That too.

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Brian Kelly going full Captain Renault in his reaction to the academic misconduct. They have only 3 legit road games (ASU, FSU, and USC) this season. They're playing Purdue in Indy, Syracuse in East Rutherford, and Navy in Landover. I could see them going 9-3 or 10-2. Probably lose to Stanford and Florida St. Could also see ASU and USC beating them.

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Back off, Warchild. Seriously.

http://deadspin.com/notre-dame-was-never-special-and-never-will-be-1624521480

By the way, Notre Dame's helmets aren't that nice.

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The first four words of the headline being ridiculously false kinda hurts the article.

Notre Dame has always been involved in shady dealings though.

What time period were they not? It certainly wasn't since Lou Holtz came on board. The early history of Notre Dame football is filled with shady dealings(though this was pretty much every college).

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That's not what Im saying.

Its a misleading headline if that's the point. Obviously there has been some "special" aspects to the program over their history

No one clickbaits like Drew Magary. "Something You Like Is Shitty And Always Was And So Are You," followed by a bunch of poop jokes and how the world will be hard for him to explain to his son.

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Well, they certainly have some things that are unique, but the Domers like to think they are somehow different than many other programs. That is what he is referring to I believe.

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He should have used the term "better" than


The headline reads like they're a run of the mill college football team

That's a relatively recent development.

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Don't take it personally.

Undefeated in 2013

Notre Dame has pushed a narrative that they are "special" compared to every other college football team. They aren't using special to say they aren't a run of the mill college football team. They use it to put down Michigan, OSU, Alabama, USC, and other traditional powers too.

That is obvious when you break down what his actual points are in the article.

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There is something special about Notre Dame football. The on-field side of things has gotten pretty mundane, and they're just as knee-deep in the filth if not more (rape, scaffolds) but having a national following based on ethnicity and/or religion certainly does set you apart from Michigan, etc.

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Right. The narrative is that Notre Dame's undefeated season comes against the monumental odds of doing things "the right way". Where an Alabama or an Oklahoma simply suits up the most vicious wang-whipping rapists and murderers and/or future NFL All-Stars they can find, Notre Dame is countering them with future doctors and Supreme Court justices.

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Who does Notre Dame thinking they are, Northwestern?

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But I didnt read it, because the headline is stupid, misleading, and wrong

Im sure the article makes sense. Headline is bad.

You think it's still like that?

Certainly that was true in the past but havent heard much of it lately

Oh, well if you didn't read the article then I will trust your opinion on it.

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I havent commented on the article. Nothing to trust or distrust.

I commented on the clearly stupid headline

No, I don't think it's like that. I'm not even sure it ever was. But the Notre Dame people like to think so. That's the point.

And just so we're clear, I was raised to be a Notre Dame person too.

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The article explains the headline though.

The answers you seek are in the article. You don't have to guess what it meant.

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Not what I meant.

I think the arrogance and thinking they are better is largely a thing of the past. The cloak has been pulled off for a while now.

Maybe its still there and I just ignore it cause its ridiculous (to think they are BETTER)

Im not seeking answers though. I just think its a dumb headline.

I dont think ND is special and never have. My love for ND comes from the whole "irish catholic" thing. Nothing to do with academics.

The article you didn't read has quotes from important people that indicate otherwise.

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Well they're idiots then. I dont need to read about it. I concede it.

He's absolutely right about Notre Dame, though.

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Oh, without question. Notre Dame sucks. But it is a special suck.

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Except the headline

Well said.

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The Bulls haven't done anything wrong, and they're not going to do anything wrong.

ND does have two former players who are supreme court justices.

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And men have lost their reason.