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Yup. Glad it is settled.

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Yup. Glad it is settled.


Seriously, and I'm not trying to incite Cub fans here, but there seems to be a big difference in the way the respective fanbases view prospects and the way the media treats prospects depending upon which team they are on. Tim Anderson was a highly regarded first round draft pick who is moving quickly through the system. I have no doubt if he were a Cub prospect he would be one of the "Core 4" or "Core 7" or whatever it is now. As a Sox fan, I've never thought much about Tim Anderson at all.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Yup. Glad it is settled.


Seriously, and I'm not trying to incite Cub fans here, but there seems to be a big difference in the way the respective fanbases view prospects and the way the media treats prospects depending upon which team they are on. Tim Anderson was a highly regarded first round draft pick who is moving quickly through the system. I have no doubt if he were a Cub prospect he would be one of the "Core 4" or "Core 7" or whatever it is now. As a Sox fan, I've never thought much about Tim Anderson at all.
I didn't know his name before today. I had to look it up because I needed to make sure the Sox actually had two good prospects and then all of a sudden Bernstein confirms that he is an awesome prospect too!

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[ Still, the athletic package and tools are second to none.
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#1 prospect in minor league baseball

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 Post subject: Re: Hahn's Vision
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I'll drop more of my minor leagues baseball knowledge on the group: Tyler Danish. Also, some A pitcher they got in a trade tore it up this year before getting hurt.

In two years the Sox have moved from last to middle of the pack under Hahn.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Yup. Glad it is settled.


Seriously, and I'm not trying to incite Cub fans here, but there seems to be a big difference in the way the respective fanbases view prospects and the way the media treats prospects depending upon which team they are on. Tim Anderson was a highly regarded first round draft pick who is moving quickly through the system. I have no doubt if he were a Cub prospect he would be one of the "Core 4" or "Core 7" or whatever it is now. As a Sox fan, I've never thought much about Tim Anderson at all.



I have pointed out this difference many times and get roundly pooh pooed by the Cub faithful. I really think Sox fans really do not care until they get to the Cell. Of course, that may change with all the info and ratings stuff these days so readily available.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Yup. Glad it is settled.


Seriously, and I'm not trying to incite Cub fans here, but there seems to be a big difference in the way the respective fanbases view prospects and the way the media treats prospects depending upon which team they are on. Tim Anderson was a highly regarded first round draft pick who is moving quickly through the system. I have no doubt if he were a Cub prospect he would be one of the "Core 4" or "Core 7" or whatever it is now. As a Sox fan, I've never thought much about Tim Anderson at all.



I have pointed out this difference many times and get roundly pooh pooed by the Cub faithful. I really think Sox fans really do not care until they get to the Cell. Of course, that may change with all the info and ratings stuff these days so readily available.

so you're pointing out that Sox fans are less FANATICAL than Cubs fans.

We'll, I guess that explains attendance at least.

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I guess you are right if fanatical includes minor league obsession. :lol:

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I guess you are right if fanatical includes minor league obsession. :lol:

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I'll drop more of my minor leagues baseball knowledge on the group: Tyler Danish. Also, some A pitcher they got in a trade tore it up this year before getting hurt.

In two years the Sox have moved from last to middle of the pack under Hahn.

Still don't think Danish can consistently get lefties out with that arm slot.

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so you're pointing out that Sox fans are less FANATICAL than Cubs fans.

We'll, I guess that explains attendance at least.
Are you going to the Attendance Championship parade in October?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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so you're pointing out that Sox fans are less FANATICAL than Cubs fans.

We'll, I guess that explains attendance at least.
Are you going to the Attendance Championship parade in October?


ah, so you think I use the term FANATICAL to mean something positive? Or that higher attendance is positive?

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pittmike wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Yup. Glad it is settled.


Seriously, and I'm not trying to incite Cub fans here, but there seems to be a big difference in the way the respective fanbases view prospects and the way the media treats prospects depending upon which team they are on. Tim Anderson was a highly regarded first round draft pick who is moving quickly through the system. I have no doubt if he were a Cub prospect he would be one of the "Core 4" or "Core 7" or whatever it is now. As a Sox fan, I've never thought much about Tim Anderson at all.



