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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:22 pm 
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I haven't heard much of the shows over the last few days. What I've heard is Terry following Dan's lead as always. I know Dan doesn't spank his kids. That's obvious. I would have guessed that before the NFL problems. But I'm betting Terry spanked his kids. Also betting Terry's old man hit him. But it's cool to follow Dan's lead in saying that people who do it are scum even if it doesn't reflect Terry's ways or the ways of Terry's Dad.

Just wondering. Did he outright say it? If he didn't then he did and his dad did. Cuz that would be something you would say if you're going strong on this thing.


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Has Beardown ever said "I won't start ten B&B threads this week when I could keep all my insane ramblings into one"?

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Has Beardown ever said "I won't start ten B&B threads this week when I could keep all my insane ramblings into one"?

You don't think that's a valid question Greg?

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redskingreg wrote:
Has Beardown ever said "I won't start ten B&B threads this week when I could keep all my insane ramblings into one"?

You don't think that's a valid question Greg?


Terry has no obligation to talk about his personal life on air in my opinion. A majority of people who were
abused by their parents don't go around wearing it like some kind of badge of honor.

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I haven't heard much of the shows over the last few days. What I've heard is Terry following Dan's lead as always. I know Dan doesn't spank his kids. That's obvious. I would have guessed that before the NFL problems. But I'm betting Terry spanked his kids. Also betting Terry's old man hit him. But it's cool to follow Dan's lead in saying that people who do it are scum even if it doesn't reflect Terry's ways or the ways of Terry's Dad.

Just wondering. Did he outright say it? If he didn't then he did and his dad did. Cuz that would be something you would say if you're going strong on this thing.


Dont care if he did or didnt, dont really care about Dans alleged knowledge on the issue and why it is wrong, because I am sure Bernstein has backed up some claims with some research papers on spanking. (.....ok thats a tip in)

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He said something like he didn't or didn't do it very often.

It really wouldn't matter. We know a lot more now then we did back then. It's the same reason why it no longer is acceptable to let kids sit in the front seat but it was before. The science improves and so does the safety of cars.

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He said something like he didn't or didn't do it very often.

It really wouldn't matter. We know a lot more now then we did back then. It's the same reason why it no longer is acceptable to let kids sit in the front seat but it was before. The science improves and so does the safety of cars.

The science of spanking!

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Terry quite clearly said he did not.

Although I don't find myself believing him.

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He said he didn't. I believe him, why not?

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Beardown wrote:
I haven't heard much of the shows over the last few days. What I've heard is Terry following Dan's lead as always. I know Dan doesn't spank his kids. That's obvious. I would have guessed that before the NFL problems. But I'm betting Terry spanked his kids. Also betting Terry's old man hit him. But it's cool to follow Dan's lead in saying that people who do it are scum even if it doesn't reflect Terry's ways or the ways of Terry's Dad.

Just wondering. Did he outright say it? If he didn't then he did and his dad did. Cuz that would be something you would say if you're going strong on this thing.


I thought he said he didn't spank his kids. But after listening to the Podcast, he was talking about spanking his monkey :shock:


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He said he didn't. I believe him, why not?


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We dont spank our kids, I was rarely spanked as a child. That being said, I dont know if I'm comfortable comparing an open palmed swat to your kids butt to beating them bloody with a stick.

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We dont spank our kids, I was rarely spanked as a child. That being said, I dont know if I'm comfortable comparing an open palmed swat to your kids butt to beating them bloody with a stick.


as opposed to a closed palmed swat? What? You need to specify your swat? How do you swat with an closed hand?

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We dont spank our kids, I was rarely spanked as a child. That being said, I dont know if I'm comfortable comparing an open palmed swat to your kids butt to beating them bloody with a stick.


as opposed to a closed palmed swat? What? You need to specify your swat? How do you swat with an closed hand?


Yeah I guess, I was just trying to differentiate between a true spank on the butt to something more resembling a punch. I've never seen someone spank their kid on the butt in public and been morally outraged.

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I'm just glad my parents didn't cite being constantly surrounded by asbestos and lead paint as the reason they turned out to be what they were.

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I'm just glad my parents didn't cite being constantly surrounded by asbestos and lead paint as the reason they turned out to be what they were.


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Whether you spank or not...does not define you as a whole as a parent. Dan will disagree.


