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Anyone else besides me tired of Drinky's editorial and smarmy joke comments during updates. When he does the update he is not the producer. Do it get off and then go to your usual dumb ass self.

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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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ok am i missing something here? why are all of the torch-n-pitchfork mobs out for goodell's head with this latest BREAKING NEWS about someone in the NFL having access to the tapes?

last i checked this is what happened:

1) ray rice and his soon-to-be-wife got into a nasty little spat at some casino in atlantic city. despite the whole "it takes two to tango thing" ray hit the chick, she fell and hit her head against some elevator railing (which has been upgraded into him laying her out cold with a single punch) and he dragged her out of the elevator caveman-style. i even saw some chick on CNN/MSNBC/something lament that ray "didn't bend over to ask if she's ok or anything" --- OMFG WHOAAAAA I'M GONNA KILL THAT MOTHERFUCKER MYSELF IF I SEE HIM CUZ YOU AT LEAST ASK IF THE CHICK IS OK!

2) the chick realizes that anything coming out of this fucks up her chances for future $$$$$ (cuz ray is gonna still try and marry her to save face, and now with this incident out there she's got the red carpet rolled up to walk away with half/more of his shit, and she's always got an infalible reason to do so (spousal abuse) so basically the bigger of a deal this thing becomes the less $$$ she's gonna have one way or another down the road.

3) there's some shitty grainy video of the part where ray drags her out of the elevator (and doesn't hitch up her skirt or bend over to ask how she's doing! *GASP* THE HORRORS!)

4) ray rice's defense has access to some video that shows him hitting her (tho what everyone calls a giant "cold cock" to me looks like he just gave a decent shot to a crazed bitch charging him that mostly brushes her aside) and the result is that she falls, hits her head on the elevator railing, gets knocked out cold, and gets the cavewoman treatment. we now find out that this video was given to somebody in the NFL at some point.

5) ray rice's beeeyotch decides to not file charges on this (likely cuz of the future $$$ she'd be out by "ruining his career") and a day after the court case she marries the guy. the baltimore ravens issue a hilarious tweet/stagement where the chick apologizes for her "unfortunate role" in this whole rigameroo.

6) with no charges filed/pursued/prosecuted and, presumably, only a bunch of he-said/she-said where the only known video at the time showed ray rice dragging the chick out of the elevator caveman style, goodell ***ONLY*** suspends him 2 games or something and life goes on.

7) somewhere along the way, the hotel/casino that this incident happened at goes out of business so it's quite possible that some employee grabbed a copy of the tape as a golden parachute / retirement-plan in the wake of losing a job at the casino. dude sells the tape to TMZ or something to collect his/her 6-7 figures.

8) now that there's a video out that shows ray rice giving this chick charging him a decent pop that brushed her aside into the railing that knocked her out cold, suddenly OMFG RAY RICE IS THE MOST EVIL MAN EVER!!! YOU NEVER HIT A WOMAN NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES (and of course women know this and often spit right in your face or physically assault you knowing that, hey, if you lay a finger n them well you're immediately in the wrong and etc etc. feminism is all for equality unless it's one of those situations where women have a total and unquestionable advantage, at which point it's out-n-out misogyny that you dare question the status quo! YOU NEVER LAY YOUR HANDS ON A WOMAN!!!!) and the ravens cut him, the NFL moves to suspend him indefinitely (at least for a whole season, right?) and EA is going to have the first madden 2015 patch remove him entirely from the game and hey unless you're a justin forsett guy us guys who had drafted bernard pierce all over the place are like "hey we told you that ray rice was done one way or another"

9) now that someone in the NFL has access to this video, social justice demands goodell's head on a plate because courts of law be damned.... if there's a video out there that purports-to/shows something that people en masse don't like (or at least the faux-populist people who claim to represent all of us shout about loud enough to speak for all of us) well YOU HAVE TO ACT QUICKLY AND DEFINITIVELY AND WITHOUT HESITATION TO PUNISH WHERE THE LAW DID NOT!

is there any crusade to get the prosecutor against ray rice fired? is there any crusade to get the judge who didn't slam ray rice fired? what about ray rice's wife.... she should be in jail for attempting to cover up a clearly obvious heinous crime by not filing charges or saying that the massmedia/public has ruined her life by making a big deal about this.... and i mean there's a video that shows a famous man hitting a woman! WHAT THE FUCK MRS. RICE YOU OUGHTA GO DOWN IN FLAMES FOR THIS BECAUSE THE VIDEO IS IN. THE EVIDENCE HAS SPOKEN. RAY RICE IS GUILTY OF EVERYTHING WE CAN THROW AT HIM!!!!!

