I've seen different kids, (all in the same family) same parents, same time investment, kid 1 never needs a spank in his/her entire life and kid 2 needs a spank a week. Every kid needs different discipline. It's silly to suggest it's a simple equation of time investment. Some kids don't need a swat. Some do. Every kid needs corrective action that changes their course of action and introduces them to authority.

Spanking is a last resort. And should never be anything other than a momentary pain.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

There is a lot of literature that indicates that spanking is never the best option.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201309/research-spanking-it-s-bad-all-kids

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Let me think about that over the weekend. It's good in theory.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Children are introduced to authority at birth.

And their is a ton of time invested in the raising of any child. Unless you don't have the time and find spanking them better.

Discipline comes from the word disciple. Follow the path from there.

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I can only speak from experience. And the only thing that got my attention was the threat of a spank. Disappoint my dad or mom? Did it so many times it lost any meaning. I did whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted if there was no sense of authority.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

I'm not sure what your first sentence means. Your second sentence is correct. Your third sentence is not only assumptive and potentially slanderous, it also indicates you have not read my previous sentences. And since you apparently have not, we're done.

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

It is possible you were desensitized to anything else though.

Still though, it is never acceptable to use any sort of object.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

So shame was the other mode of discipline you were most familiar with?

It often goes hand in hand with corporal punishment.

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What gender is this poor kid?

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

In that case I was born desensitized.

And I agree with your second sentence. My older brother and my younger brother rarely were spanked. They obeyed. I sat in my timeout chair and plotted how to blow up the house. I'm serious. My parents had no idea where I came from. All five of my other siblings, sisters included, behaved themselves. Probably didn't even need my parents.

And it's a boy

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Ба́бушка гада́ла, да на́двое сказа́ла—то ли до́ждик, то ли снег, то ли бу́дет, то ли нет.

Fuckin' Bernstein. Describing Peterson hitting the kid in the "nuts" had to give a "Yarrrr".

Really funny Bernstein. Make a joke about it. Bitch.

He DID have to give a "yarrrr." You always yarrrr.

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granted. i'm merely humoring him.... one way or another.

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No.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

yeah i'm glad to know i wasn't the only person who was like "HUH?" when he was doing his somber/reading-bad-news voice and he still had the werewithol to interject a YARRRRRRR. that's totally the "pick a lane" department as far as i'm concerned.

it's just like when i was listening to the beginning of an opie and ant.... jimmy show last week and opie was going off on perez hilton for hosting the "fappening" celeb nude leak pics and blasting him for trying to make $$$ off of the back of such a horrible invasion of privacy and etc. it was total moral indignation at the levels some people will go to be the "first" to get out ahead of a story and disseminate said pictures to people through his site so he can get the pageviews/clicks/$$$ and he was saying that perez hilton is unequivocally a piece of garbage and that is unquestionable.

THEN LITERALLY IN THE SAME BREATH he was like "i've only seen the jennifer lawrence and kate upton ones.... e-rock are you getting the rest of them?" and they went on to look at the pictures and point out a few of the !!! ones (especially that one british chick who had the cock in her eye) and it was just some total "WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?" territory because if you're going to unleash a hatchetjob on perez hilton for trying to make a quick buck off of the whole situation, how are you going to unequivocally condemn him then turn around and gleefully point out which ones you've seen and then make the effort to get the rest of them right then and there? at least a few pictures were described in detail so you know that's acting like a veritable advertisement to GO AND FIND THESE PICS cuz you can picture sitting there listening to the radio (whether at home or in the car) hearing about all these HOTT SEXXXY PICS and then having to go look them up when the radio hosts are ogling over them.

so which one is it, opester? are we (feigning?) moral indignation over the whole "invasion of privacy" angle, or are we all YEEHAW NAKED CELEBRITIES!!! and hurredly looking them up so you actually have something to talk about on your radio show when you don't have 25mins worth of ketchup brand discussion / first annual O&J KETCHUP CHALLENGE!!!!! to fill up the show?

it just seems a tad bit disingenuous to literally play both sides of the coin and try to get some soundbites out there where you put perez hilton on blast for putting this fappening stuff front and center, but then you literally turn around IN THE SAME BREATH and start talking about how you've only seen 2/the-set and you gotta have the producers get on that. but hey that's the world we live in in the year of our lord 2014 and especially in the realm of SJWism it's more "do what i preach and why the fuck are you looking at me to see what i do? stop stalking me you fucking creep! i'm so calling the police on you"

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btw guys, laurence's SURPRISE! full boat show tonight is like some sort of a wake for the NFL where he's telling callers that this has been a "horrible week" for football fans and he doesn't know if he can look at the games the same way again (THERE'S VIOLENT PEOPLE IN OUR MIDST!!!) and he's already taken a caller (prolly one of those paid-for/plant callers to "get a show going") who has said that he doesn't know if he'll ever enjoy the NFL quite the same again because the revelation that ray rice and adrian peterson are horrible people and the NFL very well might not be dropping the guillotine on them immediately and unequivocally = they're for domestic/child abuse and this is a sad day for him as he's unable to commit his whole heart to the sport he loves!

