Arrieta!!

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:24 pm

THE INQUISITOR wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

...

The fuck? You own that corner. Who let you out of there anyway?

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=84892
That is a thread YOU started, bigf..I mean Inquistor. Here are the "predictions" from there in terms of win totals;
79
77-81
plausible to reach .500
77
over 75
76
68
77
78

Two people said that might get to .500-- and guess what-- BRick wasn;t one of them!
"talk about an embarrassment that one is an ALL TIMER" BRick didn't even post in that thread :lol:

An aside; In an incredible twist of fate, Mr Belvidere had the best 'prediction' in that thread

Quote:

Abreu.

Allstar

ROY

In the hunt for MVP.

Nothing else matters to me other than Sale not hurting his arm

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:26 pm

Frank Coztansa wrote:

That is a thread YOU started, bigf..I mean Inquistor.

I regret sending bigfan the PM to suspend THE INQUISITOR for 8 weeks now.

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:27 pm

Quote:

By game score standards, [Arrieta's] score of 97 was the third best performance in the major leagues this season behind only the Madison Bumgarner one-hitter on August 26 and the Clayton Kershaw no-hitter on June 18.

America · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:23 pm

The Reds benched every player from yesterday's game.

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:34 pm

America wrote:

The Reds benched every player from yesterday's game.

Arrieta is so dominant he affects the opposing team on days he does not even pitch.

THE INQUISITOR · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:48 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

That was not a prediction. Not even close.

It was a statement of where they were and how they were now within striking distance of a monumental season.

Please apologize or be prepared for me to PM bigfan to have you banned for 8 weeks.

You said it.... now wear the loss like a man... or go ahead and run to your daddy and cry.... what part of "WE ARE DOING IT" isn't a prediction of .500...I mean everyone can see what you did and now you deny it ... YOU SAID ".500 WE ARE DOING IT" admit your defeat and take the loss ..move on

"3 games from monumental!

It's been a long road to get back to striking distance but we are doing it!"

IMU · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:52 pm

Inquisitor and America are bad.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:21 pm

THE INQUISITOR wrote:

what part of "WE ARE DOING IT" isn't a prediction of .500

The part where I said "we are doing it".

Maybe you don't understand the difference between the words "are" and "will". Now, I wouldn't normally think this but earlier in the thread you cited the minor league win/loss record of the White Sox organization as some sort of evidence of something so I have to leave everything on the table.

The Sox were 3 games away from a monumental season but they were unable to keep up that impressive record and fell off. We are no longer doing it.

To help you out, I have included the definition of "are" at the bottom of my post to avoid confusion.

verb
1.
present indicative plural and 2nd person singular of be.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:38 pm

INQUISITOR has Rick twisting himself in knots. Never thought I'd see the day.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Even if Cub fans were as unrealistic or bias as some suggest (from their glass houses in most cases),who gives a fuck?

I mean I get the friendly banter but you people who are truly bothered by a rival sports teams fans are nuts

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:02 pm

All I know is one pitcher in this debate didn't get lit up this week.

America · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:05 pm

Kirkwood wrote:

All I know is one pitcher in this debate didn't get lit up this week.

It wasn't a debate.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:13 pm

Saying Arrieta is the best pitcher in town is ridiculous.

It's Kyle Hendricks.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:15 pm

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Saying Arrieta is the best pitcher in town is ridiculous.

It's Kyle Hendricks.

After tonight's performance I think he can be added to the debate.

Though we shouldn't forget Neil Ramirez and his 1.35 ERA.

FavreFan · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:33 am

rogers park bryan wrote:

Even if Cub fans were as unrealistic or bias as some suggest (from their glass houses in most cases),who gives a fuck?

I mean I get the friendly banter but you people who are truly bothered by a rival sports teams fans are nuts

I don't think anyone is bothered by it. Maybe weird ass people. I think when people argue their hopes as facts people get annoyed. I hope Arietta is as good as Chris Sale. Why not? That'd be cool. But because he was almost as good for one season as Sale has been for three you have people who are saying he's the as good and even better. Not sure you can blame Sox Subdivision for saying Thays ridiculous.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Even if Cub fans were as unrealistic or bias as some suggest (from their glass houses in most cases),who gives a fuck?

