Ok, now I feel a little guilty.

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If Love is still playing pickup ball there is just as much, if not more risk. Guys play all summer in random gyms across the US. This is the first person in 22 years to get seriously hurt playing for team USA.

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And that's my point. They insinuated that there was no chance that he could get hurt because this is essentially an exhibition. The timing if Love was hurt would have been terrible. The notion that he was afraid to face their questions gives them far too much credit. A lot of injuries occur when you are going half speed. There is a risk of injury even in this environment. They were making a point that you can't get hurt which is false. Obviously you can.

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Particularly in light of the fact that he actually can.

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I grew up watching summer leagues in Chicago. I remember Jordan at IIT. I can remember when a number of pros would play in the pro am here. Jabari Parker was in the Whitney Young pro am prior to the NBA summer league he was one of the few nba guys to play though. His father has a team and Jordan brand which he endorses sponsors it. That may play a role for him. Guys haven't played in the summer leagues here for years and I believe it has something to do with the risk of injury. Probably other factors but that has to be a reason

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Isn't it? They wouldn't win shit with just him and Hibbert, all the more simple for them to tank.

Rebuilding with a 23 year old player with star potential should be the way to go.

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I don't know anything about the routine degrees of severity for hockey injuries, but I would assume basketball players and non-pitching baseball players are the least likely to suffer the type of potentially career-ending injuries we see in football, and sometimes in baseball with a pitcher throwing his arm out, or getting beaned with a line drive to the head.

I'd say the worst NBA injuries in the realm of possibilities you routinely consider are the dreaded MCL and/or ACL tears, or a rupture of the Achilles tendon, and so on. For me at least, I never consider the possibility of someone playing basketball having his leg snapped in two like we've seen from Ware and George. That's NFL stuff and is beyond my imagination when it comes to the types of risk you take on when playing basketball.

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I don't mind the MLB stuff because they don't have a salary cap. The problem in the NBA is the strange cap. The NFL does it right and you are right. No one generally dies on the court (RIP hank gathers) where in the NFL it is a possibility. I still like the guaranteed part of the NFL contract and the ability to cut a player. In the MLB too bad you just pay more.

The NFL system only makes sense if you're an owner.

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I'm not sure the NFL system isn't the best.

I'd hate to see the NFL if you had players who were injured and no longer could play but had to show up every day to get paid like Amare. It would be bad for the owners and the players and the league.

It's not like the players would make more money with guaranteed contracts.

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Best for who? Everyone knew the Amare contract was awful. They couldn't even get insurance for it. The NFL system is terrible for the players in comparison to other sports. They lock you into cheap rookie deals that are longer than most NFL careers last. If you are good and lucky you may be able to get 1 big contract and it better be front loaded. One sign of a drop in production or an injury and they'll cut you loose. If you outplay that deal they aren't willing to give you a dime more. They've convinced fans that players should honor the contract they signed even though the team won't.

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The nature of the game necessitates that the NFL can't guarantee the contracts. It has to be a yr to yr thing. It would mess their salary structure up if the contracts were guaranteed and the quality of the product would depreciate because guys would sit out because they're money is locked up already.

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Amare has to show up to work every day even though he clearly can't play. A guaranteed contract also guarantees you have to play out the whole thing. If Amare were a NFL player, he'd have been cut and he could move on with his life.

It doesn't make sense the money would be any different with guaranteed contracts. The players and teams only care about the guaranteed money and maybe the first two years since it is unlikely the player gets cut after one year.

Imagine that Jay Cutler gets an injury that is going to make him bad at football. If he had a five guaranteed deal he would have to show up every training camp for five years to get it. If it happened now, he gets the guaranteed money and he can move on. You don't think Amare would be very happy if he could be "cut" and then retire?

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Give out shorter contract with insurance protection from injuries. Of course they already have insurance protections. Guys are rightly trying to sit out now but they don't have any leverage. The league screws the players while they are playing and after their careers are over. I really can't see how someone that doesn't have an ownership interest can support a system like that and I can't understand how the NFLPA continues to get their teeth kicked in.

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It's why I had a problem with Derrick Rose. If the last two yrs were contract yrs something tells me he would have played. He has 2 or 3 yrs left on his deal which is ample time to show the world that he's back. He doesn't have to rush back on the court because he will be paid anyway. He can bide his time and come back when he's 100%. He has been paid to do nothing and has enough time to get another max deal when this one is up because he will be fully healed.

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The players still get paid the same as they would be if it was guaranteed. They aren't signing Jay Cutler to that same contract if they are locked into him for the next 7 years.

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Rose is going to have to play his ass off to get anything close to a max deal next time. He has a chance to be another Amare, 40 yr old knees on a 25 yr old body

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Though the contracts aren't guaranteed the owners have been screwed over because of the huge signing bonuses. That is the one advantage that players enjoy. There have been a number of guys issued with signing bonuses only to never be heard from again

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Why would Amare care? He knew they were overpaying him. They chose to make a terrible basketball and financial decision. When you do that you should live with the consequences of that decision and not be given a mulligan. Amare will show up to work with a smile on his face. Why? Because he knows he may not be worth $5M today but he's going to make $24M. In the NFL even guaranteed money isn't always guaranteed.

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The Kyle Orton situation shows the players have plenty of power.

He basically said "I don't want to play QB any more" and got the Cowboys to release him and still pay him his whole signing bonus. All he was out was the $3 million he was going to make this year and he can go to any team he wants now.

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The Bulls pocketed $20M from insurance the past 2 years. They aren't upset. Long term it makes more sense for them if Rose is completely healthy.

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I disagree. We saw that with the NBA before they shortened the years on contracts. Teams make bad decisions all the time.

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it will be interesting to watch because he chose the surgery that was supposed to prolong his career. Didn't want to be Brandon Roy that's why he didn't come back sooner

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There are a ton of bad contracts in the NFL. Those players just go away while still getting paid.

For instance, the Texans have $10.5 million in dead money because of Schaub.

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Not true. Most of the guaranteed money isn't guaranteed. They're roster bonuses. If you're on the roster on this particular date you will receive the money. Of course the teams will cut you before then. It may effect their cap but not their bottom line.

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Schaub isn't getting that money. That's just a cap hit. It just limits their flexibility to put together a roster but not their pocketbooks. Same with the Bears and Peppers.

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The franchise player has missed the last two yrs because of injury. His absence had torpedoed any hope of winning he has been paid about 40 million. But the Bulls are not upset because they pocketed 20 million in insurance money. You can't be serious.

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From what I can tell, that hit for Schaub is mostly because of money he got guaranteed. He didn't have anything guaranteed for next year.

I'm not sure that you are right that the reported guaranteed money isn't guaranteed unless you are talking about the first year number which is a roster bonus that you get a few months after the contract.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Was-Schaubs-contract-extension-a-mistake.html

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The signing bonus is guaranteed

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