jesus christ almighty.... one way or another i swear to you that we increasingly live in a nation of pussies. that isn't to advocate/champion physical abuse of a spouse or child, but it is to say that HOLY SHIT DO PEOPLE LOVE WHINING ABOUT STUFF NOWADAYS!!!!! and the whole precedent of "why do you have to wait for the legal process to take its course? the evidence is here" = scary because we're getting to the point (if we're not there already) that social justice > actual legal-justice because god forbid somebody not get a stiff enough legal penalty or, double god forbid, they get proven innocent of any charges.... when the masses have their mind made up they demand justice swifter than the legal system can provide! give *US* the evidence (preferably in a 6-7 figure sale to TMZ) and we'll make up our minds and dole out the punishments because the courts are a nice idea, but they're more of a guideline for justice than the actual be-all/end-all because if the legal system fails us we'll make sure this piece of shit never works again!

ah well, i guess this is all part and parcel to the digiquitous age we live in..... i tried to go a bit ahead of my time in the 90s and call it "the cantankerous clone age" (with the thought being that the acceleration of ubiquitous digital culture, aka "digiquitous" culture, will create an assembly line for unremarkable dime-a-dozen completely average people. as technology reaches deeper and deeper into our souls with its continued proliferation into everyone's day-to-day lives, there's going to be more and more "clones" out there and it's going to be quite cantankerous) but really the digiquitous age is more apropos. everyone is walking around with a HD camera in their pocket so there's going to be instant pictures/videos of everything (if it isn't captured on a securicam) and now that these pics/videos get out and spread around the world quicker via the internet, indeed, the calls for immediate and total justice are going to transcend the legal system because the public can't wait a few months for the legal system to decide matters.... we're completely spoiled by instant gratification on all fronts (who of the millennial generation can ride a bus or train without whipping out their phone and putzing around some sort of text/twitter/website?) and now that conditioning for instant gratification is going to combine with the 24hr news cycle and people are going to want immediate justce and the results are literally available to hear when laurence is on the air now having his post-mortem for the NFL and how this issue is bothering so many people so deeply and profoundly.

"let's put this in perspective, laurence.... this isn't a NFL problem this is a societal problem"

part and parcel to SJW culture is convincing everybody (tho mainly middle class white heterosexual males) that they're some sort of problem that's oppressing/holding-back others and of course we're deeply flawed and broken and in need of the cure/fix that only swift and prompt social justice.... cuz like laurence just said.... "are we supposed to give up, or are we supposed to try and make things as good as possible?"

ah well, c'est la vie. a core tenet of social justice is recognizing that straight white males often find their escape from all of this media-driven bullshit in stuff like sports and video games.... so they go out of their way to effort "change" in those areas specifically because if there's anywhere people go for relief from the neverending drums of culture war, well, those are the areas that need it the most because everyone has to be privy to these changes to the social landscape and if they think they're gonna go anywhere to assemble in numbers to avoid this.... well the days of the boys club are over! we're coming and we're going to institute the important changes that bring us forward as a society!

and of course if you keep going forward enough you invariably end up in an ocean or off the end of a cliff. but that's neither here nor there..... i gotta get back to my outrage at the NFL and thank the good lord above that he gave us laurence holmes to be out there to give us a place to share our pain and suffering regarding the NFL championing domestic/violence because without laurence giving us a place to vent our feelings.... why i might explode because this stuff is bothering me on such a deep fundamental level that i can barely even muster a "woot" that bernard pierce got 22 carries / 96 yards as the primary back in the absence of ray rice (like i had planned for since day one.... heh heh)

TL;DR = holy shit i talk too much. but at least i like to think i have something to day (i don't)

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"there's a lot of ugliness we have to deal with tonight" - laurence W holmes, talking about ray rice / AP / and now there's some "greg hardy" who isn't getting publicized enough.

no laurence, we don't HAVE to deal with it tonight. we could acknowledge that domestic/child abuse is bad and move on to not dwell on the fundamental negativity of everything going on in the world of pro-athlete-abuse.... but since being sanctimonious in the wake of some sort of sensationalized media stroy is the easiest way to program your own show (because how many stats do you have to know about abuse? don't have to watch a game or know anything about anything to say that whooping other people is bad) it's still technically just a load of bullshit, especially when you're going to start off on the topic of abuse, only put calls on the air pertaining to the subject of abuse, and then you're able to turn around and say "THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT!"

smh. just smh. i have no idea why this show is still on my tunein player (laziness?) but i think talkSPORT is gonna get a listen from me because i don't need to spend hours sitting here talking about the "ugliness" and how this is such a rough listen for "victims of domestic abuse" or whoever laurence thinks he's doing this VERY. IMPORTANT. RADIO. for.

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You know I'm right with you on trying to keep the SJWs in check, but I think this is bigger than their silly windmill-tilting. This isn't some spoiled white girls bitching about video games. It's guys beating the shit out of women and children and the league trying to cover it up.

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I wonder what the DCFS thinks about "Quad Cities Pat" using his office to curry favor with Dan Bernstein?

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I get by without hitting


That's just me

Me too, RBP.

I've never even considered it.

312player has absolutely no problem with this.

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In this day and age there are so many more ways to discipline. Back in the olden days what could you take away. Well son today you can't shovel manure. It was a different time. Today you have zero reason to beat a kid. Violence on begets more violence.