I would assume the equipment isn't cheap, either.
Or, they just don't want their shit destroyed.

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Maybe. But I think looters usually go for big box type stuff and things they can quickly flip. I figure a lot of the closed stores dont have much cash in them.


But I was just giving my buddy WWN shit

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Or how famous their headshots are ...

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The looting of "blacks" (Hard to believe some dark skin latinos where not in the mix), has resulting in a racist motivated hate post from Elmhurst Steve. This idot sits behind his keyboard all day scanning sites like TMZ, waiting for stories that fit his racist ajenda. He thinks the post is justified because the "blacks" need to be called out for their behavior and this injustice must not go unoticed. Nevermind the fact that Steve was silent for days only to come out from under his rock when white justice needed to be served. Oh, and definitely ignore the fact that an unarmed blackman was killed. The real issue are the HDTV's and Iphones that where stolen. Hell, lets call an inbred cracker an Elmhurst Steve.... Posting this will not make the evil black man bring back the HDTV's or replace the broken glass of the store owners shop. Steve just wanted to use the rioting as an excuse to exercise his hate of "blacks", plain and simple, just like Elmhurst Steve.

I was aware of the adulterous ways of King. I wasn't aware of drugs alcohol and abuse against women. King admitted to being a flawed individual during many of his sermons and stated that he should not be deified. It doesn't excuse his behavior. I too have taken issue with some of his beliefs. There are a few things that I take issue with. 1. Communism is not like al queda. It's a political theory. W.E.B. Dubois was also a communist. As was Paul Robeson A. Philip Randolph and many of the African American leaders of that period. There was a belief that socialism/communism was the way to go if equality was going to be attained. This belief was a product of the times in which these leaders lived. Another point that I take issue with is the notion that African Americans need to stop depending on govt. The System of slavery depended upon govt. The system of segregation depended upon govt. Without govt protection capitalism would not exist. Govt protection both economically and militarily allows private enterprise to flourish. The dependency of African Americans has been created by a system that has denied them access to scarce resources. The looters that have been showcased on the media are but a microcosm of the larger picture. There are many talented law abiding blacks that will never have access to anything. Racism is a part of it. It doesn't explain it in its entirety because the problem is far too complex to place within a neat package. Many of the so called self made men have become such with the help of govt.

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So there's a no-fly zone over Ferguson (Missourri, not Craig) ... which is smart because I can't tell you how many times I talk to people about how dangerous it is when gangs get up in their helicopters to direct looting activities.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2014/08/12/faa-bans-flights-over-ferguson-tensions-flare-between-police-residents/r8alkgU5A0KRWcTBSyla4O/story.html

The agency listed the reason as “to provide a safe environment for law enforcement activities.”

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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I understand that Putin has been arming the looters.

I am not arguing how the system we have was created or who it benefits more. I believe that the approach Malcolm X had would be more effective in empowering and uplifting blacks or any minority group. It's actually been proven to be effective. Building up your community and creating industries that allow you to control the economy in your community would give you power and a voice at the table. I will never believe that telling blacks and other poor people to turn to the government for a "guaranteed wage" will empower or uplift anyone. It creates dependency and it mutes your voice. One approach gives you the feeling of pride and strength and the other makes you feel inferior and weak. Which approach do you believe could create generational poverty? Which approach would an oppressor want you to have?

Communism was pretty much the equivalent of Al Qaeda at the time. In some ways it was probably considered worse. He accepted money from people who wanted to literally destroy the country he lived in and in return he gave them power and access. The man was a fraud. There is really no way around it. It really boils my blood the way the media portrays him and how black kids have been trained to believe he is someone they should worship or aspire to be like.

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I wouldn't get too worked up Nas. They're looking up to an idealized version of the man and it just happens to be MLK. They're not trying to emulate his bad attributes.

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I’m more offended by St. Louis loofahs.

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Why's it gotta be a black bird washin' a white woman's ass cheeks? RACIST!

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Great for cleaning out Pujols.

Why is the bird black to begin with? Cardinals are not black.

Red bird in balck face.

Not even close to the picture.

I'm shocked to discover that a cartoon version of a bird put in loofah form doesn't look like the real thing.

