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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:11 pm 
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My biggest beef with forte is he's not a great RUNNING BACK...ok blocker...great receiver ...gets a lot of cheap screen yards or dumpoff passes on 3rd and forever when defense is playing back...but he don't find the endzone...


He's averaged 4+ yards per carry every year of his career. They were putting 8 and 9 guys in the box because our offense sucked and he still got the job done. He hasn't gotten the chance to run behind a good offensive line yet. There are seasons where he accounted for 40% of the offense. Many of you all don't like him because he doesn't run people over. What he does is effective and probably better for his body in the long run.




He averaged less than 4 ypc his first 2 Seasons.


once a back hits 30 I don't want him. unless he's a real hall of famer ..like walter or A.P. which Forte clearly isn't.

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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After 700 touches in his first 2 years I'm surprised that he is alive and even more impressed by his production the past 4 years (4.6 ypc). Considering he doesn't take many big hits and his size there is likely a lot of tread on those tires. You can get 2 more really good/great seasons out of him and at least 2 more average/good after that. He'll play at least 10 years.

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.


Rush? Will Aaron Rodgers die before the season starts?

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.


Rush? Will Aaron Rodgers die before the season starts?

No. They will balance it out having the best QB in the league and a top 5 RB. Maybe check what Lacy did last season.

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.


Rush? Will Aaron Rodgers die before the season starts?

No. They will balance it out having the best QB in the league and a top 5 RB. Maybe check what Lacy did last season.


Are you saying Green Bay is going to have 7000 yards of offense? Aaron is going to have is 5000 yards passing. Very few reasons to ever take the ball out of his hands.

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.


Rush? Will Aaron Rodgers die before the season starts?

No. They will balance it out having the best QB in the league and a top 5 RB. Maybe check what Lacy did last season.


Are you saying Green Bay is going to have 7000 yards of offense? Aaron is going to have is 5000 yards passing. Very few reasons to ever take the ball out of his hands.

Less exposure to hits is a great reason. Lacy is really good. He will be utilized. Just like Ahman Green and to a lesser extent Ryan Stark was used even with a great QB. Cory Dillon in '04 too.

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.
How much do you care to wager on this?

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.
How much do you care to wager on this?


This just got interesting!

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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There is no way in hell that Lacy gets close to 1700 yards.

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.
How much do you care to wager on this?



I'll take some of that action FF.

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Lacy will rush for 1700 yards this season.
How much do you care to wager on this?



I'll take some of that action FF.


Same here. I've got $1 per yard that says Lacy gains less than 1700 yards.

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Scorehead, why would FF make a bet with you? No way you would honor the deal if you lost.

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 Post subject: Re: This is the year
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Just doing the math, even if he improved he'd still need almost 400 carries to get that. No way he carries more than 300 times.

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That would mean Rodgers has only 3000 yards passing or the Packers break all kinds of records.

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It's possible he won't get 1700.

He will rush for more yards than Forte this year.

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That would mean Rodgers has only 3000 yards passing or the Packers break all kinds of records.

What are you talking about? The Packers are going to easily exceed 5000 offensive yards this season.

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It's possible he won't get 1700.

He will rush for more yards than Forte this year.


Friendly wager?

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It's possible he won't get 1700.

He will rush for more yards than Forte this year.


Friendly wager?

Sure.

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Hate to just jump in one post and out but I will. For all the respect Rodgers and the Pack deserve offensively that can't last forever. Even if due to the injury last year they dropped some. The NFL has a way of making sure you do not last forever as the best. Look at the Pats. For as great as Bellechick and Brady have been when was their last SB win?

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Hate to just jump in one post and out but I will. For all the respect Rodgers and the Pack deserve offensively that can't last forever. Even if due to the injury last year they dropped some. The NFL has a way of making sure you do not last forever as the best. Look at the Pats. For as great as Bellechick and Brady have been when was their last SB win?

Not sure what your point is here. Nobody is saying Super Bowl here. Green Bay will basically always make the playoffs as long as they have Rodgers. Just like Peyton and Brady pretty much always get in.

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Hate to just jump in one post and out but I will. For all the respect Rodgers and the Pack deserve offensively that can't last forever. Even if due to the injury last year they dropped some. The NFL has a way of making sure you do not last forever as the best. Look at the Pats. For as great as Bellechick and Brady have been when was their last SB win?

Not sure what your point is here. Nobody is saying Super Bowl here. Green Bay will basically always make the playoffs as long as they have Rodgers. Just like Peyton and Brady pretty much always get in.



Sorry not clear. I am playing future percentages not past performance. If Bears up and coming especially on offense which I believe... Then Pack will be worse and not make playoffs. Just my belief Bears beat them twice.

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Hate to just jump in one post and out but I will. For all the respect Rodgers and the Pack deserve offensively that can't last forever. Even if due to the injury last year they dropped some. The NFL has a way of making sure you do not last forever as the best. Look at the Pats. For as great as Bellechick and Brady have been when was their last SB win?

Not sure what your point is here. Nobody is saying Super Bowl here. Green Bay will basically always make the playoffs as long as they have Rodgers. Just like Peyton and Brady pretty much always get in.



Sorry not clear. I am playing future percentages not past performance. If Bears up and coming especially on offense which I believe... Then Pack will be worse and not make playoffs. Just my belief Bears beat them twice.

Anything could happen I guess. It's rare for QBs as good as Rodgers to miss the playoffs. That's all.

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FF my post said I respect him. The aging/falling apart/bad luck is those around him and defense in my mind.

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Sorry not clear. I am playing future percentages not past performance. If Bears up and coming especially on offense which I believe... Then Pack will be worse and not make playoffs. Just my belief Bears beat them twice.

Worse than 8-7-1? I'll take the over, comfortably.
Aaron Rodgers 30
Jay Cutler 31

It's not like the Packers sat on their hands getting worse. They just build their roster in quieter way without pizzaz.

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It's possible he won't get 1700.

He will rush for more yards than Forte this year.
That is a lot different than 1700.

Forte will have more yards from scrimmage than Lacy.

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Scorehead, why would FF make a bet with you? No way you would honor the deal if you lost.

I am quite sure Frank would honor his word.


Does Scorehead have a record of not paying bets?

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Scorehead, why would FF make a bet with you? No way you would honor the deal if you lost.

I am quite sure Frank would honor his word.


Does Scorehead have a record of not paying bets?

I am pretty sure in the past he has not followed through on an avatar/signature bet.

So no way I would trust to him to actually pay up real money.

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