so yeah, while i'm not gonna sit here and say that ray rice didn't screw the pooch bigtime.... it's just odd to me that this is suddenly a OMFG ROGER GOODELL IS DONE.... HE HAS TO BE, RIGHT?! situation when like.... there's no legal charges against ray rice. clearly the police would have / should have had access to this tape and even if the future mrs rice didnt wanna press charges well since the tape is 100% irrefutable evidence i mean he should be rotting in jail for 15-20 years for this hideous crime upon womynkind! IT'S A RAPIDLY DEVELOPING MASSIVE NFL STORY!!!!!

idk. i just can't see how ray rice didn't end up in jail for this if the tape is 100.0% evidence that he's a horrible criminal and rah rah rah.... and now goodell is on the chopping block because he didn't suspend this guy for a year, but only 2 games? he changed the policy on domestic abuse to become "the ray rice rule" effectively, and while ray rice might have "gotten away with it" for a short period of time where he only had a 2 game suspension before he got cut and suspended indefinitely... ray rice is basically out of football and quite possibly done for his career.... and goodell done goofed, and now we're saying because he didnt go out and punish ray rice unilaterally and unequivocally without a doubt in a severe enough matter that he's gotta go?

so basically if he initially suspended ray rice for a year or expelled him from the league he's all good? but because it was 2 weeks until the video got out now it's like GTFO OF THE NFL YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT-TO-DOWNRIGHT-EVIL PIECE OF SHIT!?!?!?!?!??!

idk. i'm not saying that people are necessarily wrong in thinking that he should have done more.... but without massive legal problems for ray rice it just feels to me like a pitchfork-n-torch wielding social justice mob is having a field day with this one.... and well, if this ray rice thing is technically apropos and worth the outrage at the 2 game suspension, that doesnt do much to convey the outright fear i've got that the social justice mob can go out and basically demand justice beyond the legal system should they deem it worthy (i.e. they're saying even if goodelll didn't see tape #2 he should have given ray rice the full indefinite suspension because THE EVIDENCE WAS IN! HE DRAGGED HER OUT OF AN ELEVATOR! NOBODY HAS EVER PASSED OUT DRUNK B4 HE CLEARLY JACKED THE BITCH AND YOU NEED TO SUSPEND HIM 4 LYFE!!!!!

yeah TL;DR and i reckon i'll get a lot of shit/smh-sentiments (i might even lose my nas pass) but yeah, i reckon i'm prolly the only one who is a bit earpy that this whole thing feels like a social justice mob running around and demanding their justice.... and in the end, they get it and thensome. which is worrysome going forward. i guess the legal process is more of a "good start" as opposed to the be-all/end-all when this many people have their minds made up.

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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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Bernstein's Justice = Guilty until proven Innocent

How can they allow someone with such a mob/witch hunting mentality on the air? He would have been the life of the party in Salem in 1662.

There is no question in my mind now that Bernstein is a communist. His indoctrination of the Soviet legal system is on display glaringly today.

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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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personally i'm surprised in what i've heard yesterday and today that bernstein hasn't jumped on penn st/NCAA using the cover of the ray rice debacle to quietly slip out a statement that penn state is eligible to be bowl eligible again and they're getting all of their football scholarships (~85?) back starting next year/season.

isn't that a much bigger story? after the countless hours devoted to BRAVELY MAKING A STAND AGAINST CHILD RAPE the NCAA basically undid all of the punishments that penn st got and that's *whistles* gone by the wayside because we're busy settling for no less than roger goodell's job!

it just seems a bit disingenuous to me.... both the whole NCAA-using-ray-rice-as-cover thing and of course beerstain only caring about the "big" story of the day which is WE DEMAND ROGER GOODELL'S HEAD ON A PLATTER BECAUSE HE'S OK WITH DOMESTIC ABUSE!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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If she floats like a duck then she is made of wood. A witch A witch. :lol:


Classic! That's exactly what I was thinking of! Was going to put it into my posting but left it out." :lol: :lol:

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also, it's just kinda sad that seemingly the impetus for "the truth" getting out in ray rice's situation was selling the tape to TMZ after the hotel/casino closed.... i mean the media coverage of this whole issue seems like it's some important referendum on the concept of justice as a whole, yet in the end the only reason we're privy to the truth is that someone wanted a nice easy payday for themselves... not because of actual justice being served.

