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Bernsie has absolutely settled. And that is ok if you want. many people do that. In the early days he had the skill but not the looks to be doing ESPN tv.


He didn't have the chops to do real news or real journalism or become a lawyer or doctor...so here is his.

Him taking the "REAL NEWS GUY" turn on PSU, concussions etc, all makes sense.

Not a failure in relative terms to us but probably a major letdown relative to his family and social circles.


I agree. Very successful by average guy standards though.

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Bernsie has absolutely settled. And that is ok if you want. many people do that. In the early days he had the skill but not the looks to be doing ESPN tv.


He didn't have the chops to do real news or real journalism or become a lawyer or doctor...so here is his.

Him taking the "REAL NEWS GUY" turn on PSU, concussions etc, all makes sense.

Not a failure in relative terms to us but probably a major letdown relative to his family and social circles.


What are you trying to say here SomeGuy? That we are all failures?

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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



No actually it isn't worth having.

He has a set up just about every one of us on this board would die to have. He gets to talk sports for 5 hours a day and gets paid very well.

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no, bernstein won the game. we lost.

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no, bernstein won the game. we lost.


Says who?

And who is "we"? You got a turd in your pocket?

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what more is there?

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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



No actually it isn't worth having.

He has a set up just about every one of us on this board would die to have. He gets to talk sports for 5 hours a day and gets paid very well.


Fortunately for Dan, success in radio is defined by whether or not a bunch of mooks on a message board "would die to have" one's life, not by whether or not one gets his ass spanked by Waddle & Silvy on a monthly basis.

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Hatchetman wrote:
makes more money
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what more is there?


How the hell would you know if any of these are true for any of us as individuals?

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IS THIS A BIT?? :lol:

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makes more money
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what more is there?


:lol: :lol:

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IS THIS A BIT?? :lol:


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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



No actually it isn't worth having.

He has a set up just about every one of us on this board would die to have. He gets to talk sports for 5 hours a day and gets paid very well.


I realize that this isn't the topic at hand, but what you've just posted is why so many folks get so angry/turned off by both Boers and Bernstein. Dan could not act more put upon, in terms of having to talk to callers... and Terry literally can't be bothered to even watch sports, rather he simply leans on memories from when he did work and has perfected the art of the stumbling agreement/rephrasing/reclaim as his own thought.

They're just not beloved - and man, they could be. Dan likes to talk about how former athletes could OWN this town (and how some have), I don't understand why he and Terry have chosen the route of outright attacks and complete disgust of their audience. And no, I don't but that it's a bit.


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Terry Boers has to have one of the worst contracts (in terms of value for the station) of any host in America. He is the Alfonso Soriano of sports radio. He adds nothing.

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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



It is a conversation that was had with him by at least one person.

Keep moving up professionally.

Or stay here and claim the mantel of the "smartest kid in the dumb row."

He made his choice and his present level of bitterness leads any non ALS member to wonder if he doesn't regret it.

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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



It is a conversation that was had with him by at least one person.

Keep moving up professionally.

Or stay here and claim the mantel of the "smartest kid in the dumb row."

He made his choice and his present level of bitterness leads any non ALS member to wonder if he doesn't regret it.


He told me at a Score event before he got the show with Terry ( we had mutual friends ) that he was headed to NY - that was were he wanted to end up, doing play by play on TV. He was - and still is - incredibly jealous and bitter of Mike Greenberg ( who DB believes isn;t as good as he is).


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I assume they will have pics of the 15th up on that shit website of all WBBM properties, but once again, WSCR run like a bad frat house. Freshman, who dont know shit do all the work, 5th year seniors sometimes get involved and really only a few guys run the place and when they are lame, the place becomes lame.

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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



It is a conversation that was had with him by at least one person.

Keep moving up professionally.

Or stay here and claim the mantel of the "smartest kid in the dumb row."

He made his choice and his present level of bitterness leads any non ALS member to wonder if he doesn't regret it.


