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Tupac, who people love, was convicted in 1994 of 1st-degree sexual abuse. The judge described the crimes during the sentencing of Shakur to 1.5–4.5 years in prison as "an act of brutal violence against a helpless woman."

That woman admitted to blowing Tupac days earlier in a club.


Just because she blew him one day doesn't mean he and his friends get to rape her on a different day.

No one said that or implied it and that's kind of an assholish response on your part acting like I did say or imply that

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His story (false accusations based in jealousy) is as believable if not moreso than hers (the rapper who she blew in public raped her days later). I guess we'll never know, but its definitely not open and shut

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When a judge describes it as "an act of brutal violence against a helpless woman", I'm loathe to blame the woman.

I wonder what the judge said about Hurricane Carter for the crime he didnt commit. Probably something similarly damning.

No one is arguing that rape is an act of brutal violence against a helpless woman.

Some just argued that there was no rape.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
No one said that or implied it and that's kind of an assholish response on your part acting like I did say or imply that


I'm sorry that you thought that was an assholish response, but that seemed like an attempt at justification to which I felt only there was only one response.

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I wonder what the judge said about Hurricane Carter for the crime he didnt commit. Probably something similarly damning.


I figured wrongful convictions would be brought up. They do happen, and are horrible.

People have said that there was not as much made of the alleged rapes/sexual assaults involving Roethlisberger and Winston because they were not charged. I brought up Tupac in my earlier post because despite the fact that he was charged, people didn't seem to care. Maybe it would have had a more negative impact on his career if it had happened in a time when media and social media coverage were more extensive.


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Lol, Dan's source told him during break that Nike has contacted the NFL. He is so full of shit. This show has been beyond awful. I've had enough of the Vikings/AP talk.

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Lol, Dan's source told him during break that Nike has contacted the NFL. He is so full of shit. This show has been beyond awful. I've had enough of the Vikings/AP talk.

^Another pro child abuse person^

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My guess is part of the reason corporal punishment remains so close to mainstream is that it's easy, it's lazy, it's activity without accomplishment, and the group-think that so many others to it and it was done to me gives not only cover but some level of comfort that there's no need to examine something so "obviously" effective - if it wasn't effective, it wouldn't be so prevalent, right? :roll:

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Lol, Dan's source told him during break that Nike has contacted the NFL. He is so full of shit. This show has been beyond awful. I've had enough of the Vikings/AP talk.

^Another pro child abuse person^



No. Just tired of the same shit. They make no new points, and it doesn't pertain to Chicago sports.

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I am not grasping the AP can't play anymore. Regardless if you spank or not or how guilty AP is. Wasn't the new policy the NFL put out 6 games for first offense of domestic abuse of woman or child? How does Goddell go over that unless they change the policy yet again?

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So.

In the south, per Mary Mitchell (and countless others, particularly from the 'community'), it's tradition for "whoppin's" to occur. It's understandable, if not outright excused, because of tradition. Apparently years of tradition. Pop did it. Ma did it. Gramma did it. So on and so forth.

I just think it's "funny" to juxtapose that sort of "thinking" with another long-time southern tradition of whoopin' slaves.

Just a thought I had.


Mary Mitchell is and has always been a complete and utter moron.

I've been hearing this narrative a lot. That it's part and partial of the 'black experience'. Now, I won't go the slave route, but let's just look at the evidence:

- Over 72% of all black children are born out of wedlock. That number is well north of 90% to a mother under the age of 25%
- Pervasive in the 'culture' is the lack of helping of police - 'snitches get stitches'
- Out of control black on black crime
- The mistreatment of women ('bitches and hos') and the stupidity of the hip hop culture
- Rampant drop out and incarceration rates

By AP's lawyer-written explanation on Friday, he whoops because he was whooped as a kid. Great and that led to what exactly? A 'man' who has sired anywhere from 7-9 children (depending on reports) of wedlock. Fantastic testament to the value of 'whoopins'

So, if the whoopins' DID occur (by grandmama nonetheless), umm, they clearly didn't work. If anything it's evidence that they do NOT work. So if they don't work is there a reason to abuse children?


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Didn't listen much but I heard Dan's obligatory snap at 'momentum'

He LOVES to go on about how momentum is silly and blah blah blah.

Now, I realize that most athletes speak in cliches, but I've heard NUMEROUS athletes repeatedly talk about momentum. They were mocking Ray Lewis for saying it (well, there are a million things to mock him about) and Mike Brown himself said earlier on S&M.

So, elite athletes say that the idea of momentum is real, yet the 5'6" Jewish kid who watches Project Runway and probably has never thrown a football in his life, suddenly knows more about these things than Hall of Famers?

As others have said, wins like the Bears had or big at bats or come from behind wins create confidence. Guys that are playing with confidence and in the 'right headspace' play better - they make better throws, they see pitches better, etc - and that translates to success. Call it momentum, call it confidence. I call it pro athletes knowing more about being successful at their craft than a radio host.


