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Cops in full military gear with assault weapons and military vehicles?


I dunno. What did they have in Selma in the 60s or at the '68 convention?

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Cops in full military gear with assault weapons and military vehicles?


I dunno. What did they have in Selma in the 60s or at the '68 convention?



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if that is how you are defining it, what the hell does it have to do with this case?

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alright I wouldn't even have been drawn into this, but I thought we were talking about black kids getting shot by cops. my fault for not reading the thread from the top.

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Witness may have live tweeted Brown's murder
http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/8/15/60 ... s-shooting

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It's not always the request that's made it's the words that are used. If I were walking in the street and a cop (whose salary I'm helping to pay) told me to "get the fuck on the sidewalk" there is a great chance I wouldn't move.



A cop always must act with composure and professionalism. This is always true until a real threat makes it not true. In Nas' case please sir step to the sidewalk. Ina traffic stop please maam or sir can I see your license, reg and ins. It goes on until there are some sticky threat issue or a real crime in progress.

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My next door neighbor is a cop for a tougher suburb. The stories he tells me about the people he deals with every day gives me an insight as to how cops become jaded. They begin to see every citizen (especially minorities) as the enemy. The entire department has an attitude of us against them. Lest you think my neighbor is a white cop, you would be wrong.

It literally took this guy one year as a cop to become jaded about society.



In my subdivision there are several state troopers. You have not known anything about cops until they are together drunk at a party.

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After seeing the shots police have supplied of the kid strong arming the store owner and grabbing the guy by the throat, I am more certain than ever that this was no tragedy.

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After seeing the shots police have supplied of the kid strong arming the store owner and grabbing the guy by the throat, I am more certain than ever that this was no tragedy.

You're suggesting that a guy who robbed a store owner deserves to die?

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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After seeing the shots police have supplied of the kid strong arming the store owner and grabbing the guy by the throat, I am more certain than ever that this was no tragedy.

You're suggesting that a guy who robbed a store owner deserves to die?


I am saying (not suggesting) that I believe that a gang banger who robs a store, physically assaults not only the store owner, but moments later a Police Officer and tries to wrest the service weapon away from that officer, deserves to die. The world is better off.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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After seeing the shots police have supplied of the kid strong arming the store owner and grabbing the guy by the throat, I am more certain than ever that this was no tragedy.

You're suggesting that a guy who robbed a store owner deserves to die?


I am saying (not suggesting) that I believe that a gang banger who robs a store, physically assaults not only the store owner, but moments later a Police Officer and tries to wrest the service weapon away from that officer, deserves to die. The world is better off.


You're a really smart guy. I bet you have lots of money and that many people respect your opinions and seek out your advice.

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After seeing the shots police have supplied of the kid strong arming the store owner and grabbing the guy by the throat, I am more certain than ever that this was no tragedy.

You're suggesting that a guy who robbed a store owner deserves to die?


I am saying (not suggesting) that I believe that a gang banger who robs a store, physically assaults not only the store owner, but moments later a Police Officer and tries to wrest the service weapon away from that officer, deserves to die. The world is better off.

I don't suppose that innocent until proven guilty or due process means much to you?
I'm not going to lie, it's obvious that I don't like you and find you of low character.
But this is an obscenity.
The world is better off? I'll even give you that perhaps if he were to actually commit a serious crime instead of these petty crimes sometime in the future, the world is worse off because of this clear abuse of power and the fact that people like you find this acceptable does more damage to our society than this guy was capable of.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Try and look at the bigger picture here everyone.

Steve no longer being a police officer is a positive for the community he worked in, and the population at large.

Be thankful and quit responding to the stupidity he posts here.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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It's hard to pick what's the saddest part of his existence.

He's racist.
Lying about bowling scores.
Bragging about important social engagements.
His rec league dominance.
He's sexist.
Calling radio shows with obvious thought and bad jokes.
Calling radio shows while he is painting the host's basement.

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It's hard to pick what's the saddest part of his existence.

He's racist.
Lying about bowling scores.
Bragging about important social engagements.
His rec league dominance.
He's sexist.
Calling radio shows with obvious thought and bad jokes.
Calling radio shows while he is painting the host's basement.

He's like all the assholes I know rolled into one.



He's looking for negative attention from total strangers on a week end. Let him be.

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Seacrest is right. He probably believes what he's saying but the reason he's posting these things is to get a negative reaction. It almost always works.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Essentially 10 of the subsequent, oh I'll guess 12, minutes from the moment of the shooting.

Make of it what you will.

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He's like all the assholes I know rolled into one.

Easy there, Little Missy. Leave me out of this. I've been on the board's forefront of distrusting the police and the establishment. It's nice to see some of the sheep gave come around to my way of thinking.

