From a poster on deadspin:

WAS AT SPEEDWAY AND RIGHT NEAR TONY STEWARTS RACE HAULER.AFTER HE CAME IN HE HAD THE CREW CHAGE HIS RIGHT REAR TIRE .THEY ENDED UP PUTTING A LEFT ONE ON. COPS WERE TOLD ABOUT IT SO HOPEFULLY THEY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. HE ALSO HAD A GO PRO CAMERA ON HIS CAR HOPEFULLY THEY CONFISCATE THAT ALSO BEFORE THAT GETS DESTROYED. HEARD THE YOUNG DRIVER DIDN'T MAKE IT AND I HOPE IT'S NOT TRUE BUT THEY WOULDN'T BRING TONY OUT UNTIL ALL OTHER HAULERS WERE GONE .ALOT OF POLICE AROUND HIS HAULER ALONG WITH HIS PERSONEL SECURITY. HOPE IF THIS IS ALL TRUE WHAT HAPPENED ON THE TRACK THAT HE DOESN'T GET AWAY WITH IT. HE FINALLY LET HIS TEMPER GET THE BEST OF HIM........

That was ridiculous. He literally said he couldn't have an opinion on the death because it had nothing to do with racing. You're a damn analyst!

Stewart should go to jail based on what I saw. He won't.

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Agree on both

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especially since they aren't in cars.

I know absolutely nothing about NASCAR ... That's a bad analogy ...its more like suicide from some moron running onto a racetrack . Theblue n white car had to swerve to narrowly avoid this guy...I have no idea if Stewart's intention was to scare him or just avoid him...either way......there is No case there for any criminal charges .


why are the roofs of those cars shaped like that? I've never seen that strange design before ...is is for aerodynamics?

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No, it 's apt. Of course, running onto the track is foolish, but it's part of the show. Stewart knew what he was doing, he just didn't expect to hit him.

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Stewart probably revved the engine to scare him and fucked up. He knows damn well how sprint cars handle though, he should have known the back end would fishtail, idiot.

The guy who got run over is a total dipshit.

Not sure if it was intentional. I'd like to think it wasn't, but maybe.

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Dude who ran out = idiot

Tony Stewart = idiot

Based on all the expert and eyewitness accounts I've heard, I don't think Stewart meant to kill him but he did mean to send him a message, and it ended up being a terrible decision. Unfortunately for Stewart, breaking the law doesn't require one to have killed on purpose. We'll see. I bet Doc is right, though, and nothing will happen.

Stewart could also show just a little remorse by not trying to drive today. I don't buy that it will help him "cope" by driving again today. Moron.

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Family has a great civil case, fwiw.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja7TlxpPb_8&feature=youtu.be

A guy in dark/black clothes running across a track during a race on a dirt track at night with little interest in how close cars are going to be to him was doing something perfectly expected and reasonable.

Literally 3-4 blurry frames of amateur cellphone video centering only on the impact (with nothing whatsoever indicating the moments and movements prior to the moment of contact) is enough for a slew of amateur forensic accident investigators both here and abroad to know with enough precision to convict with certainty without trial what this Stewart guy was intending to do.

A cellphone camera that, like all of them, is obviously professionally mixed to pick-up sounds across to the far side of a race track over and above cars much closer to him but not in the shot.

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Not if I'm on that jury.



How common is it for 17 year old boys to racing with professional men like this?

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I saw that. ESPN was in damage control mode all morning.

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Come on, now. I'm not claiming to know anywhere near as much about racing as some of you guys, but are you saying running into the middle of the track is normal? I've never seen that before. Sure, guys will step away from their wrecked car and shake a fist or throw up a finger at the guy who put them into the wall, but this loon was running around in the middle of the track.

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Gearheads be like....Tony Stewart is not to blame at all? Really?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

A question that came up while discussing this...
Are drivers in these events tested for drugs/alcohol at all either before a race or after an incident?

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Look, this wasn't Pesci in Easy Money and he certainly wasn't dodging cars to his left and right. The line of traffic moved to the inside, so he ran around his car to confront Stewart. Of course he is going to be in the middle of the track at that point. Not uncommon in NASCAR and I personally witnessed it more than once at the handful of dirt races I went to when I lived in Indy.

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I hope Stewart goes to jail for a long time. Trying to scare this kid by hitting the gas while driving past him was incredibly stupid, as these cars fish tale big time when doing so. I'm sure he only meant to scare him but he ended up killing the kid as well as his career.

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Can we at least agree he's as responsible as Stewart is for his death? That's not excusing Stewart.

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Agreed, this kid's career is over.

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i wouldn't agree with that. he did not unexpectedly jump in front of Stewart's car and commit suicide. he was clearly visible on the track (at least from the eyewitness accounts i have read and the video i saw), and there are things stewart could have done to avoid him. rather than do any of those things, he decided to try to big time him and gun his engine and put a scare into him and it backfired.

no drivers should be allowed to walk on the track no matter how pissed off they are, but it should not give the other drivers the right to teach him a lesson and recklessly kill him.

How do you make this a reality tho? When cars crash the drivers have to get out of the car and they are going to be on the track. How can you enforce drivers staying in their car?

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Stay in the car until the emergency crew arrives. (Unless you are in some kind of danger like the car being on fire).

If you get out, automatic suspension for next race. Done.

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that is a great question. suspension from future races? i really don't know. but it shouldn't be tolerated.

Sounds simple.

Yet how do you determine what is immediate danger?

And so they stay in their car until crews arrive. They get out then and they are still on the track and they can still go after someone if they so choose.

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If you get out of the car after a wreck, Tony Stewart tags in and gets to chase you down in a modified tank.

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well i guess if you wait until the emergency crews arrive there is a chance tempers could cool enough so as to avoid an instant reaction like the one last night. i think a drive would naturally be allowed to leave a car to escape danger, but any confrontation instigated would result in a suspension.

I am in agree with you on this issue. Something needs to be done in order to stop this stuff from happening.

I just do not think it is as easy to police as some think.

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yeah, i don't know enough about auto racing in general to know how to police it, i just disagreed the above comment that ward was as responsible for his death as stewart. ward is 100% guilty of looking like a fool. he is dead due to poor judgement and a bad decision by tony stewart.