He told me at a Score event before he got the show with Terry ( we had mutual friends ) that he was headed to NY - that was were he wanted to end up, doing play by play on TV. He was - and still is - incredibly jealous and bitter of Mike Greenberg ( who DB believes isn;t as good as he is).


Agree with his thoughts on Greenie, but once again the unquantifable factor or just being cool, normal and not a asshole wins.

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Bernstein reminds me a bit of Adam Carolla - as in they are both talented guys, but their crappy attitudes and incredibly awful treatment/dismissive opinions of their fanbase have impacted their trajectories.

Much like Greenberg, and other arguably less talented people that have "moved on" past where Dan has settled in, Adam has guys like Dr. Drew and (more specifically) Jimmy Kimmel to point at. If you really give Carolla a listen, especially his Loveline/early radio days, it's indisputable how much funnier of a guy he is than Kimmel - but Kimmel is incredibly gracious and, well, not a dick. Adam's a dick, as is Dan, and while they HAVE had success -- I'd say it's almost in spite of themselves. If they weren't both such raging rectums on the air, I've little doubt they'd have achieved quite a bit more -- I know at least Adam takes a lot of pride in "telling it like it is, no matter what others say - and, well, it never really hurts him" -- but in both of their cases, it seems pretty obvious that others have moved on and up because they know how to treat people and/or play the game.


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Again, people are missing my point. Bernsie IMO could have been more than he is today. I always thought he would be at ESPN in some capacity.

Arguing if Bernstein is a success in life is a stupid one, arguing that he could have done more is one worth having.



It is a conversation that was had with him by at least one person.

Keep moving up professionally.

Or stay here and claim the mantel of the "smartest kid in the dumb row."

He made his choice and his present level of bitterness leads any non ALS member to wonder if he doesn't regret it.


He told me at a Score event before he got the show with Terry ( we had mutual friends ) that he was headed to NY - that was were he wanted to end up, doing play by play on TV. He was - and still is - incredibly jealous and bitter of Mike Greenberg ( who DB believes isn;t as good as he is).


Agree with his thoughts on Greenie, but once again the unquantifable factor or just being cool, normal and not a asshole wins.


Cool is a stretch. Not as much as a dork as Bernstien I agree. Greenberg went for it. I loathe that fake ass shtick but he is pro and rewarded handsomely. Dan chose a different route.


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Say what you want about Greeny but he took a chance and took the hard road to where he is today.

WHen he left for ESPN, i think he was doing ESPNews. He also took a lot of weekend slots doing radio. When Tony Bruno left ESPN and Greeny was hired I thought it would never work. Give him credit, he never took himself seriously. He allowed himself to become the butt of jokes and played the nerd persona to the letter. Would Bernstein allow himself to be the butt of jokes?

ONe thing that Greeny has done his whole career is be a smart radio/tv host w/o telling the world that he is smart and trying to show off (yes he says he is from Northwestern but that is the extent of his "bragging). Bernstein, on the other hand, goes out of his way to act like the smartest guy in the room. Early in his career (as a fill-in host, beat guy) he never did that.

Bernstein can be jealous all he wants of Greenie. The fact remains that millions wake-up to Greeny and Golic daily and he is a household name that is a likable guy. Dan Bernstein is a local sports radio host who no one outside the metro area knows who the fuck he is, a guy that can't even beat his competition.


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Give him credit, he never took himself seriously. He allowed himself to become the butt of jokes and played the nerd persona to the letter. Would Bernstein allow himself to be the butt of jokes?

Has he ever? There's never been an equal give-and-take when it comes to ball-busting. They took their shots at Murph, at North, at Mac, at Grobstein, even at Mully and Hanley, but they've never dished it back as much. Poor Les doesn't deal it at all. When they did, like Murph sarcastically calling B&B "team players," that just really made shit really ugly, like how dare you draw attention to the fact that they're not team players.

