It's clear you aren't even trying to understand the point.

It's not about what they want. It is about what they would be forced to do.

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Hey Easton gave each player in Williamsport $500-700 in swag all in neon colors and covered with Easton logos so...

(and the ridiculous $350-400 bats were chipping and breaking right out of the box )

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They would be forced to raise prices, close stores and fire employees. They shouldnt HAVE to do that though. Wal-Mart should be fine making XX Billion vs pre increase profits but they wont be. They will continue to try to make as much as possible.

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I agree that TV has killed the middle class.

Of course they will try and make as much as possible. They will not be able to because they won't have a workforce subsidized by the American taxpayer. That money is currently raising their profits. Every welfare check written to a Wal-Mart employee is basically writing a check to Wal-Mart.

You are acting like Wal-Mart can just choose to make X% profit. They can't. Outside forces decide their profit.

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I'm saying that these large corporations are used to making a certain amount of money. They arent going to just accept making less and continue doing things like they always have. There will be consequences to it. Higher prices, loss of jobs, closing of stores/or not building new stores and warehouses. All of it will have effects across the board.

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The loss of WalMart or McDonald's or the jobs that go with them won't be missed for long. Costco, regional grocers, local restuarants & the employees making actual living wages will likely stem the losses and turn the tides fairly quickly imo.

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I would hope so but I'm not as confident. I dont know if our economy is in a good place right now to be making decisions like this one.

But just in case it does happen, good riddance. Fuck Wal-Mart. I hate to be debating about them making billions. Give me a Target or Mejier any day of the week.

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So lets flip this around. If raising the minimum wage is wrong why not just drop it down to like $3 an hour? Imagine how many people would be employed making $24 a day!

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The most idiotic thing posted in this thread...

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What is the argument against a $3 minimum wage?

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That the employer's share of withholding taxes is too. damn. high.???

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McDonald's CEO Don Thompson's salary recently increased from $4.1 million, to $13.8 million. Somehow, they manage to sell Big Macs at the same price they always have, and not $15.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/0 ... -with-that

This fallacy needs to be put to death, like others, such as trickle down economics, and the Iraq war would pay for itself.

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Look ... corporations and other businesses are clearly just not going to accept making less money nor should they be expected to. It's clearly and obviously incumbent upon the general populace peons to accept less money, work more hours, and be goddamned thankful for it while they're at it. I don't know what idiots like BRick, RPB, and Chus don't understand about something so patently simple and straightforward.

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Costco pays their employees far more than Walmart does, and Costco grew at 8%, while Walmart grew at 1.2%, for the 1st quarter of 2013.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2 ... u-pay-for/

Does that convince you, Hawg?

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To be fair, percentages without reference numbers are meaningless.

I might have a business that grew 13.8% the last two years running but if my net profit is about $130k, I'm not really going to wave that around like I'm better than WalMart.

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Could they strive to learn more skills and become more marketable? Manufacturers can't find dedicated workers interested in making it a career. High school kids don't want to go into a manufacturing job because it's boring or something. I don't know.

They could get an entry-level manufacturing job for minimum $10/hour, weekends off, 40 hours guaranteed with some limited overtime, holidays off, benefits and with potential to move up and learn a skill but the majority of them go to McDonald's and work for minimum wage. Skilled guys in some fields are all 55+ and about to retire without nobody coming up to take their place. Those guys make $80k+/year but most of them started off at the beginning.

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The problem isn't fixed by pulling a dollar amount out of a hat. It is going to be fixed by decreasing the income equality in this country. Right now 51% of the income in this country goes to the top 10% (22.5% of that goes to the top 1%) and 90% of the population divides up the other 49%. That's what needs to change. Nothing else matters if that doesn't change.

I personally wouldn't pay any kid $15 an hour to do anything I was hired to do as a kid. One of those jobs was working at McDonald's in a mall. There are some adults I would never give a chance if I had to pay them $15 an hour.

Reduce income equality to the levels we saw in the late 40's and early 50's and a lot of problems will be solved. Increasing the minimum wage doesn't reduce that gap. In the end you will hurt kids and people who need the help most IMO.

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How would you achieve that Nas?

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I guess, thinking about it, my biggest problem is putting unskilled jobs on the same level as skilled trades (entry level) disincentivizes the development of a more skilled workforce.

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You would love if someone just woke up and realized this was a great idea and start making changes. The federal government is probably going to have to nudge them. Reality will likely do it first.

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Yeah thats bullshit Hank and you know it

I'm saying the corporations will raise prices as much as they can while retaining market share (its just not near the level you think it is). You think they can raise costs to any level they choose and people will pay whatever which is wrong.


And for some reason you seem to think what a corporation wants is more relevant than what a corporation can realistically getaway with


If anyone is bring unrealistc its you

Cost of living is what I meant

Remember, friends, if you index anything to inflation you're indexing to something that has been changed/manipulated in massive ways for the last 30+ years for the sole purpose of under-reporting it.

Of course they will but that depends on supply and demand, not "whatever Walmart wants"

Hank I know you understand supply and demand. Why are you pretending it doesn't exist in this thread?

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I do not see the gap changing. Since the advent of 401ks, personal banking/investment, day traders and so on the incentive and system is to make more as fast as possible via Wall St. Too intertwined in society to get the top down. So how to get the bottom up? I suggest you can't. In any but the most theoretical systems you must have a bottom and a top. Sort of like the law of gravity it must be.

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