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No. You see only the small picture.

Police and the black community in general have a long history. An unarmed man was killed by a police officer. No one has any idea whether his race played into the equation, but the reaction and perspectives absolutely have taken it into account. The black community feels as though the shooting was minimized and covered up more easily because it was a poor, black community. They have lots of historical reason to believe this. They also feel as though their peaceful protests were quelled because of their race and/or socioeconomic status.

Do you disagree with any of this analysis?

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I tried to tell him this and was met with jeers.

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What would you say if Mike Brown's fingerprints aren't on the gun or if someone has video of the cop shooting him while his hands were in the air? This cop may or may not have cared if he was black but the police in that area have been guilty of harassing and targeting blacks. This is true in many places in this country.

Well going for his gun doesn't mean he got his hands or fingers on it to leave prints. Im not being deliberately obtuse here but the town is 75% black. Wouldn't it stand to reason that blacks would make up the majority of the arrests, police encounters, tickets , harassment etc ?

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I tried to tell him this and was met with jeers.


Such jeers can easily be met with the cheeks of my ass.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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What would you say if Mike Brown's fingerprints aren't on the gun or if someone has video of the cop shooting him while his hands were in the air? This cop may or may not have cared if he was black but the police in that area have been guilty of harassing and targeting blacks. This is true in many places in this country.

Well going for his gun doesn't mean he got his hands or fingers on it to leave prints. Im not being deliberately obtuse here but the town is 75% black. Wouldn't it stand to reason that blacks would make up the majority of the arrests, police encounters, tickets , harassment etc ?


i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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I tried to tell him this and was met with jeers.


Such jeers can easily be met with the cheeks of my ass.


I hope this is a figure of speech.

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i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


I bet few of them live there too.

I was on a job interview back in my job interviewing days, where the college had a rule: if you work for the college, you live in the town. I don't know how they could be allowed to enforce it (private school being allowed to make its own rules?) however, they did it to encourage town and gown relations (it did! From what I saw and have seen since, there is a positive relationship between the campus and community). I wonder if they had this rule for police officers (I KNOW it can never happen, but what about getting paid more if you live in town?) if that would help? Well, I know it would help, but it could never happen.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


I bet few of them live there too.

I was on a job interview back in my job interviewing days, where the college had a rule: if you work for the college, you live in the town. I don't know how they could be allowed to enforce it (private school being allowed to make its own rules?) however, they did it to encourage town and gown relations (it did! From what I saw and have seen since, there is a positive relationship between the campus and community). I wonder if they had this rule for police officers (I KNOW it can never happen, but what about getting paid more if you live in town?) if that would help? Well, I know it would help, but it could never happen.


Hey let's leave the sociology to an expert, okay?

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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W_Z wrote:
i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


I bet few of them live there too.

I was on a job interview back in my job interviewing days, where the college had a rule: if you work for the college, you live in the town. I don't know how they could be allowed to enforce it (private school being allowed to make its own rules?) however, they did it to encourage town and gown relations (it did! From what I saw and have seen since, there is a positive relationship between the campus and community). I wonder if they had this rule for police officers (I KNOW it can never happen, but what about getting paid more if you live in town?) if that would help? Well, I know it would help, but it could never happen.


Hey let's leave the sociology to an expert, okay?

How dare you!
That's Social Psychology in action, sociologists don't solve anything that just point out problems, shrug their shoulders and move on.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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Psycory wrote:
W_Z wrote:
i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


I bet few of them live there too.

I was on a job interview back in my job interviewing days, where the college had a rule: if you work for the college, you live in the town. I don't know how they could be allowed to enforce it (private school being allowed to make its own rules?) however, they did it to encourage town and gown relations (it did! From what I saw and have seen since, there is a positive relationship between the campus and community). I wonder if they had this rule for police officers (I KNOW it can never happen, but what about getting paid more if you live in town?) if that would help? Well, I know it would help, but it could never happen.


Hey let's leave the sociology to an expert, okay?


typical DMDD response...classic narcissism.


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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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I tried to tell him this and was met with jeers.


Such jeers can easily be met with the cheeks of my ass.

I did consider it but out of spite I didn't do it. I will incorporate it into the game plan but my purpose is not to write the best story ever told. It's a message board. I didn't know I was writing a master's thesis.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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What would you say if Mike Brown's fingerprints aren't on the gun or if someone has video of the cop shooting him while his hands were in the air? This cop may or may not have cared if he was black but the police in that area have been guilty of harassing and targeting blacks. This is true in many places in this country.

Well going for his gun doesn't mean he got his hands or fingers on it to leave prints. Im not being deliberately obtuse here but the town is 75% black. Wouldn't it stand to reason that blacks would make up the majority of the arrests, police encounters, tickets , harassment etc ?


It's not just that town. It's the entire area that's blacks and other minorities. Ferguson isn't a place like Chicago where people are getting killed left and right. It's a lot of petty crime. Only 20 people have been killed in 15 years and Mike Brown was the first person murdered this year. By the numbers a higher percentage of whites are caught with drugs and weapons but the overwhelming majority of the stops are for blacks.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


I bet few of them live there too.