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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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Anyone else besides me tired of Drinky's editorial and smarmy joke comments during updates. When he does the update he is not the producer. Do it get off and then go to your usual dumb ass self.


He's trying to be extra funny after he flopped two days ago. In doing so, he insulted all restaurant workers by suggesting that Goodell could end up doing that, a comment that fell completely flat on its face.


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If she floats like a duck then she is made of wood. A witch A witch. :lol:


Classic! That's exactly what I was thinking of! Was going to put it into my posting but left it out." :lol: :lol:

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I caught a few minutes with Hub, until the caller referred to the Bears as "us", and Bernstein did his usual routine, where he pretends to not know to whom the caller was referring.

Berns: Who are you talking about?
Caller: The defense.
Berns: Which team?
Caller: The Bears!

Chus: PTFB

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 Post subject: Re: 9/10: the thread
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I caught a few minutes with Hub, until the caller referred to the Bears as "us", and Bernstein did his usual routine, about pretending to not know to whom the caller was referring.

Berns: Who are you talking about?
Caller: The defense.
Berns: Which team?
Caller: The Bears!

Chus: PTFB

That has become so tiring. He just can't allow himself to overlook it and let people be themselves. Asshat.

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Anyone else other than me find it odd how excited he gets about legalese and people getting fired and making quick determinations in things like the Goodell case? I wonder why he never became some sort of political reporter doing real stuff or a CNN guy.


Mostly because Keith Olbermann does the good, bad, and indifferent parts of the job exponentially better than Dan ever could, and we see how well the political version of his schtick got over ...

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There is something bizarre about people like Laurence Holmes being on CBS owned The Score talking about potential softball questions because CBS is beholden to the NFL because they want Thursday Night football.

Wouldn't that mean you guys are also in the same boat?

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There is something bizarre about people like Laurence Holmes being on CBS owned The Score talking about potential softball questions because CBS is beholden to the NFL because they want Thursday Night football.

Wouldn't that mean you guys are also in the same boat?



They do not even realize how fucked they are. At any point a team of really smart lawyers from CBS can come in and tell Danny (and Larry) to STFU NOW. Bernsie alluded to this and I do not doubt for a second he would say "jump?, how high?".

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Chus wrote:
I caught a few minutes with Hub, until the caller referred to the Bears as "us", and Bernstein did his usual routine, about pretending to not know to whom the caller was referring.

Berns: Who are you talking about?
Caller: The defense.
Berns: Which team?
Caller: The Bears!

Chus: PTFB

That has become so tiring. He just can't allow himself to overlook it and let people be themselves. Asshat.


Would love for a caller to respond "I'm talking to a CHICAGO radio station. The Bears, you dipshit!"

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
There is something bizarre about people like Laurence Holmes being on CBS owned The Score talking about potential softball questions because CBS is beholden to the NFL because they want Thursday Night football.

Wouldn't that mean you guys are also in the same boat?



They do not even realize how fucked they are. At any point a team of really smart lawyers from CBS can come in and tell Danny (and Larry) to STFU NOW. Bernsie alluded to this and I do not doubt for a second he would say "jump?, how high?".


Yeah, Berns will get quiet about Goddell real quick if the really.smart.people call him into their office and tell him to STFU

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Yeah, I kind of picked up on that too. I don't understand why; of all the principals in this story, Ferry and his comparison of Luol Deng to an unscrupulous African merchant is easily the meanest (and strangest).


Yea, where the hell does that comparison even come from? That's just weird.

What's being attributed to Ferry is really something he read from a scouting report. Still raises a lot of questions, though.



I guess he can't proofread what he is going to say? That was just strange and as CH said he is full African. It also doesn't fit Deng in the slightest.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
There is something bizarre about people like Laurence Holmes being on CBS owned The Score talking about potential softball questions because CBS is beholden to the NFL because they want Thursday Night football.

Wouldn't that mean you guys are also in the same boat?



They do not even realize how fucked they are. At any point a team of really smart lawyers from CBS can come in and tell Danny (and Larry) to STFU NOW. Bernsie alluded to this and I do not doubt for a second he would say "jump?, how high?".



Bernsie would do that.


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