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If someone shot and killed Darren Wilson right now, would you think of that person better, worse, or the same as you currently think of Darren Wilson?

Much worse.

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While I am NOT in favor of killing cops, the thought that their safety is the single most important thing, to the point that they can use "tanks", spray tear gas and rubber bullets into peaceful protests, and ignore any potential medical aid to a young kid that THEY shot is a problem. Cops signed up for the jobs they have and everything the job entails. Their safety is not more important than freedom.

I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.

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Question for you:

If someone shot and killed Darren Wilson right now, would you think of that person better, worse, or the same as you currently think of Darren Wilson?

Much worse.

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While I am NOT in favor of killing cops, the thought that their safety is the single most important thing, to the point that they can use "tanks", spray tear gas and rubber bullets into peaceful protests, and ignore any potential medical aid to a young kid that THEY shot is a problem. Cops signed up for the jobs they have and everything the job entails. Their safety is not more important than freedom.

I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.


Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.

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There's a lot of good stuff going on in New Hampshire.

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leashyourkids wrote:
While I am NOT in favor of killing cops, the thought that their safety is the single most important thing, to the point that they can use "tanks", spray tear gas and rubber bullets into peaceful protests, and ignore any potential medical aid to a young kid that THEY shot is a problem. Cops signed up for the jobs they have and everything the job entails. Their safety is not more important than freedom.

I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.


Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


Awesome. Do you have any links?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
While I am NOT in favor of killing cops, the thought that their safety is the single most important thing, to the point that they can use "tanks", spray tear gas and rubber bullets into peaceful protests, and ignore any potential medical aid to a young kid that THEY shot is a problem. Cops signed up for the jobs they have and everything the job entails. Their safety is not more important than freedom.

I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.


Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


Awesome. Do you have any links?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/1 ... 79983.html

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424 ... 6?mobile=y

Kudos to this state representative for introducing a bill to disallow municipalities from taking them.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.


Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


Awesome. Do you have any links?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/1 ... 79983.html

Keene is where the Free State Project guys are based out of. They had a big hand in that.

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http://www.highwaydruginterdiction.com/



It looks real.

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Did Don get pruned?


100% self-pruned, at my own discretion. An accurate, but (I felt) ultimately unnecessarily inflammatory post that didn't prove anything and detracted from the potential for intelligent discussion.

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The only "people" advocating killing cops is 312player. Let's not pretend others are actually on that bandwagon.

He deserves his own wing of the bad CSFMB poster hall of fame.


I said that last weekend and iirc was somewhat quietly shouted down (e.g., he's not that bad).

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Did Don get pruned?


100% self-pruned, at my own discretion. An accurate, but (I felt) ultimately unnecessarily inflammatory post that didn't prove anything and detracted from the potential for intelligent discussion.


Too bad I didn't get a chance to see it.

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Did Don get pruned?


100% self-pruned, at my own discretion. An accurate, but (I felt) ultimately unnecessarily inflammatory post that didn't prove anything and detracted from the potential for intelligent discussion.


Too bad I didn't get a chance to see it.


As I intimated, it was none too incisive; it was four words, and two of them were "my". It was a dopey, reactionary post to seemingly purposeful ignorance. Whooptie-do, it happens 100 times a day around here.

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If we can find a actual, factual positive in all of this, it's the (hopefully continued) rise of Mr. Antonio French who seems brave enough and level-headed enough and without any inappropriate 'agenda' to be a real fucking mensch going forward.

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100% self-pruned, at my own discretion. An accurate, but (I felt) ultimately unnecessarily inflammatory post that didn't prove anything and detracted from the potential for intelligent discussion.


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Well this ought to end well.

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No problem with that. Other citizens did the same thing (minus the guns) when people started looting last night. They're protecting their community.

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While I am NOT in favor of killing cops, the thought that their safety is the single most important thing, to the point that they can use "tanks", spray tear gas and rubber bullets into peaceful protests, and ignore any potential medical aid to a young kid that THEY shot is a problem. Cops signed up for the jobs they have and everything the job entails. Their safety is not more important than freedom.

I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.


Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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leashyourkids wrote:
While I am NOT in favor of killing cops, the thought that their safety is the single most important thing, to the point that they can use "tanks", spray tear gas and rubber bullets into peaceful protests, and ignore any potential medical aid to a young kid that THEY shot is a problem. Cops signed up for the jobs they have and everything the job entails. Their safety is not more important than freedom.

I'm not in favor of killing cops in general. It probably even would have been a bad idea in this case. But i think it certainly would have been more understandable if one of these citizens who was being attacked shot and killed a cop than it was for Wilson to shoot and kill Michael Brown. When nobody is serving justice and the ones who are supposed to are systematically discriminating and oppressing you, there's not a whole lot of options left. And simply because Darren Wilson is a cop he is literally allowed to get away with murder. And it happens all over the country all the time.


Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


Liberal pussies.


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Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


Liberal pussies.


When Al-Qaeda makes landfall they are going to regret that decision.


I'm sure Al-Qaeda's navy is on the way, as we type.

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Are the guys in Ferguson acting as a community police force or an occupying army? There is a clear difference. I don't think a community police officer should wake up every morning expecting that he might die that day. But a soldier in a military operation should be prepared for the possibility.

I just read an article about all of the military gear that the feds are giving/selling very cheaply to municipalities. A town- I think in New Hampshire- was offered one of those assault vehicles and they turned it down because "that's not who we are". Good for them.


Liberal pussies.


When Al-Qaeda makes landfall they are going to regret that decision.


I'm sure Al-Qaeda's navy is on the way, as we type.


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"State of Emergency" declared in Ferguson by governor Nixon ... 12am-5am curfew ... Police are establishing a media staging area to get press credentials and allow them in/out access of the 'emergency zone'.

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