It is not as easy as pulling yourself up. There has always been government intervention in private industry. Pure capitalism has never existed in any society. The problem lie in solely looking for govt to bail you out. African Americans have historically been denied access to available resources. That is a fact. Communism was not worse than Al queda. Communism appealed to African Americans in an Era that schools were segregated grave injustices existed in America's legal system racial covenants existed in housing and inequality reigned in hiring practices. As a theory it was an alternative to capitalism. In fact there are communist elements to be found within America's capitalist system. I was not an admirer of King. He was a spokesman for the movement. I don't believe he was infallible. He had flaws as a person and there were flaws in his message. The problem afflicting African Americans not as simple as being dependant upon govt. Because it does not account for the African Americans that do not look to govt for handouts and the problem that they face. They can't get jobs either. African American unemployment has historically been twice the national average. It's not as simple as not wanting to work. For all the talk regarding welfare corporate welfare has been the biggest racket going for yrs.

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Guess what you don't have to do if you control the economy in your community? Beg anyone for a job or complain about them not giving you a job (despite your qualifications) because you are black. He wasn't asking for assistance to get on your feet. He was requesting a wage from the government that you could live off of for the rest of your life. The idea of needing the government to provide a guaranteed income is lazy and it's nothing more than a slave way of thinking. Why wouldn't many slaves run away or fight for their freedom? Why didn't many leave after being granted their freedom? They had been conditioned to believe that the safest and best place for them was under the thumb of their masters. They weren't smart enough or strong enough to survive and thrive on their own. Imagine telling your kids (if you have any) that there is no need to go to school and work hard because they can always stay at home with you and you'll provide whatever they need for the rest of their lives? That was his message. He was selling a defeatist mentality to an entire group of people. A group of people he was supposed to be trying to uplift. Who should want to follow that? What type of people would celebrate that way of thinking and encourage others to do so? People that want to continue to oppress a particular group of people.

I'm not knocking the man because he wasn't perfect. We've all made many mistakes and as long as we are living we will make even more. I knock the man because his core beliefs were flawed at best. I knock the man because he was a fraud and morally bankrupt. I knock the man because I believe black people deserved better. There were many more people who had a positive message (that wasn't plagiarized) that should be the face of that movement and idolized for their courage and resilience.

http://www.wealthandwant.com/docs/King_Where.htm

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I'm am not as familiar with his economic theories because they were at best evolving. He was beginning to speak out more with regard to economics at the time he was assassinated. I think the edification of him occurred because he was assassinated. It turned him into a martyr. Had he lived many of his shortcomings would have surfaced. The only issue that I have is the notion that socioeconomic conditions afflicting African Americans is the solely a byproduct of not working hard enough. That great espouser of the bootstrap mentality Booker T. Washington belittled and ridiculed blacks for the purpose of garnering white support. He did not build Tuskegee with his bare hands he built it with the money of white philanthropists. Many of the leading proponents of capitalism have depended upon govt handouts for survival. I have never heard about a lifetime wage which is what it appears you're suggesting. If King promoted this then he is wrong. It would not benefit African Americans in the long wrong. A vast number of people and groups have benefitted from govt. intervention. That is why the lobbying industry is the largest entity in D.C. There shouldn't be a permanent dole but to suggest that African Americans shouldn't look to govt for help is simply fallacious. Keep in mind that it was the govt. In conjunction with private enterprise which helped suppress the race.

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I was trying to edit and it quoted.

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I have never said this because I also don't believe it to be true. We're in agreement when it comes to that.

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I have witnessed attempts to keep it in the community so to speak but the results always end up the same. Beauty and Barbershop Liquor stores fast food restaurants. That's about it. Very little in the way of economic diversity. Financial resources are limited as is disposable income. Black Separatism which originated as a theory with Martin Delany has never been the answer. It has never gained much traction. Marcus Garvey probably got further with it than anyone but he too was eventually done in by mismanagement among other things. Black empowerment sounds good until you consider the means which necessitates empowerment. Empowerment would require control of financial institutions which currently African Americans don't have

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MSNBC has live coverage of the chaos in Ferguson. It's unreal. It does not look like America.

MSNBC is also completely killing the police right now.

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Wish I could see it. I wonder if there is a stream somewhere.

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Completely disagree. Other groups of people have successfully done it. Blacks still spend their dollars in their community and also bank in their community so why can't they own some of these businesses or financial institutions? Why can't they control their local economy?

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Just turned it on. I see the police is still shooting rubber bullets and firing tear gas into crowds and yards. Ferguson is a war zone. I can't see how things can go back to normal.

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