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ONe thing that Greeny has done his whole career is be a smart radio/tv host w/o telling the world that he is smart and trying to show off (yes he says he is from Northwestern but that is the extent of his "bragging). Bernstein, on the other hand, goes out of his way to act like the smartest guy in the room. Early in his career (as a fill-in host, beat guy) he never did that.

It's only been in the last few years that Dan has been laying it on this thick. It seems to coincide with wall-to-wall Bears coverage and the execrable Matt Bowen.

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Greenie is comfortable in his own skin and able to laugh at himself. He is also sincerely gracious to others and a person you would want to share a beer or a meal with. It's sports for the most part and he doesn't get too caught up in it.

Bernsie is the polar opposite of everything I mentioned.

The thing that blows my mind is that he has an utter disregard for most of his listeners. And talks down to them directly.
But he is defended and ALSed here by the same people he does this to on a daily basis who are so soft in between the ears that they believe that he isn't talking down to them.

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ONe thing that Greeny has done his whole career is be a smart radio/tv host w/o telling the world that he is smart and trying to show off (yes he says he is from Northwestern but that is the extent of his "bragging). Bernstein, on the other hand, goes out of his way to act like the smartest guy in the room. Early in his career (as a fill-in host, beat guy) he never did that.


In his early days at the station, whenever he talked about something that happened in college, instead of saying "In college..." or "When I was in college..." like 99% of the population would do he would always say "At Duke..." or "When I was at Duke..." He just had to let everyone know where he went to school.

He would often take a more intellectual slant on topics that no one else at the station had done at that point, but he didn't take anywhere near the authoritative tone that he does now. He'd say something along the lines of "Maybe someone who's a lawyer will call in to clarify, but I think..."

I'm sure he still rubbed a lot of people the wrong way back then. Buffone didn't call him "Mr. Dictionary Face" or "A.L.C." (annoying little Caller Bob/cocksucker...not sure what the "C" really stood for as they obviously couldn't say it on the air) for nothing, but he's not even the same guy now that he was then.


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Hatchetman wrote:
makes more money
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what more is there?


I can't turn around a 90mph heater.

I take it to right.

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makes more money
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what more is there?


I can't turn around a 90mph heater.

I take it to right.


What happens if she breaks the weight limit? Has Bernstein ever said?


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Terry Boers has to have one of the worst contracts (in terms of value for the station) of any host in America. He is the Alfonso Soriano of sports radio. He adds nothing.


The show could be Bernsie solo, with sound drops of odd noises from Terry. Nobody would know the difference.

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Bernstein reminds me a bit of Adam Carolla - as in they are both talented guys, but their crappy attitudes and incredibly awful treatment/dismissive opinions of their fanbase have impacted their trajectories.

Much like Greenberg, and other arguably less talented people that have "moved on" past where Dan has settled in, Adam has guys like Dr. Drew and (more specifically) Jimmy Kimmel to point at. If you really give Carolla a listen, especially his Loveline/early radio days, it's indisputable how much funnier of a guy he is than Kimmel - but Kimmel is incredibly gracious and, well, not a dick. Adam's a dick, as is Dan, and while they HAVE had success -- I'd say it's almost in spite of themselves. If they weren't both such raging rectums on the air, I've little doubt they'd have achieved quite a bit more -- I know at least Adam takes a lot of pride in "telling it like it is, no matter what others say - and, well, it never really hurts him" -- but in both of their cases, it seems pretty obvious that others have moved on and up because they know how to treat people and/or play the game.



I could not disagree with you more on Carolla. Yes he bitches alot but the guy is TRULY appreciative of his listeners and his following. He is doing a fucking podcast...he has to be!!! Geez it seems Howard Stern appreciates his listeners more than Dan...Dan only seems to when it serves his agenda that day or week.


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Different between the two: Carolla doesn't try to equivocate by saying his radio persona is a "bit." I believe you'd get the same Carolla whether it's on or off air.

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I had a big day on Friday and missed all of this entirely without giving it a thought. I'll read through this thread but I am going to assume I'll end up blissful in my ignorance.

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