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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:41 pm 
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Well, thanks for pissing in my Cheerios favrefan.

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So what happens the next time somebody locks himself in a school and starts mowing kids down? Beat on the door with a night stick?
Terrorist attack?

These situations require "military" type responses. Perhaps we could mandate that police officers use common sense as to when to use military techniques? That would probably fix the problem.

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So what happens the next time somebody locks himself in a school and starts mowing kids down? Beat on the door with a night stick?
Terrorist attack?


Sometimes I completely understand why people think you're a bit touched in the head.

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well what exactly are we talking about when people say we need to "de-militarize" the police?

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Don Tiny wrote:
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So what happens the next time somebody locks himself in a school and starts mowing kids down? Beat on the door with a night stick?
Terrorist attack?


Sometimes I completely understand why people think you're a bit touched in the head.


:lol: I don't know why, but Don's response made me lol.

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Well, thanks for pissing in my Cheerios favrefan.

:lol:

But it's true right? That's the point I was trying to convey in your political philosophies thread. As long as the vast majority of people are ok with the status quo, it wont change.

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Well, thanks for pissing in my Cheerios favrefan.

:lol:

But it's true right? That's the point I was trying to convey in your political philosophies thread. As long as the vast majority of people are ok with the status quo, it wont change.


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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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well what exactly are we talking about when people say we need to "de-militarize" the police?


That's not the part I meant ... or quoted.

Your direct comparison of some idiot asswipe kid rolling a quickie mart guy for Swisher Sweets and then getting drilled in the back multiple times by a cop with heretofore no stated good reason (or, for that matter, denial of) to terrorism or someone shooting up a school is just fucking dopey and that's literally the most Christian way I can bring myself to describe it.

The part about getting some fucking sense into how we allow outselves to be policed intelligently is fine however, great even.

That's why I excised the part that was fine and pointed out the aforementioned fucking dopey part.

I like you. You're a nice guy. That's why when you post things that make me want to sodomize you with a Tuscon cactus - kinda like I feel about jpasta and 85% of his Cubs thoughts - it's far, far, far more infuriating than when some board cuntrags like racist painters or cum-and-cocaine-loving lawyers post whatever it is they post.

I've got a good shit to go take, then a stop at the post office, a trip to the liquor store (for ice, thanks), and then I have a small town parade to go dick around with / quasi-manage / be Johnny Sociable at. Didn't see that last part coming, eh? Funny world.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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CNBC just reported that the cop was black


He's not


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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Don Tiny wrote:
That's not the part I meant ... or quoted.
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But that's what I was talking about: "de-militarization." I don't know what that means, nor can I come up with my own definition of it, whereby it would be an obviously good thing.

What exactly are people disagreeing with here, that cops should not shoot people in the back?

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CNBC just reported that the cop was black


He's not


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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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That's not the part I meant ... or quoted.
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But that's what I was talking about: "de-militarization." I don't know what that means, nor can I come up with my own definition of it, whereby it would be an obviously good thing.

What exactly are people disagreeing with here, that cops should not shoot people in the back?


The British police generally don't carry guns, and for a long time, never carried guns at all. Some police forces have the equipment of the U.S. military. Now you figure out whether local police departments need tanks and heavy arms. I think it is obvious what de-militarization means, and you're probably just being cute.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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were tanks or heavy arms used in this instance?

Of course, cops in Britain don't need guns. NOBODY has guns there.

the militarization was in response to 9-11 terrorist attacks and assorted mass shootings.

I don't think cops need tanks and heavy artillery. But there was a public hew and cry and subsequent government funding for this stuff.

I don't see how this relates to a kid getting into a scuffle with a cop and getting shot in the back.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Was the robbery from a different day? Did the kid go home and change clothes? If the officer wasn't stopping him for the robbery then what was the point of releasing the name and the video at the same time?

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were tanks or heavy arms used in this instance?

Of course, cops in Britain don't need guns. NOBODY has guns there.

the militarization was in response to 9-11 terrorist attacks and assorted mass shootings.

I don't think cops need tanks and heavy artillery. But there was a public hew and cry and subsequent government funding for this stuff.

I don't see how this relates to a kid getting into a scuffle with a cop and getting shot in the back.


No. The Pentagon started giving away free equipment in 1997.

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CPD had shields helmets and tear gas in the 60s too.

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The police chief kinda made it sound like the kid was a robbery suspect.


Even if there was footage of the kid committing a robbery, the liberal press and the protestors would say that the officer shouldn't have shot him after the kid struggled with him when an arrest was attempted. Despite getting hit in the face and having to fight to retain his firearm, he should have let the kid get away, rather than shooting him. After all, at that point, the kid was no longer armed. Bullshit. I say he did the right thing. If the kid is willing to commit robbery, assault a Police Officer and try to wrest away his gun, he has proven to me that he has no place in society other than a jail or a morgue.


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Stop resisting arrest! We're seeing police kill and abuse people daily but it's not their fault.

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He is a gang member, was attempting a robbery, struck a Police officer and tried to take his firearm.....Yeah, we need people like this :roll:


A smart person would have learned from his stupidity after the Trayvon Martin situation, but unfortunately, you aren't so bright.

When you bring up possible criminal records on Martin and Brown, you are justifying the police executing people in the street, in broad daylight.

Why are you so angry Steve? Has the acting career not taken off as expected?

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I'll bet Steve, and his small pecker syndrome, is jealous of these cops in full military regalia.

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You are correct Seacrest. I just can't help myself sometimes. I will work on it though... for the good of society.

About time you did something good for society, we have been waiting.


I gave a cop my leftovers yesterday, free of charge.


Did you spit in the sandwich first, like Dominic in Casino?

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well what exactly are we talking about when people say we need to "de-militarize" the police?


Hatchetman wrote:
were tanks or heavy arms used in this instance?

Of course, cops in Britain don't need guns. NOBODY has guns there.

the militarization was in response to 9-11 terrorist attacks and assorted mass shootings.

I don't think cops need tanks and heavy artillery. But there was a public hew and cry and subsequent government funding for this stuff.

I don't see how this relates to a kid getting into a scuffle with a cop and getting shot in the back.



Ok good, now we're getting somewhere. Earlier you didn't know what de-militarization meant. Since you seem to understand what militarization is, de-miliatarization is the opposite or undoing of the first.

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if that is how you are defining it, what the hell does it have to do with this case?

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if that is how you are defining it, what the hell does it have to do with this case?


You must have missed the response by the police.

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if that is how you are defining it, what the hell does it have to do with this case?


Are you playing dumb on purpose? Come on, you're a mayor of a violent suburb. I think you understand perfectly well. If you don't, then please go sit for the GED test, and be sure to study hard.

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OK, so we're talking about the repression of the subsequent protestors? I can see a link there, but that kind of behavior has been occurring forever, long before cops had tanks.

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Stop resisting arrest! We're seeing police kill and abuse people daily but it's not their fault.

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Totally justified. She probably tried to grab his gun.

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BTW, IMO cops should just let rioters riot. let 'em burn the town down. not really worth anyone getting killed over.

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OK, so we're talking about the repression of the subsequent protestors? I can see a link there, but that kind of behavior has been occurring forever, long before cops had tanks.


Cops in full military gear with assault weapons and military vehicles?

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BTW, IMO cops should just let rioters riot. let 'em burn the town down. not really worth anyone getting killed over.


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