I miss Beckham's glove already

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Hawk is melting down over an obstruction call that wasn't called or really even a factor in the play.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
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This team is a fuckin joke. Any day now Hahn can get his head out of his ass and shit can these worthless piles of shit De Aza and Viciedp. He can give Dunn his walking papers too. Wake up, fuckhead.

Hawk went off after Viciedo dropped that easy fly ball... Yanks just tied it with 3 unearned runs now.

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"This is Chicago, my friend. Anything can happen."

So you won't put any blame on Robin, but you will put blame on Hahn?

Pathetic

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

It's funny how the wind blows for Sox Nation.

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

My wind always blows the same way. And it smells like roses too.

Hahn had a nice offseason, but so far he has been bad in season. Robin can only play the guys on the roster, but he has no reason to put Dunn in the lineup at all for the rest of the year.

This team came out of the AS break 9-5 and I thought they really might put together a pretty good second half. They have been putrid since. The Sox have the rookie of the year, a legit #1 who on a better team is probably a Cy Young candidate, a lefty #2 who has pitched overall very well, and a 3rd basemen who is quietly having a very good year.

...and with all of that, its still not much better than last year. Catch the baseball, and pitch the baseball. Sox (Hahn, and Robin) need to get those in order for next year.

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But they're a lot different than last year. Last year they couldn't score. This year they're short on pitching all around.

And Quintana is only a #2 on a really bad team. All those losses and no decisions are showing you his limitations. He is a control pitcher who can look dominating when he is hitting his spots, which he does most of the time. But he usually has an inning where he walks a guy and then he comes unglued a little bit. You look at his numbers and they're good, but he just isn't a winning type pitcher. He's the definition of an "innings eater". If he's your #4 guy, you're going to be okay.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I'm no baseball expert but I can't name one positive thing that Robin has brought to the table this year. He needs to go if the Sox really want to compete next year.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Certainly there are better #2's out there than Quintana, but there are worse as well. Again, W-L is not everything. You can't win a baseball game scoring 0 runs, and several times thru his career Quintana has gotten 0 runs scored behind him. He's 21-23 career, but he has 3.49 ERA, a 1.26 WHIP, a 2.6 K to BB ratio, and a 2.7 WAR this year despite having a 6-10 record all while pitching in the AL.

Its safe to say that Quintana has not been the reason the Sox are currently 12 games under .500.

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Quintana is definitely part of the reason the Sox are 12 games under .500.

I'm not even looking at his W/L record, although I'm sure it isn't good. I've seen almost every game he has pitched in a Sox uniform. A guy like him has to be almost perfect to win games. He doesn't have an absolute wipeout pitch that he can go to when he gets in a tough spot late in a game. He doesn't have the stuff to blow through a big league lineup three times. So after guys have seen him a couple times on the day and have a feel for all his pitches, he starts nibbling, then he walks a guy, then he gives up a hit, then the score is tied, and then you say he was unlucky and I say he is who he is.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

When Quintana leaves the game with a 1 run lead, and Matt Thornton or Javy Guerra blow the lead for him (both of which have happened at least twice, not to mention the other clowns in the 'pen who giave up leads this year and last year), yes I will say he is unlucky.

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That happens to everyone sometimes. It isn't a condition of Jose Quintana's existence. Sure, it's more likely to happen to a guy in a Sox uniform right now. Because their bullpen is so horrible. That bullpen is also part of the reason they are 12 games under. A big part.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Quintana throwing 30+ in the first today, meaning the awesome bullpen is close at hand.
Could have been over sooner but Abreu lazy asses a throw to Quintana covering first and extended the inning.

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Okay Sox fans put on your big boy pants! De Aza gone ...Flowers gone..Paulie gone.bullpen gone...Danks bros gone ...what do you have??? Sales and Abreu?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Quintana has had a great season , Hahn really fucked up by not moving Danks n De Aza . I don't really like Garcia..he reminds me of Carlos Quentin ....injury prone forever .

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No he hasn't. He's just a guy that isn't worth talking about. A back of the rotation guy on a good team. Sure, he's signed reasonably for a guy that looks durable and will give you innings without getting killed. Oh look, he's losing to the juggernaut from Cleveland in the second inning! But he isn't getting "run support"! The Sox should have thrown up 10 in the first to get him a fuckin' W.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I don't look @ wins.... E.R.A. then Innings Pitched. Whip n k-Bb ratio .

3.25 in the A.L. is pretty damn good...especially in a hitters park. if he's your 3 next year, that's a great rotation .

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Maybe you should look at wins. If his ERA number is so great, how can it be that in the games he actually pitches someone on the other team usually allows less runs? He isn't pitching against Oakland every game. And the Sox offense is 12th in baseball. So it's not like he's faced with some monumental hill to climb. He's just a pretty ordinary guy.

Don't get me wrong. You can win with a couple pitchers like him filling out your rotation. All your pitchers aren't going to be Chris Sale. But he certainly isn't better than Javy Vazquez, and people were cheering when dumbass Ozzie ran him out of town.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The CORE!!

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

No, he isn't better than anyone thinks. And Ben Zobrist isn't better than Albert Pujols, regardless of how many guys are twirling numbers to say, "Look at this! Look at me!" It's just a cottage industry.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Who would you rather have?

Pitcher 1:

H R ER BB SO W L WHIP ERA
221 104 97 73 169 17 10 1.32 3.92

Pitcher 2:

H R ER BB SO W L WHIP ERA
194 80 63 70 232 13 12 1.06 2.27

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I can't believe that was Alexei's 13th home run of the year. It feels like he hasn't hit one since April.

Oh, you're one of those.


Is that too NUMBERY for ya?

I wouldn't compare Felix Hernandez to Ervin Santana or Jose Quintana and I don't really need to check Fangraphs to know that.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

He better thank his lucky stars Jose Quintana is pitching! How else would the Sox have scored 5 runs?

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"Best" at what? All those ancillary numbers are nice, but you actually have to compete in the games you're playing in. There is an object to the game. And no matter how many websites you find to tell you otherwise, it isn't simply preventing walks and homers.

You're one of those guys. Reads websites and reguritates.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

But he won 5 more games and lost 2 fewer than Felix Hernandez. If you're in a race for a division title those seven games mean everything.

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