I was on a job interview back in my job interviewing days, where the college had a rule: if you work for the college, you live in the town. I don't know how they could be allowed to enforce it (private school being allowed to make its own rules?) however, they did it to encourage town and gown relations (it did! From what I saw and have seen since, there is a positive relationship between the campus and community). I wonder if they had this rule for police officers (I KNOW it can never happen, but what about getting paid more if you live in town?) if that would help? Well, I know it would help, but it could never happen.


Hey let's leave the sociology to an expert, okay?


typical DMDD response...classic narcissism.


I am not a sociologist.

My wife, however, is a psychologist, and I might get her on to respond now that Darkside's wife has inspired me.

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Where is the NRA? Isn't this the type of story they should love?

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Try paragraphs.


I tried to tell him this and was met with jeers.


Such jeers can easily be met with the cheeks of my ass.

I did consider it but out of spite I didn't do it. I will incorporate it into the game plan but my purpose is not to write the best story ever told. It's a message board. I didn't know I was writing a master's thesis.


It doesn't need a thesis. Just press enter a couple times.

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Where is the NRA? Isn't this the type of story they should love?

You are not the only one asking:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/why-isn-t-the-nra-defending-ferguson-s-blacks.html

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I am not a sociologist.

My wife, however, is a psychologist, and I might get her on to respond now that Darkside's wife has inspired me.


i'm just kidding. although i probably could pass for a quack doctor in some cases.


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i think i read that the problem is that the police force, on the other hand, is predominantly white. so...it looks bad.


I bet few of them live there too.

I was on a job interview back in my job interviewing days, where the college had a rule: if you work for the college, you live in the town. I don't know how they could be allowed to enforce it (private school being allowed to make its own rules?) however, they did it to encourage town and gown relations (it did! From what I saw and have seen since, there is a positive relationship between the campus and community). I wonder if they had this rule for police officers (I KNOW it can never happen, but what about getting paid more if you live in town?) if that would help? Well, I know it would help, but it could never happen.


Chicago has that rule and they actually come out and check.

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 Post subject: Re: St Louis Looters
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SO anyway.

I don't think anyone can arbitrarily decide that you're not protesting correctly if you're not moving; it isn't a fucking parade.

I haven't seen one picture or video ... and we know how difficult it is to get imagery passed around these days ... of one single, solitary Molotov cocktail that was remotely in the vicinity of anyone and everyone that's been gassed or shot with less lethal weaponry.

How doubleplusgood a phrase is Less Lethal, by the way?

Did anyone else see the video from this morning with the metrosexual mayor of the cosmopolitan city of Ferguson straight-faced saying there are no racial tensions or divides in "his" city? I mean, it was just like that fella way back when during the Iraq invasion who stood on TV and said everything's fine and the American's are nowhere nearby when in actuality they were roughly a block away or something.

I think we can all agree with the rush to lethal justice for Mike Brown and the call for time and careful consideration for the process for Officer whosits are not in any way a source of cognitive dissonance.

It's perfectly normal to unload a gun into a large black man charging at you ... didn't anyone see the opening scene from The Last Boyscout? Assuming he was charging at the guy.

Would love to see some APCs and folks with glassed-up rifles waltz through some local streets and threaten the ease with which some local citizens can get their Jimmy John's fix; I mean, just stay home.

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I tried to tell him this and was met with jeers.


Such jeers can easily be met with the cheeks of my ass.

I did consider it but out of spite I didn't do it. I will incorporate it into the game plan but my purpose is not to write the best story ever told. It's a message board. I didn't know I was writing a master's thesis.


Hey, I get how hard it is to hit the 'return' key.

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didn't anyone see the opening scene from The Last Boyscout?


ain't life a bitch?

(didn't realize that was billy blanks all these years)

the NRA question's a good one.


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Goddamnit Don stop copying me. Before long, people will accuse you of being brilliant.

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Where is the NRA? Isn't this the type of story they should love?

You are not the only one asking:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/19/why-isn-t-the-nra-defending-ferguson-s-blacks.html


Well I guess I will continue throwing away their marketing material requesting donations from me since they only care about 1 group of people.

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Goddamnit Don stop copying me. Before long, people will accuse you of being brilliant.


Did I copy you? Sorry. I just felt as though I was channeling Sneed. :lol:

What part(s)?

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Ha. No worries - the outrage was feigned. I said something about him hitting enter a few times a few posts back.

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Ha. No worries - the outrage was feigned. I said something about him hitting enter a few times a few posts back.


Oh; I thought you meant my screed.

I presumed you meant others jeered you for it, not him ... probably wouldn't have said anything if I'd thought it was just him you were referring to; I wasn't really looking to fuck with him about it. Just seems if you're gonna write that much, you might consider doing the reader a small courtesy and make 2 or 3 extra keystrokes.

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I didn't know that I was unfamiliar with the ways in which word processors are used. Thanks for the enlightenment.

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I didn't know that I was unfamiliar with the ways in which word processors are used. Thanks for the enlightenment.


Okay there champ; I just said my 'ass cheeks' post wasn't with you in mind to begin with. Don't make it something it isn't.

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