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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:17 pm 
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Jesse Jackson getting booed off for asking for donations for church. #Ferguson


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: Maybe something good will come of this after all .

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Jesse Jackson getting booed off for asking for donations for church. #Ferguson


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess he could be stumping for Feed My Starving Bastard Children too.

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No. I was testing. Cuz you can't post in the Spiegel section. But I noticed people were posting here.

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More like an unHappy mealin Ferguson, amirite?

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Multiple reports of Jessie being booed off stage, good for them!

https://twitter.com/zellieimani/status/500721995323949058/photo/1

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Multiple reports of Jessie being booed off stage, good for them!

https://twitter.com/zellieimani/status/500721995323949058/photo/1

BREAKING NEWS!

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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What is the protocol for police if someone is high on PCP

Im not joking. There are times where some crazy biker dude is on PCP and it takes like 6 different cops to stop him.

What does a cop do on the street? Does a tazer even take those guys down?



An Officer is to escalate the use of force as needed. You want to ideally handle the situation using minimal force and without the use of any weapon. Unfortunately, there are a lot more women and men of smaller stature on Police forces today, that are unable to effectively control a larger, stronger suspect. Thus, their use of force gets escalated, just so they can attempt to handle the individual. This can cause greater resistance from the perp, who may resent the officer using a weapon, pepper spray, etc..

Again, you should begin by trying to handle things without a weapon, but you can then progress to the use of pepper spray, then a tazer, and finally to your service weapon. We had night sticks when I first joined the force. But many departments (including ours)have done away with them. I still have my old one, that I kept after we did away with them. Yes, you do learn how to disable someone pretty effectively, but your question about someone on PCP is a good one. We had a guy fight with4 officers after he was in an accident and was told he was going to be charged with DUI. He got real messed up but didn't feel much till the next morning. You just deal with the situation on the level you need to. If someone is cooperative, there is no need for any great force. Using force greater than needed can have a very negative reaction that can result in a negative experience for either/both parties.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Multiple reports of Jessie being booed off stage, good for them!

https://twitter.com/zellieimani/status/500721995323949058/photo/1

BREAKING NEWS!



He got booed off stage after soliciting donations for the NAACP.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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The incompetence of local law enforcement was primary reason.


No, the lying witnesses and the liberal press who chose to inflame the dimwitted citizens are to blame.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Personally I believe things are primarily being overstated by 1 side. From the video that had nothing to do with the shooting to the talk of widespread looting that has been debunked by media on the ground. Mike Brown and the African American citizens of Ferguson have been put on trial in an attempt to justify the shooting and the over the top military response. It's working too.
My point is just that the real issues are getting overlooked based on these other less important developments. I'm not blaming the citizens of Ferguson for being fed up either. It's just a shame that the conversation isn't focused more on the real long term issues and less on riots and getting the name of the policeman.



Like I said days ago, nobody is going to listen to them now, as they are branded thieves/looters and vandals. Thus their message (for those who might have one and not be just using this incident as an excuse to loot) is lost and falls on deaf ears.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Nelly apparently has joined the protestors.
Did he bring the St. Lunatics?

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Like I said days ago, nobody is going to listen to them now, as they are branded thieves/looters and vandals. Thus their message (for those who might have one and not be just using this incident as an excuse to loot) is lost and falls on deaf ears.
You weren't going to listen no matter what though.

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Like I said days ago, nobody is going to listen to them now, as they are branded thieves/looters and vandals. Thus their message (for those who might have one and not be just using this incident as an excuse to loot) is lost and falls on deaf ears.
You weren't going to listen no matter what though.


That is not entirely true. I would listen. In the end I might (would) dismiss their complaints, because I don't care that they are disenfranchised, but I would listen and consider their complaints. It's just stupid that they behave the way they have, because those who would listen and might affect change, will not as a result of the way they have behaved (all the looting/vandalism and violence) since the shooting. Had they assembled peacefully and without the looting and vandalism, their message would have been better received. I'm glad they have behaved like animals. It means no change will come and it will cause them to be viewed in a negative light once again. It serves to reinforce negative stereotypes and that works for me.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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In the end I might (would) dismiss their complaints, because I don't care that they are disenfranchised, but I would listen and consider their complaints.


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In the end I might (would) dismiss their complaints, because I don't care that they are disenfranchised, but I would listen and consider their complaints.


this sentence gives me a headache

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That's fucking great. What the fuck, Steve?


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Wrong Steve, you have heard the message ...the Entire world has...the Feds are doing their own autopsy .

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Like I said days ago, nobody is going to listen to them now, as they are branded thieves/looters and vandals. Thus their message (for those who might have one and not be just using this incident as an excuse to loot) is lost and falls on deaf ears.
You weren't going to listen no matter what though.


That is not entirely true. I would listen. In the end I might (would) dismiss their complaints, because I don't care that they are disenfranchised, but I would listen and consider their complaints. It's just stupid that they behave the way they have, because those who would listen and might affect change, will not as a result of the way they have behaved (all the looting/vandalism and violence) since the shooting. Had they assembled peacefully and without the looting and vandalism, their message would have been better received. I'm glad they have behaved like animals. It means no change will come and it will cause them to be viewed in a negative light once again. It serves to reinforce negative stereotypes and that works for me.
I'm not trying to tell you how to post, but it is poor form to start a post with "That is not entirely true" and then use the rest of the post to confirm that it is in fact entirely true.

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I love Rick.

Steve uses his post to declare for the umpteenth time that he is a racist prick, and Rick lectures him about his argument structure.

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So now there is protests in favor of the officer who shot Michael Brown? Yikes...

People on one side are angry and want a full investigation and the facts of the incident to be found, and the other side is arguing for what? A cover up, and no investigation?

I don't get it.

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So now there is protests in favor of the officer who shot Michael Brown? Yikes...

People on one side are angry and want a full investigation and the facts of the incident to be found, and the other side is arguing for what? A cover up, and no investigation?

I don't get it.


They believe that the cop is being wrongly attacked. As RPB mentioned there are those who want to find any reason to support the cop and others that would still side with the kid if he shot at the cop and got killed.

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So now there is protests in favor of the officer who shot Michael Brown? Yikes...

People on one side are angry and want a full investigation and the facts of the incident to be found, and the other side is arguing for what? A cover up, and no investigation?

I don't get it.


They believe that the cop is being wrongly attacked. As RPB mentioned there are those who want to find any reason to support the cop and others that would still side with the kid if he shot at the cop and got killed.

And its been leaning more and more that way.

The video of the robbery was a turning point in public opinion.


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