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 Post subject: Re: Bob In Niles
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I think it's great that people who heard Friday's show emailed and complained. I would have joined if you if I heard the show. By pulling the podcast (which is obviously a deliberate action), Mitch/The Score hope to tamp down huge firestorm from occurring. If there was an audio clip being passed around the web of radio hosts goofing on a person w/ not all their faculties, you can bet it would have gotten traction.

I'd be shocked if Bob from Niles returns. Bernstein won't make any mention of it and it will disappear like a fart in a wind storm. If ever confronted where Bernstein has to answer (maybe the Senior Columnist addresses it), he will say that Bob loved it and his family was 100% behind it and how Bob looked forward to it every week.

I don't listen to much afternoon drive radio, but when I do I check in to B&B and don't last long. One habit that drives me nuts is he thinks everything is funny. The show is almost like some morning zoo with laughing and schoolyard giggling over things that are not funny. Maybe i'm in the minority here but Bernstein is anything but funny and if he gets his jollies making a old man look silly than he should burn in hell.


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I think it's great that people who heard Friday's show emailed and complained. I would have joined if you if I heard the show. By pulling the podcast (which is obviously a deliberate action), Mitch/The Score hope to tamp down huge firestorm from occurring. If there was an audio clip being passed around the web of radio hosts goofing on a person w/ not all their faculties, you can bet it would have gotten traction.

I'd be shocked if Bob from Niles returns. Bernstein won't make any mention of it and it will disappear like a fart in a wind storm. If ever confronted where Bernstein has to answer (maybe the Senior Columnist addresses it), he will say that Bob loved it and his family was 100% behind it and how Bob looked forward to it every week.

I don't listen to much afternoon drive radio, but when I do I check in to B&B and don't last long. One habit that drives me nuts is he thinks everything is funny. The show is almost like some morning zoo with laughing and schoolyard giggling over things that are not funny. Maybe i'm in the minority here but Bernstein is anything but funny and if he gets his jollies making a old man look silly than he should burn in hell.


You're getting at the point that I brought up earlier, namely Dan's defense. He might argue that while to some the segment might be distasteful, it was never meant to be offensive and that they were sincerely seeking Bob's opinions on movies because of his unusual perspective. That will be difficult to overcome. Furthermore, he will say that Bob and his family gave consent, so if anyone was injured in all this, it is Bob, who is fine with the bit. So the charges against Bernstein have to be framed differently by saying that he took advantage of someone who was not capable of knowing he was being abused for no other reason than to mock his disability and that this offense goes farther than just Bob, it extends to all people with mental disabilities or whatever his condition is. It's sort of akin to putting on a special olympics just to make a mockery and spectacle out of all the participants. The part of the gag that is damaging to Bernstein, I believe, is the pie grading, where every time Bob fails to grasp what it is or what they're asking him to do. That's where the intentional mockery is, because they have repeated it over and over again to get a good laugh.


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The Second half was also not on Friday's podcast. Bob in Niles was on after that but neither made the pod.


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They definitely removed the Bob from Niles part of the podcast for a reason. I'm not saying the reason was us, but someone heard it and nixed putting it online at the very least. That would be a huge coincidence.


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*If* the complaints are enough to force Dan to stop doing the Bob from Niles segments, I would not be surprised if he throws Bob under the bus and says his ugly and unfortunate comments about gay marriage were the reason and not because the premise of the segment itself was distasteful.


That would have to mean that the Bob in Niles segment is no more. If it goes on another couple of weeks after it was revealed that Bob is on the wrong side of history and Dan continued to put him on air, well that's a WYC loaded up for anyone.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob In Niles
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I feel a bit like these holier-than-thou "I won't ever use the Redskins name again" people. After years and years and years of saying it, consuming games played by the team that is called Redskins, and otherwise just funneling my money (both directly and indirectly) into the NFL's coffers....I am now suddenly outraged by the name, disgusted by those that don't understand why, and need something done about it IMMEDIATELY.