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I love Patrick Mannelly discussing momentum with Jerrod Bushrod and saying, "I know I'll have a disagreement when 1PM comes along." I know it is sometimes overused but this is something Berstine should stop. You constantly have professional wang-whippers talking about the existence of momentum. I agree it exist. When things start to go your way endorphins and adrenaline rise and allows you to perform better. Dr Berstine should know this.

I use to like Dan even up until a few months ago despite all the Penn State and Concussion talk. But really this is beginning to be insufferable. I do not need a sports talk radio show telling me how to raise kids and treat women and all the other BS that comes along with man-of-the-century Dan Berstien!


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Bernsie is really something. Poor Hub bending over backwards to be nice and explain what may or may not be NFL angle and due process. Bernsie just wants to pounce all the time.

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He loves you pounce now, but as a reporter he was like Mulley and Hanley, tossing the softball questions.

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Whoever wrote that "press release" should be beaten with a switch ... I mean a light switch, on the end of about three and a half feet of electrical cabling.

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Tad Queasy wrote:
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No one said that or implied it and that's kind of an assholish response on your part acting like I did say or imply that


I'm sorry that you thought that was an assholish response, but that seemed like an attempt at justification to which I felt only there was only one response.

Of course its not a justification. You really think i would say if you blow a guy he can rape you for life?

Its certainly germane to the case and also goes to the defenses version of a jealousy thing

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I wonder what the judge said about Hurricane Carter for the crime he didnt commit. Probably something similarly damning.


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I figured wrongful convictions would be brought up. They do happen, and are horrible.

People have said that there was not as much made of the alleged rapes/sexual assaults involving Roethlisberger and Winston because they were not charged. I brought up Tupac in my earlier post because despite the fact that he was charged, people didn't seem to care. Maybe it would have had a more negative impact on his career if it had happened in a time when media and social media coverage were more extensive.

Well that's a whole other discussion. I just don't think that case was as much of a slam dunk as you presented


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With Hurricane hasn't it been proven recently that he was actually guilty. Bob Dylan personally apologized to me.


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Didn't listen much but I heard Dan's obligatory snap at 'momentum'

He LOVES to go on about how momentum is silly and blah blah blah.

Now, I realize that most athletes speak in cliches, but I've heard NUMEROUS athletes repeatedly talk about momentum. They were mocking Ray Lewis for saying it (well, there are a million things to mock him about) and Mike Brown himself said earlier on S&M.

So, elite athletes say that the idea of momentum is real, yet the 5'6" Jewish kid who watches Project Runway and probably has never thrown a football in his life, suddenly knows more about these things than Hall of Famers?

As others have said, wins like the Bears had or big at bats or come from behind wins create confidence. Guys that are playing with confidence and in the 'right headspace' play better - they make better throws, they see pitches better, etc - and that translates to success. Call it momentum, call it confidence. I call it pro athletes knowing more about being successful at their craft than a radio host.


Dan has never said anything about in-game momentum being false. It's game-to-game momentum that he disagrees with. I do too. Sure, your body can get in the zone during a game, but there are too many variables when you're going up to seven days between games to believe that any adrenaline is carrying over from prior games.

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Didn't listen much but I heard Dan's obligatory snap at 'momentum'

He LOVES to go on about how momentum is silly and blah blah blah.

Now, I realize that most athletes speak in cliches, but I've heard NUMEROUS athletes repeatedly talk about momentum. They were mocking Ray Lewis for saying it (well, there are a million things to mock him about) and Mike Brown himself said earlier on S&M.

So, elite athletes say that the idea of momentum is real, yet the 5'6" Jewish kid who watches Project Runway and probably has never thrown a football in his life, suddenly knows more about these things than Hall of Famers?

As others have said, wins like the Bears had or big at bats or come from behind wins create confidence. Guys that are playing with confidence and in the 'right headspace' play better - they make better throws, they see pitches better, etc - and that translates to success. Call it momentum, call it confidence. I call it pro athletes knowing more about being successful at their craft than a radio host.


Dan has never said anything about in-game momentum being false. It's game-to-game momentum that he disagrees with. I do too. Sure, your body can get in the zone during a game, but there are too many variables when you're going up to seven days between games to believe that any adrenaline is carrying over from prior games.


Thank you. For all the threads we have about things like dumb things B&B says or B&B predictions, there really should be an 'imaginary radio' thread as well. Wouldn't be a quarter the size, but I have to imagine it wouldn't take too terribly long to get that one several pages on.

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Dan has never said anything about in-game momentum being false. It's game-to-game momentum that he disagrees with. I do too. Sure, your body can get in the zone during a game, but there are too many variables when you're going up to seven days between games to believe that any adrenaline is carrying over from prior games.


