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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:31 pm 
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Also, the financing rates were better for new cars rather than used cars.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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How many haymakers can SomeGuy take here?

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How many haymakers can SomeGuy take here?
He can't even respond any more. Throw the damn towel!

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How many haymakers can SomeGuy take here?
He can't even respond any more. Throw the damn towel!

He is nothing of his former self, it is a extremely sad turn of events.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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The bottom line is that there's nothing wrong with buying new or used. You can get screwed buying new or used and you can get great deals buying new or used. Be an informed consumer and you won't have to rely on morons like us for opinions.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
How many haymakers can SomeGuy take here?
He can't even respond any more. Throw the damn towel!


Still a bad deal. At least for the majority of schlubs out there. So before I get my orbital bone fractured I will restate it as such and then hitch a ride outta here with the FanMan.

Schlub= 72 month loan with little down on a 30k car. I've had foolish friends that buy with zero down and pay 400 a month for 6 years. That's a bad deal.

But even as BRICK showed it's close to a wash.


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Schlub= 72 month loan with little down on a 30k car. I've had foolish friends that buy with zero down and pay 400 a month for 6 years. That's a bad deal.


What was the OTD price of that vehicle? If it was $27,000, that is a great deal. $25 a month interest - nbd. Your average American consumer pays more than that in credit card interest monthly.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Schlub= 72 month loan with little down on a 30k car. I've had foolish friends that buy with zero down and pay 400 a month for 6 years. That's a bad deal.


Why is that a bad deal?
When i've financed a car purchase, i put nothing down. 2 cars had zero interest, 2 had 1.9%, 1 with 2.24%. Putting money down made no sense.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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How many haymakers can SomeGuy take here?
He can't even respond any more. Throw the damn towel!


Still a bad deal. At least for the majority of schlubs out there. So before I get my orbital bone fractured I will restate it as such and then hitch a ride outta here with the FanMan.

Schlub= 72 month loan with little down on a 30k car. I've had foolish friends that buy with zero down and pay 400 a month for 6 years. That's a bad deal.

But even as BRICK showed it's close to a wash.



As Brick showed, it all depends on the car and model you are buying and what interest rate you are paying for the car.

I know it's rare, and I understand and feel a little dirty myself, but agreeing with Brick here is the the correct choice.

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http://jalopnik.com/2015-audi-s3-the-ja ... 1637059502

I'm sold!

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Getting our deposit mailed back to us and starting this process over. Really dodged a bullet there!

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Getting our deposit mailed back to us and starting this process over. Really dodged a bullet there!

That's good. Did you actually get offers near $17K or are you going private party?

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Getting our deposit mailed back to us and starting this process over. Really dodged a bullet there!

That's good. Did you actually get offers near $17K or are you going private party?


We're going to Carmax this weekend to see what they will offer. If the price is right we will sell. If not we might try a private sale. Know anyone who wants to buy a gently used Toyota Tacoma dual cab? 20k or best offer.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Went to Carmax. Apparently the car was in an accident that I didn't know about. Offered 14k. Maybe Honda wasn't trying to fuck me...

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Did they provide accident details?

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Apparently the hood isn't the original hood, and the back fender isn't the original fender. No reported accidents but they think something happened to the car.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Hood and fender? That doesn't make sense in an accident.

Could be dented from hail for hood? Backing into something for rear bumper?

Negotiating tactic.

No one in the history of car dealers has ever inspected a used car that much unless an accident was reported.

We're back to Carmax sucking.

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Hood and fender? That doesn't make sense in an accident.

Could be dented from hail for hood? Backing into something for rear bumper?

Negotiating tactic.

No one in the history of car dealers has ever inspected a used car that much unless an accident was reported.

We're back to Carmax sucking.


Wouldn't it be easy to tell? I think lying about parts like that would be too risky and open them up to lawsuits or something. I assume all it takes is a check of serial numbers or brand insignia to verify whether parts are original or not.

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Hood and fender? That doesn't make sense in an accident.

Could be dented from hail for hood? Backing into something for rear bumper?

Negotiating tactic.

No one in the history of car dealers has ever inspected a used car that much unless an accident was reported.

We're back to Carmax sucking.


Car was in New Mexico for a couple of years prior to our coming into possession of it. Could likely be hail damage because they said no accident was reported. Should I run a Carfax to be sure?

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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I'm not saying they are lying. I'm saying it doesn't sound like an accident. Insurance can replace hail damage hoods for just a cheap deductible, and it is likely someone that cares about their car would do that. The rear bumper is harder to explain, but probably just backed into something at low speed. Any "rear ended" accident would be reported, as it wouldn't have been "at fault" on the part of the truck.

There would be absolutely no structural / frame damage from these two happenings. I understand them wanting to knock a little bit off of a normal trade-in, but this seems a bit much.

If traded in for $14,000, you bet your ass Carmax is listing it for $22,995 the next day.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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I'm not saying they are lying. I'm saying it doesn't sound like an accident. Insurance can replace hail damage hoods for just a cheap deductible, and it is likely someone that cares about their car would do that. The rear bumper is harder to explain, but probably just backed into something at low speed. Any "rear ended" accident would be reported, as it wouldn't have been "at fault" on the part of the truck.

There would be absolutely no structural / frame damage from these two happenings. I understand them wanting to knock a little bit off of a normal trade-in, but this seems a bit much.

If traded in for $14,000, you bet your ass Carmax is listing it for $22,995 the next day.


Probably should just sell the damn thing my own self.

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Car is up on Craigslist now.

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I'd ignore what the two different car experts say after they've inspected the car.

IMU is pretty much guaranteed to know what he's talking about after reading about somebody else's inspection of the car on a message board.

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Since when do car experts work at dealerships and Carmax?

If Spiral wants to know the details, he will check a Carfax and hire an independent inspector.

I'm sorry you're offended about my interest and knowledge in the car business. But I grew up with it. And I don't mind sharing it.

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 Post subject: Re: New Car Shopping
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Wait - you're talking about cost savings and you bring up Carmax? Are you serious?

That's silly.


Didn't say cost savings, learn to read more good. I simply said that they are a place that does a good job maintenance wise and they have good standards for the cars they put out on their lots. Their trade ins are usually more than fair, just don't get suckered in by their protection plan.

They do a horrible job maintenance wise, they put cars on the lot with problems they missed, and their extended warranty is one of the best. Other than that you nailed it.


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Wait - you're talking about cost savings and you bring up Carmax? Are you serious?

That's silly.


Didn't say cost savings, learn to read more good. I simply said that they are a place that does a good job maintenance wise and they have good standards for the cars they put out on their lots. Their trade ins are usually more than fair, just don't get suckered in by their protection plan.

They do a horrible job maintenance wise, they put cars on the lot with problems they missed, and their extended warranty is one of the best. Other than that you nailed it.


Their protection plan is a rip off. Their maintenance on cars is as good as a manufacturers certified pre owned. Other than that you nailed it.

Thank you for your input.


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A lot of heating up in the car shopping thread.

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A lot of heating up in the car shopping thread.


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