This bit has always bothered me - I really can't recall if I ever even found it to be amusing/sweet/whatever, I think (at most) that I found it off-putting that these guys were actively producing segments around Bob. I've posted here about it before - I've had my family listen to it, to see if I was just overreacting - but I continued to (sometimes angrily) listen to the show. I'd be a great candidate for Who Ya Crappin?

All that said, it's become painfully clear that Dan/Terry/show staff/station mgt have not tired of this or done anything to put an end to it - I think part of me was assuming that they eventually would just quietly bullet the segment. Much like the Count Fagula and Gay drops, they would just go away - perhaps during an Ask Us Anything they would mention that Bob was really starting to drift more than they realized, and what they were doing was (at least) bordering on exploitation. BUT NO. This isn't happening on it's own. It takes an idiot that goes by the name HARRY SEAWARD to suddenly get pissed, and for other like-minded folks, to finally burst and start flooding emails/social media/media for it to even be addressed. CRAZY.

I still don't know what happened with Kid Cairo or those other guys, but I'm sure someone like him could (without too much trouble) whip together a nice YouTube mashup video where still of Bob are shown as audio of the most cringeworthy moments are played in the background. Send it to Dan. Ask him if that's funny? Should this be used as weekly comedy fodder for anything, let alone a big time radio station in Chicago?

This may sound dramatic, but I feel guilty about not trying to do something sooner -- if anything, I've learned that there are a lot of tone deaf/soulless people at that station, and that the "longest running sports radio show in Chicago" certainly doesn't really have as big of an impact on the cultural landscape as Dan has somehow been conned into thinking it does - if it actually were a big deal, how many advocacy groups would have been alerted?


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so did this train already run out of steam or has there just not been any official feedback from anyone at the station or other media


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Good work everyone. Hopefully this is enough to end the 'bit'. I'm still a B&B fan but this is one fo the things they do that I just can't support or justify. If he was calling in and they put him on the air that would be one thing but they make a whole production out of it... Just wrong. The show is so far gone from what made it great that I dont know how it will ever get back.

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so did this train already run out of steam or has there just not been any official feedback from anyone at the station or other media


I'm still on it - no response from Mitch/Rod/IL Dept on Aging - but it was a long weekend, so we'll see. I've reached out to other advocacy groups and media outlets, as well, so, no, the train is full steam ahead to stop this awful treatment of a (seemingly) nice old man.


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so did this train already run out of steam or has there just not been any official feedback from anyone at the station or other media


I'm still on it - no response from Mitch/Rod/IL Dept on Aging - but it was a long weekend, so we'll see. I've reached out to other advocacy groups and media outlets, as well, so, no, the train is full steam ahead to stop this awful treatment of a (seemingly) nice old man.


If anyone had audio of the bit it would make a huge difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Bob In Niles
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so did this train already run out of steam or has there just not been any official feedback from anyone at the station or other media


I'm still on it - no response from Mitch/Rod/IL Dept on Aging - but it was a long weekend, so we'll see. I've reached out to other advocacy groups and media outlets, as well, so, no, the train is full steam ahead to stop this awful treatment of a (seemingly) nice old man.


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If anyone had audio of the bit it would make a huge difference.


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I sort of agree, but I think it's MORE telling that they have not posted - like THEY actually know that this was some sort of breaking point. IMO, there are several WORSE appearances than this latest one....the one where he was muttering about the fellow resident yelling at him comes to mind, and you could do a mashup (from the files currently on their podcast feed) of all of the giggles and mocking and produced bumpers that would be pretty damning, too.

The sick part about all of this is that I think about the absolutely disingenuous, super serious and somber radio voice, type address we'd get from Dan when he has to pass along news of Bob's passing. I've thought the same thing about Mike, although somehow his treatment doesn't seems nearly as cruel as Bob's because he seems like he is on the joke at times....about how they would play a mashup of "hysterical" soundbytes, then come back with a "we had a lot of fun, but having had the honor to meet this guy, we are sorry for his loss and pass on our best to his family/friends etc."