If this is true then he has to at least understand how fighting in hockey could facilitate a swing in the"momentum" of a game.

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But it often doesn't, because the two principals are immediately sent off the ice for 5+ minutes and generally aren't involved on either side of any scoring plays. The only argument for fighting changing momentum would be that the fighters' teammates get off on watching awkward groping between two men, which I suppose isn't impossible, but would have to be down the depth chart behind things like sustained pressure in the offensive end or knocking a guy off the puck really hard. Of what few fights the Hawks had last year, I can't recall any of them leading directly to any sort of improvement in play for the Hawks. Generally it was just someone goading Bollig into a fight, him getting punched, both guys falling down, and nothing of note happening afterward.

I guess I'd say what it can do more than anything, short of fucking an important guy up and taking him out of the game, is throw a wrench into the works when a team is firing on all cylinders, because now you have to stop what you're doing while two guys swing their arms around and start all over. Doesn't make you better, just makes the good team worse.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/09/16/nfl-anheuser-busch-sponsor-domestic-abuse-sponsor/15726217/

"We are disappointed and increasingly concerned by the recent incidents that have overshadowed this NFL season. We are not yet satisfied with the league's handling of behaviors that so clearly go against our own company culture and moral code. We have shared our concerns and expectations with the league."


That's all well and good but unless they actually pull some advertising dollars out it means nothing to the NFL.


Arian Foster put out some funny tweets. He might want to shut up though, I don't know if taking on a sponsor is a good idea. Really kind of wild what's happening in the NFL.


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Lol, Dan's source told him during break that Nike has contacted the NFL. He is so full of shit. This show has been beyond awful. I've had enough of the Vikings/AP talk.


And yet you still apparently listen to a show 'beyond awful'. I'll never quite get that.

Anyway, I get a slight chuckle from Nike supposedly stepping in on a child abuse issue. I mean, I'm sure they treat all the four year olds that make their shoes quite well; what was I thinking.

As for Arian Foster, his tweets come off to me as the product of some sanctimonious pseudo-intellectual douchebag who would probably be better served just running the football instead of running his mouth.

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Didn't listen much but I heard Dan's obligatory snap at 'momentum'

He LOVES to go on about how momentum is silly and blah blah blah.

Now, I realize that most athletes speak in cliches, but I've heard NUMEROUS athletes repeatedly talk about momentum. They were mocking Ray Lewis for saying it (well, there are a million things to mock him about) and Mike Brown himself said earlier on S&M.

So, elite athletes say that the idea of momentum is real, yet the 5'6" Jewish kid who watches Project Runway and probably has never thrown a football in his life, suddenly knows more about these things than Hall of Famers?

As others have said, wins like the Bears had or big at bats or come from behind wins create confidence. Guys that are playing with confidence and in the 'right headspace' play better - they make better throws, they see pitches better, etc - and that translates to success. Call it momentum, call it confidence. I call it pro athletes knowing more about being successful at their craft than a radio host.


Dan has never said anything about in-game momentum being false. It's game-to-game momentum that he disagrees with. I do too. Sure, your body can get in the zone during a game, but there are too many variables when you're going up to seven days between games to believe that any adrenaline is carrying over from prior games.


Thank you. For all the threads we have about things like dumb things B&B says or B&B predictions, there really should be an 'imaginary radio' thread as well. Wouldn't be a quarter the size, but I have to imagine it wouldn't take too terribly long to get that one several pages on.

Im sure Ive heard him mock people for talking about in game momentum.

Ive certainly never head him acknowledge that any sort of momentum exists. The mere mention of the word makes him giggle.


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Don Tiny wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/09/16/nfl-anheuser-busch-sponsor-domestic-abuse-sponsor/15726217/

"We are disappointed and increasingly concerned by the recent incidents that have overshadowed this NFL season. We are not yet satisfied with the league's handling of behaviors that so clearly go against our own company culture and moral code. We have shared our concerns and expectations with the league."


That's all well and good but unless they actually pull some advertising dollars out it means nothing to the NFL.


Arian Foster put out some funny tweets. He might want to shut up though, I don't know if taking on a sponsor is a good idea. Really kind of wild what's happening in the NFL.

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The NFL should really just put a ban on tweeting as a part of its standard contract

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Bernsie is really something. Poor Hub bending over backwards to be nice and explain what may or may not be NFL angle and due process. Bernsie just wants to pounce all the time.


Ham explained the entire line of law on the show a couple of weeks ago but Dan refuses to refer to the direction. Due process doesn't really apply here but there are procedural requirements employers must follow.

If I were arguing the point from his perspective, I look at it simply: you can do what you want to him as long as you pay him. Suspend with pay now to cover whatever moral misgivings you may have and worry about procedure later.

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I only heard 10 minutes of the show, but that 10 minutes included Dan telling race baiting caller Joe to find the imaginary Klansman under his bed and get rid of him. :lol:

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