The Pitching Situation Is In Worse Shape Today

lipidquadcab · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:18 pm

That's fine.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:20 pm

lipidquadcab wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

lipidquadcab wrote:

So yeah, I think it's fair to criticize putting all your eggs in the free agency/aquire them via trade baskets.

That's um, not true?

In Theo's first draft after picking Almora he went pitcher with the next 7 picks. In the 1st 10 rounds he went with 9 pitchers and 3 position players.

In Theo's second draft after picking Bryant he went pitcher with 6 of the next 7 picks. In the 1st 10 rounds he went with 7 pitchers and 3 position players.

In Theo's third draft after picking Schwarber he went pitcher with 8 of the next 9 picks. In the 1st 10 rounds he went with 8 pitches and 2 position players.

Now you can criticize him and "superstar" McLeod for the pitching not developing quick enough but the focus IS there.

Let's not forget trading for Vizcaino, Hendricks, Edwards, Black or Ramirez.

Thank you.

Thank you for pointing out that they've failed to use their top pick on a pitcher yet. Also, thank you for pointing out that they've traded for a bunch of good pitchers...because that absolutely wasn't the point I made in prior post.

I've heard criticism of the draft regarding a lack of pitching at the top from Cub fans here. Not sure why it's so controversial when someone else might suggest it hasn't been a priority for them.

You're not being controversial. Just showing you that they haven't ignored drafting pitching at all.

Example A:

Quote:

The Cubs have been consistent picking the best player left on their board. Last year they had pitcher Mark Appel as their first to choose on the board before Bryant. When Houston took Appel, the Cubs stayed true to the board by taking Bryant.

They sort of got lucky so far with this one. But clearly they aren't ignoring pitching. Not sure what else you'd like them to do.

Now this does raise questions whether they suck at drafting pitching though. Totally plausible.

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:22 pm

Why are Cubs fans even fighting it now? Massive success is on the horizon and has already started. Just enjoy the next decade of laughing at jealous Sox and Cardinals fans!

I just hope the 2030 White Sox can be the 2015-2025 Chicago Cubs!

denisdman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:28 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Why are Cubs fans even fighting it now? Massive success is on the horizon and has already started. Just enjoy the next decade of laughing at jealous Sox and Cardinals fans!

I just hope the 2030 White Sox can be the 2015-2025 Chicago Cubs!

Because GD opened another Cubs thread.

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:33 pm

denisdman wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Why are Cubs fans even fighting it now? Massive success is on the horizon and has already started. Just enjoy the next decade of laughing at jealous Sox and Cardinals fans!

I just hope the 2030 White Sox can be the 2015-2025 Chicago Cubs!

Because GD opened another Cubs thread.

Why do you care though? You've got the 90s Braves here!

denisdman · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:37 pm

I could probably ask you why you care so much as to make over 30,000 posts on CSFMB. "It's just what we do."

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82152

rogers park bryan wrote:

They do have some pitching prospects. I know they are stronger on offense but people act as if they've outlawed pitching in the Cub minor leagues

Hendricks
Edwards
Johnson

sucks
middle reliever and currently injured
sucks

pittmike · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:51 pm

denisdman wrote:

I could probably ask you why you care so much as to make over 30,000 posts on CSFMB. "It's just what we do."

badrogue17 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:58 pm

the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:20 pm

lipidquadcab wrote:

Thank you for pointing out that they've failed to use their top pick on a pitcher yet.

Good point, as drafting a pitcher with your first pick is a surefire way to win.

I'd stay to help you make your point, but I have to get back to watching my tape of Mark Prior towel drills.

leashyourkids · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:23 pm

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

I agree, but I don't really see much of it from Cubs fans unless it's a response. I'm sure the Sox fans would dispute that, but I think it's pretty accurate.

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:24 pm

leashyourkids wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

I agree, but I don't really see much of it from Cubs fans unless it's a response. I'm sure the Sox fans would dispute that, but I think it's pretty accurate.

Have you missed the opinion of many that the 2005 Sox season was either lucky or a failure?

leashyourkids · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:34 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

I agree, but I don't really see much of it from Cubs fans unless it's a response. I'm sure the Sox fans would dispute that, but I think it's pretty accurate.

Have you missed the opinion of many that the 2005 Sox season was either lucky or a failure?

I've seen it as a response to Sox comments revolving around the failure that is the Cubs.

Come on Rick. Look at all the Cubs threads started by Sox fans. Not ALL Sox fans but a select few. I don't think Dolphin even believes half the shit he posts, and he wears his Cubs trolling as a badge of honor. That's fine, but don't shy away from it.

