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The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


I have to presume that was why he spent a lot of time sputtering about that quickie mart or whatever it was.

For those Keeping Score at home, a few things not discussed or handed out:
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- any police report written by Officer Wilson;
- any narrative of the shooting ... you know, the major point of all of this.

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Nas wrote:
The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


Even if there was footage of the kid committing a robbery, the liberal press and the protestors would say that the officer shouldn't have shot him after the kid struggled with him when an arrest was attempted. Despite getting hit in the face and having to fight to retain his firearm, he should have let the kid get away, rather than shooting him. After all, at that point, the kid was no longer armed. Bullshit. I say he did the right thing. If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.

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and then you might well be arrested for failing to obey a lawful order of a Police Officer. Congratulations, you're attitude will cost you a night in jail, bond money after your bond hearing, perhaps attorney fees and fines, court costs....but you showed him!


You would be celebrated in a Kakistocracy. Congratulations!

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Don Tiny wrote:
Nas wrote:
The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


I have to presume that was why he spent a lot of time sputtering about that quickie mart or whatever it was.

For those Keeping Score at home, a few things not discussed or handed out:
- a use of force report;
- any police report written by Officer Wilson;
- any narrative of the shooting ... you know, the major point of all of this.


Explanations don't matter. The officer said he was threatened and then shot the threat. Case closed. <---That's really the counter argument to the protestors.

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Is it safe to say Anonymous failed and put the life of an innocent man in danger? Let's not celebrate groups like this.

Yep if its ever traced back to whomever put that shit out there, they should be prosecuted .

Thank goodness that Hank has it name cleared.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
Nas wrote:
The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


Even if there was footage of the kid committing a robbery, the liberal press and the protestors would say that the officer shouldn't have shot him after the kid struggled with him when an arrest was attempted. Despite getting hit in the face and having to fight to retain his firearm, he should have let the kid get away, rather than shooting him. After all, at that point, the kid was no longer armed. Bullshit. I say he did the right thing. If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.


:lol:

Why did you get fired from being a cop?

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Nas wrote:
The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


Even if there was footage of the kid committing a robbery, the liberal press and the protestors would say that the officer shouldn't have shot him after the kid struggled with him when an arrest was attempted. Despite getting hit in the face and having to fight to retain his firearm, he should have let the kid get away, rather than shooting him. After all, at that point, the kid was no longer armed. Bullshit. I say he did the right thing. If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Are we getting law enforcement admonitions from someone who couldn't cut it in law enforcement?

Next week on Inappropriate Roundtable, we'll have FarveFan talk about the history of the so-called 'dump and chase' in hockey, followed by a discussion led by Nas on the importance of discretion when talking about one's personal Income Tax forms.

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Nas wrote:
The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


Even if there was footage of the kid committing a robbery, the liberal press and the protestors would say that the officer shouldn't have shot him after the kid struggled with him when an arrest was attempted. Despite getting hit in the face and having to fight to retain his firearm, he should have let the kid get away, rather than shooting him. After all, at that point, the kid was no longer armed. Bullshit. I say he did the right thing. If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.

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Steve is not smart enough to troll.

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If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.


this is pretty much the cop mentality : judge, jury & executioner...


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If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.


this is pretty much the cop mentality : judge, jury & executioner...


Yep. Vigilantes everywhere rejoice! You get to decide who lives and dies!

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Nas wrote:
The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


Even if there was footage of the kid committing a robbery, the liberal press and the protestors would say that the officer shouldn't have shot him after the kid struggled with him when an arrest was attempted. Despite getting hit in the face and having to fight to retain his firearm, he should have let the kid get away, rather than shooting him. After all, at that point, the kid was no longer armed. Bullshit. I say he did the right thing. If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.


:lol:

Why did you get fired from being a cop?


I didn't. I resigned when my Dad had a heart attack and took over the business, as he was unable to continue to run things. I was Vice-president of my class in the Academy, had my degree (bachelors degree, not some lame associates degree) in Law Enforcement Administration and was a decorated officer. I saved a life performing CPR on a store owner who had a heart attack and had many other accomplishments I am proud of. But my family and quite honestly more money, were factors in my decision to resign from that job. We had very few blacks in town and if I am to be really honest, we had a watch commander that hated blacks and made a point to make them as uncomfortable as possible. Writing a ticket, making an arrest whenever possible were encouraged. We don't want them wanting to live here-was his stance. We got along just fine.

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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

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Why did the watch commander get fired, Steve?

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We had very few blacks in town and if I am to be really honest, we had a watch commander that hated blacks and made a point to make them as uncomfortable as possible. Writing a ticket, making an arrest whenever possible were encouraged. We don't want them wanting to live here-was his stance. We got along just fine.


Ladies and gentlemen, a former police officer, Elmhurst Steve!

Good thing we really scrutinize these guys!

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Why did the watch commander get fired, Steve?



He didn't. He put in 30 years and is now retired. He was the best of the 3 watch commanders we had while I was on the force.

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It appears that the kid WAS in that store and assaulted a very small man. No proof of him stealing anything or having a weapon yet.

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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


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Why did the watch commander get fired, Steve?



He didn't. He put in 30 years and is now retired. He was the best of the 3 watch commanders we had while I was on the force.


Were the other 2 watch commanders big racists, too?


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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


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Why did the watch commander get fired, Steve?



He didn't. He put in 30 years and is now retired. He was the best of the 3 watch commanders we had while I was on the force.


Were the other 2 watch commanders big racists, too?


Not really. One was really lazy and more interested in looking at porn magazines he would borrow from the Convenient store than doing any work. The 3rd guy was good and is now the Chief of Police in Carpentersville.

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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


Okay


Even if he was in a gang or had a criminal record he was still shot in the back, right? At a distance? Even if he did go for the officers gun he obviously didn't get ahold of it.

If the officer was struck in the face that doesn't mean he automatically gets to shoot someone.


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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


I want to see the assholes that inflamed these idiots apologize to the community after it's shown that the police Officer did nothing wrong in this shooting.

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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


I want to see the assholes that inflamed these idiots apologize to the community after it's shown that the police Officer did nothing wrong in this shooting.

What class at the Police Academy do they teach cadets to shoot people in the back?

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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


I want to see the assholes that inflamed these idiots apologize to the community after it's shown that the police Officer did nothing wrong in this shooting.

Except for shooting someone in the back.


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Even if he was in a gang or had a criminal record he was still shot in the back, right? At a distance? Even if he did go for the officers gun he obviously didn't get ahold of it.

If the officer was struck in the face that doesn't mean he automatically gets to shoot someone.

True, the shooting is murder and there is no justifying it


On the other hand, the story that he stole cigars is a little different than a kid just minding his own business walking down the street.


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The pics I'm seeing certainly seem to indicate the kid was an asswipe. Not 'shoot in the back as he's running away, then also after he stops and puts his hands up continue firing slugs into him' asswipe, but certainly an asswipe.


I'm seeing different pictures. Mainly of him smiling and some from his graduation. What's funny is I was having this conversation with a friend. The photos of kids or adults pretending to be tough usually backfire when they get killed. The perception of what type of person you are or were generally comes from your pictures.

Seeing many gang sign pics.


I want to see the assholes that inflamed these idiots apologize to the community after it's shown that the police Officer did nothing wrong in this shooting.

Absolutely, positively ZERO justification for shooting an unarmed citizen in the back.

His own police force wont even say that


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