You want a response?

Here goes:

I'm fairly sure you do not know what the word literally means.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

The word 'dominant' also seems to be occupying a weak spot in your vocabulary. Call it a wash.

This BizzaroWhiteAndProud clown is like an ice cream cone in Herbs hands on a 90 degree day....literally.

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Kenny Williams fell for the banana in the tailpipe

This thread is amusing because it basically says "In year 6 of our rebuilding project we should start to see some results on the field". Well, congratulations!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Alcantara continues to hit a homerun about every 25 AB's and play plus defense. That is not "cant play"


Hendricks wasnt on the team all year. Theyve been essentially a .500 team since he came up.



Well, like we said, they are already a .500 type team in second half. Now add Soler, Bryant, and probably a starting pitcher. Maybe that takes you from 80 wins to 87. Only need 82 to contend anyway.


Travis Wood is a perfectly good 4-5 starter.

Lescherzer
Arrieta
Hendricks
Wood
Edwards/Johnson/Jackson/Turner


Not a world beating rotation, but nothing to sneeze at

year 4

Cant really count Hendry years as rebuilding

Of course you can when multiple key pieces for the plan are coming from that era and the results of that era.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Why would you trade for an expensive pitcher when you could sign one?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

That's hardly "for sure" but I will grant you that it looks like he turned a corner in his career.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Javier Baez looking a lot like Brett Jackson did a few short years ago.

It is not OK to strikeout constantly.

Look this name up in Cubs history: Glen Beckert

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Almost there?

How about the Cubs get to .500 before you start chirping.

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Maybe he means the base is almost setup. They can now search out the missing veteran pieces to make the team whole.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Right, jimmy, but striking out was an embarrassment in that era. The latest fetish is "seeing pitches" and most of the time seeing them results in a strikeout. Guys strike out more than ever. And they're not even walking more. It's an awful brand of baseball. The baseball equivalent of the Detroit Pistons "uglying up" the game.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

+100

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

What?

They werent rebuilding. They were trying to win in those years. See Garza trade


Its not like when you start a rebuild you get rid of the entire minor leagues. Of course there are going to be players left over

The point is the rebuild didnt begin until 2011

Except for the homeruns

I still enjoy the game very much. Doesnt have near the effect that a team like the Pistons or later The Knicks had on single games, imo

I don't mean they were intentionally trying to lose in the first two years but it would be crazy to not acknowledge the significance of those two losing seasons right now.

Anyways, change it to "in year 6 of losing we should start to see some results on the field" if calling it a rebuilding project offends you.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Nothing offends me. They've been rebuilding for 4 years. Its just a fact.


Its been 7 since they won anything.

Isn't that a variation on my argument that offense in the space of a single game is negligible? You're right. Baseball is a game of time and repetition. The best hitter ever can strike out four times in a game and an utter turd can go 4 for 4. All off the same pitcher.

My larger point is that the fetishization of the walk is ruining the game for the spectator. I don't know anyone- no matter how SABRmetrically inclined- that pays his money to go see guys walk. And the worst part is, they aren't even walking any more than they ever have. They're simply seeing more pitches. And that often results in a strike out. The other result- and this one is intended- is that the top pitchers (starters) are leaving the games sooner. So now, I've paid my money to see Bellasario, Putnam, and Petricka rather than Sale. It may be a nice strategy to win ballgames, but it sucks for the viewer. And in that way, it's very much like "The Jordan Rules".

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Im used to it. Been this way for a while.

It doesnt bother me

BS. Remember when I said divorced fatherdom was easier.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I was trolling. Its way easier.

I don't view the first couple of Ricketts years with Hendry as part of the current rebuild. It was an entirely different management team with an entirely different method. Being bad doesn't necessarily mean you're in a rebuild. Those Cubs teams were simply bad.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

Once again, you can be rebuilding without knowing it at the start of the year. The Sox have tried to win every year but they are pretty clearly already rebuilding and have been the past two years.

Take out those two years of bad for the Cubs and all of a sudden the plan looks much less far along.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Only three players (maybe two) from that era will even by on the team next year - Castillo, Castro and Baez. How does the plan look less far along?

If you want to phrase it differently, Theo and Jed had to rebuild a rebuilding project.

Either way, next year is Year 4.

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Rick Hahn is the best GM in baseball.

So, you're saying any year where a team is bad is automatically considered a rebuilding year whether they thought it was at the beginning of the year or not?

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You know me like that.

Since I'm talking about what resulted from those seasons you can take out Albert Almora too.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

No.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

How can you tell the difference?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don