I have pointed out this difference many times and get roundly pooh pooed by the Cub faithful. I really think Sox fans really do not care until they get to the Cell. Of course, that may change with all the info and ratings stuff these days so readily available.


I'm not sure why certain things, players, etc. get hyped and others don't but it certainly isn't always simply based upon their merits.

I'll use an example from harness racing. There is a horse named Captaintreacherous who is unquestionably the best colt of his generation (foals of 2010). But the way the industry embraced him and pushed him as if he was one of the all-time great champions seemed kind of silly. And now as a four year old racing older horses he has struggled. His trainer and main owner have a two year old right now named Artspeak that is more dominating than Captaintreacherous ever was and nobody is really talking about him. So I don't know who is making the call on which horse gets the press and which one doesn't, but it sure isn't based strictly on performance. And I would say the same about ballplayers or anything else.

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Tim Anderson is such a boring name. Hawk needs to give this guy a nickname and quick


I actually looked this guy up last week when we were discussing the White Sox drafting of Sale and Rodon compared with the original Core 4 (Thomas, Ventura, McDowell and Fernandez)

His numbers look decent, nothing eye popping

818 OPS is good


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Tim Anderson is such a boring name. Hawk needs to give this guy a nickname and quick


I actually looked this guy up last week when we were discussing the White Sox drafting of Sale and Rodon compared with the original Core 4 (Thomas, Ventura, McDowell and Fernandez)

His numbers look decent, nothing eye popping

818 OPS is good
Look at rpb putting down Sox prospects!

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Tim Anderson is such a boring name. Hawk needs to give this guy a nickname and quick


I actually looked this guy up last week when we were discussing the White Sox drafting of Sale and Rodon compared with the original Core 4 (Thomas, Ventura, McDowell and Fernandez)

His numbers look decent, nothing eye popping

818 OPS is good
Look at rpb putting down Sox prospects!


:lol: The worm has turned.

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pittmike wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Tim Anderson is such a boring name. Hawk needs to give this guy a nickname and quick


I actually looked this guy up last week when we were discussing the White Sox drafting of Sale and Rodon compared with the original Core 4 (Thomas, Ventura, McDowell and Fernandez)

His numbers look decent, nothing eye popping

818 OPS is good
Look at rpb putting down Sox prospects!


:lol: The worm has turned.

Mike, what does that even mean?


That's not putting down anyone. Rick is joking.


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I was being a goof as well. Mainly because the sox fans bitch right?

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I was being a goof as well. Mainly because the sox fans bitch right?

I dont know man.


Is there any jealousy in Pittsburgh of Baltimore's famous PIT sandwich?


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pittmike wrote:
I was being a goof as well. Mainly because the sox fans bitch right?

I dont know man.


Is there any jealousy in Pittsburgh of Baltimore's famous PIT sandwich?


Not that I have encountered.

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pittmike wrote:
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I was being a goof as well. Mainly because the sox fans bitch right?

I dont know man.


Is there any jealousy in Pittsburgh of Baltimore's famous PIT sandwich?


Not that I have encountered.

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So, basically he is building around this future:

Sale
Rodon
Abreu
Alexi
Garcia
Gillaspie
Eaton
Tim Anderson

All while losing Dunn's $15M and hopefully with a larger budget to spend than this year.

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that's a not so good.

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Tim Christian Anderson?


Anderson Blooper?


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that's a not so good.

I think it's pretty good.

Not totally sold on Gillaspie and health is an issue but that's a solid core


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
So, basically he is building around this future:

Sale
Rodon
Abreu
Alexi
Garcia
Gillaspie
Eaton
Tim Anderson

All while losing Dunn's $15M and hopefully with a larger budget to spend than this year.




I Don't know who Tim Anderson is but add Quintana n that is pretty good IMO .
I don't think Eaton will stay healthy or be around long term.

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that's a not so good.
That seems pretty solid to me.

It's not sure fire 90s Braves good.

Do you ever explain your thoughts?

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Its not great, but its not terrible either. its certainly a solid enough core where if you get some good pitching you can contend with that.

Dunn's $ coming off the books, Konerko opening up a roster spot, and hopefully a Danks trade will really help as well.

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