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:38 pm

leashyourkids wrote:

I've seen it as a response to Sox comments revolving around the failure that is the Cubs.

Well, I can go forward with discussions bashing Kenny, Jerry, AJ, Ozzie, and pretty much anyone who mattered. Cubs fans mentioned Sale's coming career ending injury more than Scorehead mentioned his caveman diet.

leashyourkids wrote:

Come on Rick. Look at all the Cubs threads started by Sox fans. Not ALL Sox fans but a select few. I don't think Dolphin even believes half the shit he posts, and he wears his Cubs trolling as a badge of honor. That's fine, but don't shy away from it.

This season it does seem to favor the Sox fans. However, they are a pretty sensitive bunch. I can't even say anything bad about Billy Beane without me getting jumped on!

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

leashyourkids wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

I agree, but I don't really see much of it from Cubs fans unless it's a response. I'm sure the Sox fans would dispute that, but I think it's pretty accurate.

100% true

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:17 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

I agree, but I don't really see much of it from Cubs fans unless it's a response. I'm sure the Sox fans would dispute that, but I think it's pretty accurate.

100% true

Care to share your thoughts on the 2005 Chicago White Sox? :lol:

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

leashyourkids wrote:

badrogue17 wrote:

:lol: the amount of one upmanship, sniping , your team sucks no your team sucks from the fans of 2 teams who between them have one World Series title in a combined 190 years plus of baseball blows my mind

I agree, but I don't really see much of it from Cubs fans unless it's a response. I'm sure the Sox fans would dispute that, but I think it's pretty accurate.

100% true

Care to share your thoughts on the 2005 Chicago White Sox? :lol:

Didnt they lose to porn addict Paul Byrd in the playoffs?

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:23 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Didnt they lose to porn addict Paul Byrd in the playoffs?

Contreras got a quality start though. That is all that matters.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Btw, saying KW had some gambles work out is not the same as calling the team lucky.

Ive never denied they were a great team. Not 100 Win great...but great

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:36 pm

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1221459#p1221459

It was more than "some gambles".

pittmike · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:37 pm

Regardless of the regular season to not call the 2005 playoff run great is baseball retarded and Cub fan trolling.

IMU · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:42 pm

pittmike wrote:

Regardless of the regular season to not call the 2005 playoff run in baseball retarded and Cub fan trolling.

Are you missing several words?

pittmike · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:43 pm

immessedup17 wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Regardless of the regular season to not call the 2005 playoff run in baseball retarded and Cub fan trolling.

Are you missing several words?

Yeah thanks I will fix.

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:46 pm

Also, can I nominate "Sox won't make the playoff for five years" as something that is worse than pretty much anything good dolphin has said? How about that Abreu will soon be playing in Japan?

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1221459#p1221459

It was more than "some gambles".

Never said anything negative about teams performance. KW hit on every gamble, which is rarw

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

pittmike wrote:

Regardless of the regular season to not call the 2005 playoff run great is baseball retarded and Cub fan trolling.

Red Sox werent trying and hadnt gotten Ortiz from STL yet

Angels lost their Ace before playoffs

Hou ran out of HGH

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:49 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1221459#p1221459

It was more than "some gambles".

Never said anything negative about teams performance. KW hit on every gamble, which is rarw

rogers park bryan wrote:

Please dont make things up because I rightfully pointed out that Kenny Williams gambled his ass off in 05 and the gambles paid off.

I guess we just have different opinions on "gambled his ass off".

I'm going to go gamble by playing the lottery tonight! Hopefully I'm skillful enough to win!

leashyourkids · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:50 pm

In all honesty, RPB is probably the most diplomatic arguer on this board. You would be hard-pressed to find a topic where he isn't considering the other side's POV. Obviously there are nut job Cub fans AND Sox fans who agree with everything their organization does, but the White Sox fans also do everything they can to incite the Cub crazies.

As a side note, I hate RPB, just to be clear.

lipidquadcab · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:54 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Regardless of the regular season to not call the 2005 playoff run great is baseball retarded and Cub fan trolling.

Red Sox werent trying and hadnt gotten Ortiz from STL yet

That's some good pull right there. :lol:

Brick · **Posted:** Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:54 pm

leashyourkids wrote:

In all honesty, RPB is probably the most diplomatic arguer on this board. You would be hard-pressed to find a topic where he isn't considering the other side's POV. Obviously there are nut job Cub fans AND Sox fans who agree with everything their organization does, but the White Sox fans also do everything they can to incite the Cub crazies.

Sounds like you've made your mind up already.

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