Digital Bears/Sports Reporter...Dan Durkin.


Boom.

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I'm pretty sure he's also my state senator.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I've watched pretty much every Illini football game for the last 30 years. Hell, I played basketball against Doug Higgins!

And I had no idea this guy was a former Illini punter.

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You know me like that.

Chief Empty Cup? I mean Grote. Damn I got caught up in the redskins think.

Post of the Month.

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CSFMB 2014 Nascar Pick 'em Champion

We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

There you have it folks.

Doug will be joining meat

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--yet I can't look away."

I was really hoping that while Meatpants was in Vegas, Mitch would bounce him from the mid day show.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

i posted this in the phil simms douchebag thread.

At one point I thought that gay marriage shouldn't be allowed. I used the civil unions are good enough argument until I realized just how dumb that is. I changed my mind.

Does that make me a bad person for jumping on the bandwagon of a cause I didn't support since I was born? Should I have used the rationale that "things exist as they exist so they should exist forever" line of thinking?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

you're still not getting it, brick.

I'm really not. Your point is either that he can't say things now because he didn't say things in the past, or that he can't say things now because he isn't going far enough.

The problem cannot be that you are upset that he is making public statements about it since it is still a hotly contested issue and he is still in the minority of media members who are taking a stand against it.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

changing the name means nothing if the treatment of the people is going to remain the same. there are even native americans who feel this way. change the name because you want to improve the livelihood of native americans. not to mention, the washington redskins isn't the only team that bears that name.

It is progress though. It won't fix every issue but it isn't designed to.

Letting women vote didn't fix the way women were treated either. That doesn't mean it wasn't the right thing to do at the time.

It may be a small step, but it is inarguably the right step.

When you really get down to it, the discussion here is "Should we use racial slurs?" and Phil Simms answer is "No". What a douchebag.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

but it's not like redskin has ever been an acceptable way of referring to a native american. personally i think even calling them indians is derogatory, but that may never change.

if it does change things, that would be great. the way that some of these broadcasters like simms are going about it just seems disingenuous. they've known the name forever, been around it, and known that it's a hurtful image and name. they've done nothing about it before and simply saying "i'm not going to say the name" doesn't change anything either.

Not sure I agree with that.

That is why it should be changed though. Indians probably should be changed too but at least that is not a physical description.

The major problem here is that the NFL is refusing to do the obvious. It may seem like grandstanding but that is because the answer is so clear here to everyone but the NFL. I think everyone here would agree that women should be able to vote but if the government were still saying they couldn't then the actual issue would be far from settled.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Zach, what is the prudent thing for Phil Simms to do here?

I have no problem with what Simms is doing. He is not the type I was referring to.

As usual, the person who is irritating about it is Bernstein. First, he comes off as disingenuous since he had no problem using racial or homophobic slurs for years. Second, he is starting to become the boy who cried wolf. Every single issue he takes a hard line on makes every single issue from the past or future seem that much less important. I'm tired of hearing about his crusades. Same with many other people out there... just make your opinion be heard and then shut up about it. There's no need to continue to go on about such things as though use of the word "Redskins" is somehow making you lose sleep at night. Again, it's disingenuous. I do think they should change the name, but I can't stand some of these people out there who choose to get so upset over every little thing in the big, bad world.

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white guilt. bernstein is carrying the burden of white america's sins. what a saint. be more appreciative leash.

you're right about that (that it always looks like grandstanding when it's obvious); what i'm skeptical about is that there have been tons of name changes before, and mascot changes on the college and high school level, and nothing has changed as far as legislation for native american rights. sure, it removes the stereotype. but if they're continued to be shirked and put aside i just don't see how changing the name of a sports team changes anything. sure, it should change perception but i don't really see evidence of that. like i said, "redskins" has always been derogatory. it's not like in 2014 it's more derogatory than it was in 1932. it's meant the same thing. it's always stood for the same thing. white people knew it was racist back then, too, they just didn't care. so if they care now, they should be doing things for native americans that makes them feel like they're a part of this country too.

the indians thing is...it's just stupid. i mean it makes us look stupid to keep calling them that. by this point i think they've realized the white man isn't going to get it and they've accepted being called "american indians" but it still sounds dumb. they're not indians. and so we have indians from india that are called indian americans, and "native" indians here called american indians.

i'm w_z, and this has been a cbs sports minute.

rpb, phil simms has had his whole career to understand a very simple, obvious point. he really doesn't need to be "recognized" just because he's "taking a stand", which is the easiest "stand" to take. so fine, he's not going to say it anymore. i'm not giving him props for that.

I agree it won't solve any every day problems.

Who knows though, maybe this will lead to Phil Simms eventually saving every Native American?

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i will retire the impression at that point.

Well, I don't think "Indians" in and of itself is derogatory. If you add Chief Wahoo to it, sure it is. But the mere use of the word Indians or a tribal name like Illini or Seminoles or Sioux is simply an nod to the history of an area and the people of said area. That's a long way from "Redskins" which can't be seen as anything but a slur, the semi-coherent ramblings of Mike Ditka aside.

But I don't think refusing to call them what they currently are is the answer. If an announcer or a referee finds the actions of the NFL so offensive, he should stop working for the NFL. But to continue to take that dirty NFL money and not calling one of its teams by name or refusing to work games with that one team comes off as phony.

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Isn't that kind of like saying that if you don't like what our government is doing then move to a different one?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Not really. Regular Reader and I got into this a little earlier this week. And his position was "why should a man have to quit his job?" But in this instance we aren't talking about some minimum wage guy taking a stand against the evil corporation that employs him. We're talking about some rich motherfucker that could well afford to take such a stand if he really wanted to, if he really believed in what he was saying.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yes they should change the name from Redskins. But the problem I have is all these armchair crusaders will then just forget about the plight of the Native Americans in this country. All this grandstanding by media members and they never mention the clusterfucks that are American Indian reservations. High rates of suicide, drug and alcohol abuse, domestic abuse, and sexual assault. And these things are governed by tribal bodies where the state and federal government often cannot interfere and often do not want to interfere

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Back off, Warchild. Seriously.

because this problem couldn't be simpler to solve. all it takes is some rich asshole to say "OK."

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

This.

The name Redskins is a disgrace but it's ultimately so trivial among the litany of issues Native Americans face. In my mind the Redskins thing shouldn't even be an issue. It's a dumb name, change it and let's be done with it already. The phony bluster on both sides of the argument is annoying.

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So is it your opinion that you are only allowed to be offended by things or comments which directly apply to you?

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