Not every departments have tazers. A small (poor) town is unlikely to have them. Mace might not get the job done and this is a 300 pound individual who has already gone for his gun.

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Really? You think that the cigar wrapper this guy stole is more a threat to society than the $2 billion price tag of the S&L scandal that all Americans had to pay for, or the billions pilfered by Enron, Worldcom, and Tyco, or the billions in theft covered up by Arthur Anderson or the hundreds of millions stolen by Berne Madoff?
I think those fantastic white collar crimes are tremendously more a threat to society. Those crimes cost us hundreds of thousands of jobs and even the biggest of big dopes know that a contributing factor to violent crime is joblessness. Not to mention the price tags handed to taxpayers.
I can only assume you're trolling for responses because I don't think that it's literally possible for someone to be this stupid.

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If a department can afford multiple military vehicles and other military equipment then they should be able to afford a few tasers

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hopefully this cop will get scape-goated for all of societies ills, he'll get the electric chair, and we can all cheer that justice was served.

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Who is asking for that? Why do you feel that way?

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Or cameras on every officer.

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Winner winner chicken dinner!

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Well, I think they get that shit for nothing or next to nothing. The big problem is that police often fail to see themselves as part of the community they are policing (That's obviously the case in Ferguson.), and they see their fellow citizens as an enemy. The military gear simply lets them act out those bad thoughts to a greater degree.

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What? I don't know how clear anyone can be on this: ALL ANYONE IS ASKING FOR IS A TRANSPARENT AND HONEST INVESTIGATION.

What is it that you dislike about transparent and honest investigations of police officers or any other citizen? I look forward to your response.

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I also know that not every town has this type of equipment, but surriounding communities might. I know the town I live in doesn't have any but a couple of the towns around us do.

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I believe that I read the cost of that is only $25k a year for a police department the size of Ferguson's.

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Yes. It's more mental than anything. It's not that I necessarily think they are going to use tanks to blow up city streets (though nothing would be surprising). It's that it adds to their attitude that they are judge, jury, and executioner. It gives them more fuel to think that they are above the law.

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#1 best-seller in stun guns !

the fact that amazon has a department for stun guns is just a little terrifying, but i digress

Of course they do. by in large, the people who they interact with see the cops as the enemy.

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True. They're usually free on very cheap. I thought there was cost associated with the maintenance of the vehicles and other military equipment.

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Oh I'm sure they've got a great deal down at the local Maaco or Earl Scheib or wherever.

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Some departments do not issue tasers because they fear litigation stemming from their use. People with heart issues have died after being tased. We did not have them for that reason. I know there have been a number of cases where tasers were used where it was deemed unnecessary and excessive use of force. Not every department wants them for those reasons.

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The Attorney General of the United States is headed down there! What more do people want? This is going to be the most scrutinized case in history!

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I just found out that the gun store down the street from where I live is who sold the Lanza (sp?) kid his gun before he went postal on that Elementary School. I pass by it every day. Kind of creepy.

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And do you think it would have been an honest and transparent investigation BEFORE people started protesting and national attention was brought to it?

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If an officer sees me as a threat one day I would prefer that he use a taser instead of 6 bullets. Something tells me my odds of survival are better. I understand the fear of abuse and litigation.

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A good chance not. But if that was their goal it was achieved like a week ago.

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Chicken and the Egg

so who's at fault?

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No, I dont know. Id think criminals probably started it but who knows

The difference being that those people aren't generally armed to the teeth and acting like complete fucking douchebags.

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That is my essential point. Police that overstep their authority is nothing new. My problem with this entire issue is that it becomes the cause celebre for people that have racial agendas that they wish to promote. That is what the protesters were doing. Sure there may have been some concern for the victim but shootings like these occur in low income neighborhoods on a weekly basis. The hypocrisy of the protesters,with all of their calls for justice, is amusing because most if asked probably have seen violent acts perpetrated and will refuse to say anything because of some stupid street policy known as no snitching. Rappers have actually been quoted advising people to not snitch. Kids walk around with idiotic phrases such as snitches get stitches.

Police brutality is an important issue and the historical legacy of Racism practiced by the police should not be overlooked. I'm am much more concerned about the forces that led the kid to think he had to steal or take to get what he wanted. The racists forces that deprive African Americans of scarce resources are far more damning than this random act of violence. This Elmhurst Steve guy with his racists views is also insignificant because he doesn't control anything. What is he denying African Americans, a paint job. Donald Sterling and people of his ilk are of far greater concern because they run and control things. They have the authority to effect and the focus on social injustices deviates from what is of greater concern and that is economic injustice.

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Man, that is crazy. I can tell you that where I worked we didn't feel that way. We saw the town as our town. We protected our citizens. If you lived in town and got pulled over for a minor traffic violation (say-speeding but not more than 15 MPH over) and lived in town, you probably got a verbal warning. If you did not live in town, you got a ticket. We patrolled our neighborhoods like crazy, to make sure to prevent burglaries and other crimes that might otherwise occur. When we saw "undesirables" around, we made sure they knew they were not welcome, because we wanted to keep the town nice. We went to the schools and met the kids and took their fingerprints and photos, so if they should ever turn up missing, we had those things at hand. We crossed kids at 2 school intersections in the morning and afternoon and got to know the kids by name and they saw us as their friends, not their enemy. As a result, when we asked for their help, if they had any information, they gave it to us. I don't know where you live and how the police there operate, but I suspect you are projecting your own negative feelings toward the Police. That's just sad.

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That's a basic human policy that cuts across all races, classes, and neighborhoods. Just ask the Daley family.

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