Here's a suggestion. The local police forces are civilians, just like us, no? How about they only are allowed to use weapons that we are legally allowed to use? The militarization of local police forces and federal agencies like the EPA, DEA, and Christ, even the Dept of education has a swat team that serves no other purpose than to keep the general population in line without having to call out any 'military' force to control the population. This has been a long time in the making, but now the Federal Government has the means to control and oppress all of the citizenry through bureaucratic means, be it local or federal.

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Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Essentially 10 of the subsequent, oh I'll guess 12, minutes from the moment of the shooting.

Make of it what you will.


That's a pretty good distance from the police car.
I thought they were walking in a busy street.
Witnesses were saying even after shooting him the cop stood over him and continued firing.
His entire family arrived before EMS.
The officer was being an asshole from the beginning
No doubt he was murdered

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Nas wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Essentially 10 of the subsequent, oh I'll guess 12, minutes from the moment of the shooting.

Make of it what you will.


That's a pretty good distance from the police car.
I thought they were walking in a busy street.
Witnesses were saying even after shooting him the cop stood over him and continued firing.
His entire family arrived before EMS.
The officer was being an asshole from the beginning
No doubt he was murdered

Serve and protect, my fucking ass.

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Mr. Reason wrote:
Nas wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Essentially 10 of the subsequent, oh I'll guess 12, minutes from the moment of the shooting.

Make of it what you will.


That's a pretty good distance from the police car.
I thought they were walking in a busy street.
Witnesses were saying even after shooting him the cop stood over him and continued firing.
His entire family arrived before EMS.
The officer was being an asshole from the beginning
No doubt he was murdered

Serve and protect, my fucking ass.


I think it's safe to say the police are becoming more of a problem every day. They are a street gang.

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Nas wrote:
Mr. Reason wrote:
Nas wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Essentially 10 of the subsequent, oh I'll guess 12, minutes from the moment of the shooting.

Make of it what you will.


That's a pretty good distance from the police car.
I thought they were walking in a busy street.
Witnesses were saying even after shooting him the cop stood over him and continued firing.
His entire family arrived before EMS.
The officer was being an asshole from the beginning
No doubt he was murdered

Serve and protect, my fucking ass.[/]

I think it's safe to say the police are becoming more of a problem every day. They are a street gang.

A government controlled street gang.

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Spaulding wrote:
He's like all the assholes I know rolled into one.

Easy there, Little Missy. Leave me out of this. I've been on the board's forefront of distrusting the police and the establishment. It's nice to see some of the sheep gave come around to my way of thinking.

Here's a suggestion. The local police forces are civilians, just like us, no? How about they only are allowed to use weapons that we are legally allowed to use? The militarization of local police forces and federal agencies like the EPA, DEA, and Christ, even the Dept of education has a swat team that serves no other purpose than to keep the general population in line without having to call out any 'military' force to control the population. This has been a long time in the making, but now the Federal Government has the means to control and oppress all of the citizenry through bureaucratic means, be it local or federal.

We are all fucked.


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rubber bullets or using a stun gun in certain situations as a 1st resort could have saved a lot of anguigh and tension. Stories everyday about some cop to quick to draw.

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Don Tiny wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM

Essentially 10 of the subsequent, oh I'll guess 12, minutes from the moment of the shooting.

Make of it what you will.


It's not that easy to see in these videos, but the first thing I notice is it looks like his shorts are a different color than when he was "robbing" the store. Is it the same guy? Is it the same day? Did he run home and change his pants before he got shot?

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
You say I live in a SMALL pathetic LITTLE world. Then you say unfortunately, there are many people like this. How do MANY people like this, all fit in a small, little world? Maybe you aren't intelligent enough to have recognized the hypocrisy involved in your post? Perhaps you need to consider that it was people far more intelligent than you, who decided that giving Police officers this authority was appropriate. The fact that you don't like them having it, is insignificant.


i don't get why steve is begrudging the "liberal media" when brown's own family thinks that releasing the stuff about the alleged "strong arm" robbery is desecrating his name. i actually think the way media outlets have handled this is almost as bad as how the police in the area have.

what's typically idiotic about his assessment is that there's a political leaning to it. if anything, the media stories that have come out recently have shown brown to be a hoodlum, deflecting from the story about him being unarmed and shot to death.


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Spaulding wrote:
It's hard to pick what's the saddest part of his existence.

He's racist.
Lying about bowling scores.
Bragging about important social engagements.
His rec league dominance.
He's sexist.
Calling radio shows with obvious thought and bad jokes.
Calling radio shows while he is painting the host's basement.

He's like all the assholes I know rolled into one.


He's looking for negative attention from total strangers on a week end. Let him be.
He's just seizing the opportunity to regain his rightful throne as most disliked board member again now that BMac has been banned.

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Just remember , next riot, a kinder gentler police presence is the key to ending it.

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