know Radon is.

There is your answer. Hahn's vision is to draft great players and sign great players.

Any more questions?

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