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Not saying Terry has to apologize. And I realize that the studies Dan likes to cite weren't available in the 80s and 90s when Terry was raising kids. So parents thought they were doing the right thing. "Time Outs"? When did they start? Early this century I would guess. Just saying Terry is quick to repeat Dan's take that parents were scum bags back in the 80s and 90s when Terry probably spanked his kids as well.


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back in the 80s and 90s when Terry probably spanked his kids as well.


why do you say this?

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I think the new school discipline works fine if used responisbly and consistently. Time outs work great for us, but we stick to our guns on duration (we started with like a minute and now we go to 2-3 minutes, he acts like he got 25 to life :lol: ) and we dont use it for everything. I have friends and family that use time outs stupidly. A kid spills a cup of juice and they are in time out... What's the point, he didnt mean to do it you are just using it as revenge for him having an accident and because you are pissed you have to clean the carpet.

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back in the 80s and 90s when Terry probably spanked his kids as well.


why do you say this?


Cuz that's what I think. Just like Terry and Dan think that Ray Rice has hit his wife more than that one time even though they don't have any evidence.


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that would be like Dan and Terry thinking Jay Cutler hits his wife. there is no evidence to support it.

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Cuz that's what I think. Just like Terry and Dan think that Ray Rice has hit his wife more than that one time even though they don't have any evidence.
There is reason to think that is likely. They even explained why.

1) Rice seems relatively unphased by the whole thing.
2) Most people who hit women do it more than once.
3) His choice of venue to hit his wife indicates he isn't even that interested in hiding it. You don't think he'd do the same thing in his home?

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Back in the 80s there were rumors that he spanked one of his sons so hard that an elbow patch popped off his corduroy sports jacket. No witnesses though.

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T-Bone wrote:
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redskingreg wrote:
Has Beardown ever said "I won't start ten B&B threads this week when I could keep all my insane ramblings into one"?

You don't think that's a valid question Greg?


Terry has no obligation to talk about his personal life on air in my opinion. A majority of people who were
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Spanking = abusing? That's ridiculous.


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He said he didn't. I believe him, why not?


Simply because I'm sure Bernstein has declared that anyone who doesn't have a feeling session with their children and don't do exactly what he does is in favor of child abuse.

I'm sure Boers doesn't care to have that debate even if he did feel differently.


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
We dont spank our kids, I was rarely spanked as a child. That being said, I dont know if I'm comfortable comparing an open palmed swat to your kids butt to beating them bloody with a stick.


That's because it's a stupid comparison. Not sensible.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Cuz that's what I think. Just like Terry and Dan think that Ray Rice has hit his wife more than that one time even though they don't have any evidence.
There is reason to think that is likely. They even explained why.

1) Rice seems relatively unphased by the whole thing.
2) Most people who hit women do it more than once.
3) His choice of venue to hit his wife indicates he isn't even that interested in hiding it. You don't think he'd do the same thing in his home?


Fine. Very logical. I think it's likely too. Still no concrete evidence, though.

My reasoning that Terry spanked his kids.

1. It was the 1980s when spankings were more of the norm and accepted by society.

2. Terry is an idiot. Thus he wouldn't have been one of the few "Evolved parents" of that time that used alternative forms of punishment.

3. He had 4 boys. They have Boers blood. So they must have misbehaved a lot.


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Beardown wrote:
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Beardown wrote:
Cuz that's what I think. Just like Terry and Dan think that Ray Rice has hit his wife more than that one time even though they don't have any evidence.
There is reason to think that is likely. They even explained why.

1) Rice seems relatively unphased by the whole thing.
2) Most people who hit women do it more than once.
3) His choice of venue to hit his wife indicates he isn't even that interested in hiding it. You don't think he'd do the same thing in his home?


Fine. Very logical. I think it's likely too. Still no concrete evidence, though.



Stop. Just fucking stop. There's no "concrete evidence" for 99% of the drivel you post, man.

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Beardown wrote:
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back in the 80s and 90s when Terry probably spanked his kids as well.


why do you say this?


Cuz that's what I think. Just like Terry and Dan think that Ray Rice has hit his wife more than that one time even though they don't have any evidence.


Terry was able to judge that Rice's actions in the elevator showed he has beat his girlfriend more than once (by his lack of emotion, and way he dragged her out).

I tend to agree that he probably has beaten her on more than 1 occasion, but there's no way you can draw any conclusions from a 5 second elevator clip.


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