Anyway, it is striking to me how similar Dan has ended up being to a clown like North.....although I don't think North ever really tried to push an agenda of being a "beacon" for people on important issues, like Dan likes to do. That's fine if he wants to pretend to be an important voice breaking down important topics, but you really do lose a lot of slack when it comes to things like embracing being a founding member of Bearforce 1, or talking about women like pieces of meat for his eyes to consume, or routinely giggling at and mocking a senior citizen living in a nursing home.


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I've thought the same thing about Mike, although somehow his treatment doesn't seems nearly as cruel as Bob's because he seems like he is on the joke at times....



Mike is nearly as bad. I don't think he's in on the joke. But the meanness of mocking him is tempered slightly when he occasionally reaches deep into his pickled brain and navigates throgh the drunkness to fire off a good shot at bernstein.

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I've thought the same thing about Mike, although somehow his treatment doesn't seems nearly as cruel as Bob's because he seems like he is on the joke at times....



Mike is nearly as bad. I don't think he's in on the joke. But the meanness of mocking him is tempered slightly when he occasionally reaches deep into his pickled brain and navigates throgh the drunkness to fire off a good shot at bernstein.
Mike is clearly in on the joke. He's called them plenty of time sober and sounded like a pretty normal older guy.

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Alcoholism can't be Mike's only issue, right? I know some pretty severe, old alcoholics, and they don't sound that bad.

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I've thought the same thing about Mike, although somehow his treatment doesn't seems nearly as cruel as Bob's because he seems like he is on the joke at times....



Mike is nearly as bad. I don't think he's in on the joke. But the meanness of mocking him is tempered slightly when he occasionally reaches deep into his pickled brain and navigates throgh the drunkness to fire off a good shot at bernstein.
Mike is clearly in on the joke. He's called them plenty of time sober and sounded like a pretty normal older guy.


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Alcoholism can't be Mike's only issue, right? I know some pretty severe, old alcoholics, and they don't sound that bad.
He's from Wisconsin. They all sound like that.

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I sent a PM to bigfan about it.


:lol:

I dumped a bucket of ice water on my head.

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The real irony is that Terry doesn't appear to be too far away from being Bob.

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The real irony is that Terry doesn't appear to be too far away from being Bob.

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North has been ripped for his "sombrero" & "Chinamen" comments where he was just mimicking a Don Rickles but these 2 A-Holes get away with this???

It really is sickening.


North was in a lot deeper, than just mimicking Rickles.

He asked somebody once, "how would you feel, if your daughter came home with Tyrone?"

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I am not certain really what to say anymore on this. I do know one thing though. If Bob was my dad I would go and belt Bernsie so hard in the face he would need medical attention. And I would not care about the proper authorities.


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North has been ripped for his "sombrero" & "Chinamen" comments where he was just mimicking a Don Rickles but these 2 A-Holes get away with this???

It really is sickening.


North was in a lot deeper, than just mimicking Rickles.

He asked somebody once, "how would you feel, if your daughter came home with Tyrone?"



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:lol:

That guy should be careful. More people are packing these days. He might get shot.

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Its like the Mults of Sini and PAnther had a kid.


And you're a fucking Muppet, a Bernstein puppet.


Not quite a mop, not quite a puppet but man... :lol:

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I am not certain really what to say anymore on this. I do know one thing though. If Bob was my dad I would go and belt Bernsie so hard in the face he would need medical attention. And I would not care about the proper authorities.


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Its like the Mults of Sini and PAnther had a kid.


And you're a fucking Muppet, a Bernstein puppet.


Not quite a mop, not quite a puppet but man... :lol:


Why is that muppet made of leather?

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This is just an awful bit. It sad. I literally cringe my way thru the movie reviews.
Very uncomfortable. I think this should be beneath them.


I think in the beginning they thought they struck Comedy Gold with Bob. They realize it's bad now but Bernstein can't admit being wrong about ANYTHING! So it continues.


I can't stand this bit either.He mocks this poor guy every week and he doesn't even know it.He should be ashamed of himself.


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Somebody should call in talking about how much they love the Bob in Niles segment and asking why the podcast for it was edited out last Friday.

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