I mean I get the friendly banter but you people who are truly bothered by a rival sports teams fans are nuts

I don't think anyone is bothered by it. Maybe weird ass people. I think when people argue their hopes as facts people get annoyed. I hope Arietta is as good as Chris Sale. Why not? That'd be cool. But because he was almost as good for one season as Sale has been for three you have people who are saying he's the as good and even better. Not sure you can blame Sox Subdivision for saying Thays ridiculous.

Definitely weird

I dont think IMU actually believes it. I think that's just talking shit to a rival team.

But some here have expressed legitmate anger over these types of things

IMU · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:47 am

Arrieta's 2014 has been better than Sale's 2012 or 2013.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:55 am

immessedup17 wrote:

Arrieta's 2014 has been better than Sale's 2012 or 2013.

Trolling or not, this statement is false.

IMU · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:58 am

Frank Coztansa wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

Arrieta's 2014 has been better than Sale's 2012 or 2013.

Trolling or not, this statement is false.

What statistic do you prefer to use?

good dolphin · **Joined:** Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:35 pm **Posts:** 82153

immessedup17 wrote:

Arrieta's 2014 has been better than Sale's 2012 or 2013.

so was samardzija

Hank Scorpio · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:49 am

immessedup17 wrote:

Inquisitor and America are bad.

Agreed. They both need to take lessons at the Good Dolphin School of Chicago Baseball Trolling. My god can that man troll. It's like watching Wood throw the greatest game in MLB history.

Brick · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:50 am

Hank Scorpio wrote:

It's like watching Wood throw the greatest game in MLB history.

I'm pretty sure Jake Arrieta almost throwing a no hitter against a team that didn't care has surpassed that one.

THE INQUISITOR · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:54 am

America wrote:

So did the Royals in 2011. They might squeeze into the playoffs this year. I follow farm systems but I know the success rate on a top 100 player is about 20%.

For the record please define success rate.

Hank Scorpio · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:54 am

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

It's like watching Wood throw the greatest game in MLB history.

I'm pretty sure Jake Arrieta almost throwing a no hitter against a team that didn't care has surpassed that one.

Great point.

IMU · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:02 am

immessedup17 wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

Arrieta's 2014 has been better than Sale's 2012 or 2013.

Trolling or not, this statement is false.

What statistic do you prefer to use?

Do I get an answer?

2014 Arrieta is better than 2012-2013 Sale in ERA, FIP, xFIP, WHIP..

Why is my statement false?

KDdidit · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:39 am

Sale has more wins, duh.

Rod · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:07 pm

immessedup17 wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

immessedup17 wrote:

Arrieta's 2014 has been better than Sale's 2012 or 2013.

Trolling or not, this statement is false.

What statistic do you prefer to use?

Do I get an answer?

2014 Arrieta is better than 2012-2013 Sale in ERA, FIP, xFIP, WHIP..

Why is my statement false?

Because Sale rarely gets to face pitchers. And he plays home games in the same friendly launching pad that you have insisred has helped Abreu all season.

Brick · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:12 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Because Sale rarely gets to face pitchers. And he plays home games in the same friendly launching pad that you have insisred has helped Abreu all season.

Damn. JORR isn't America, but he certainly just America'd IMU.

Frank Coztansa · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:20 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

And he plays home games in the same friendly launching pad that you have insisred has helped Abreu all season.

Even more stupidity from IMU.

Abreu has 34 HRs this year....21 of them have been hit on the road.

Kirkwood · **Posted:** Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:36 pm

Quote:

ERA Minus, FIP Minus, and xFIP Minus are the pitching version of OPS+ and wRC+: a simple way to tell how well a player performed in relation to league average. All of these statistics have a similar scale, where 100 is league average and each point above or below 100 represents a percent above or below league average. However, as lower is better for (almost) all pitching stats, a lower ERA- or FIP- is better.

2014 Jake Arrieta:
ERA-: 71
FIP-: 61

2013 Chris Sale:
ERA-: 72
FIP-: 76

2012 Chris Sale:
ERA-: 74
FIP-: 77

I thought IMU was full of BS when first posting but might have a point.

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