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Do you believe in Theo's Plan
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I dont doubt that Theo could win a World Series or build a perennial contender with the Cubs. I wouldnt doubt any GM with a successful past. But sucking for at least 3 years is unnecessary.


I don't completely disagree, but if they won a WS, would you be willing to go back and take that chance for a few years of being decent?

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this thread is falling off the rails


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White Sox still won it first, suckers


In modern times,not in History.

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White Sox still won it first, suckers


I can sense your anxiety.

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this thread is falling off the rails


Can a thread comprised entirely of horrible thoughts still be good? Even when it's wrong, it's right!

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I dont doubt that Theo could win a World Series or build a perennial contender with the Cubs. I wouldnt doubt any GM with a successful past. But sucking for at least 3 years is unnecessary.


I don't completely disagree, but if they won a WS, would you be willing to go back and take that chance for a few years of being decent?

Not even a few years. If they were .500ish this year that would be reasonable I think


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it'll be tainted to me because of what they're doing to Wrigley Field and to their neighborhood. They're killing the golden goose of the Wrigley experience

They're running a baseball team, not a museum or a neighborhood.


Right. And they make more money than any other team because they play in a museum in a neighborhood that no other baseball team has.

How did you decide that they make more money than any other team.

http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/li ... esc_search:

Forbes has them eighth in operating income.

Wait...is this now one of those threads that has you making up a bunch of financial shit like you did with Facebook?

I opt out.

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I love that jimmypasta and IMU both think the plan is a failure if they win one WS, but for hugely different reasons.


Was RPB trying to apply to Team Cocaine with his work in this thread? Gotta think hes a lock if so.

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I'm going to get shit for this from both sides of town, but even if the Cubs win the World Series in the future (and I don't think they will with this bunch), it'll be tainted to me because of what they're doing to Wrigley Field and to their neighborhood. They're killing the golden goose of the Wrigley experience, they're insulting people's intelligence, and they're treating a living neighborhood as their personal theme park. It sucks. I hate these owners so much.


Of all the statements in this thread, this caught my eye.

If the Cubs win the World Series and as a fan you feel it's diminished because the Cubs added a video board or a few signs that end up disrupting the view of the rooftop bleachers, then I assert that you are not really a Cubs fan. Instead you are a Wrigley Field fan or Wrigleyville fan.

I couldn't care less if the Cubs won the World Series in Wrigley, Rosemont or the Cell. If the Cubs win the World Series at Wrigley with a video board replaying the last out, are you really going to think "Yeah they won, but look at the replay!"


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When the Cubs win and they are showing the replay on the video board, I will be crying and jumping around like a maniac. Literally my last thought would be about Wrigley Field or Wrigleyville.

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If the Cubs win the World Series and as a fan you feel it's diminished because the Cubs added a video board or a few signs that end up disrupting the view of the rooftop bleachers, then I assert that you are not really a Cubs fan. Instead you are a Wrigley Field fan or Wrigleyville fan.

I couldn't care less if the Cubs won the World Series in Wrigley, Rosemont or the Cell. If the Cubs win the World Series at Wrigley with a video board replaying the last out, are you really going to think "Yeah they won, but look at the replay!"


But when you say dumb shit like this, can't I just flip it and say you're not a Cubs fan, you're a fan of Chicago-based National League baseball? Because it's all about the gestalt with the Cubs: the park, the neighborhood, the losing legacy, WGN, the dopey fans, all of it. It's a package deal. If I didn't give a shit about all the stuff that makes the Cubs the Cubs, I'd just be an Oakland A's fan because they don't suck like the Cubs do and I like their GM and their hat. "I wouldn't care if they won it in Rosemont," fuuuuuuck you.

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Curious Hair wrote:
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If the Cubs win the World Series and as a fan you feel it's diminished because the Cubs added a video board or a few signs that end up disrupting the view of the rooftop bleachers, then I assert that you are not really a Cubs fan. Instead you are a Wrigley Field fan or Wrigleyville fan.

I couldn't care less if the Cubs won the World Series in Wrigley, Rosemont or the Cell. If the Cubs win the World Series at Wrigley with a video board replaying the last out, are you really going to think "Yeah they won, but look at the replay!"


But when you say dumb shit like this, can't I just flip it and say you're not a Cubs fan, you're a fan of Chicago-based National League baseball? Because it's all about the gestalt with the Cubs: the park, the neighborhood, the losing legacy, WGN, the dopey fans, all of it. It's a package deal. If I didn't give a shit about all the stuff that makes the Cubs the Cubs, I'd just be an Oakland A's fan because they don't suck like the Cubs do and I like their GM and their hat. "I wouldn't care if they won it in Rosemont," fuuuuuuck you.

So, hypothetically, if Wrigley got hit by a freak weather event and was destroyed, you would cease to be a Cub fan?

Or do I have that wrong?

And you dont have to cling to negatives to stay a Cub fan. You could just stay a Cub fan because generally in our culture, we like to be loyal in those situations.


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"I wouldn't care if they won it in Rosemont," fuuuuuuck you.

:lol: Awesome.

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22-7 so far in favor of Theo. Sort of surprised by this, I thought it would be closer.


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"I wouldn't care if they won it in Rosemont," fuuuuuuck you.

:lol: Awesome.

What is awesome about that?

Im not a Tear down Wrigley guy but CH is clearly waaaaay more into the Wrigley experience than the baseball team


He's literally saying he'd be unhappy with a Cubs World Series if it happened in another park


Far more deserving of the fuuuuuuuck you, imo

Im sure the generations of dead people who never saw them win would have my back on that.


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Advocating a relocation to Rosemont just checks off all my asshole boxes. People who think baseball owners should be accountable to no one but themselves by dint of their sheer wealth? People who want to take things away from Chicago and add them to the suburbs? The idea that you should go to a baseball game to watch TV? More traffic and parking lots blighting the earth? These Cubs fans sound like Braves fans.

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22-7 so far in favor of Theo. Sort of surprised by this, I thought it would be closer.

Personally, I dont trust those results.

I believe some non Cub fans may have voted.

Judging by the responses Id say its about 50-50 for

But this started with a definition that included believing "that the losing was necessary and the right way to rebuild."


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Advocating a relocation to Rosemont just checks off all my asshole boxes. People who think baseball owners should be accountable to no one but themselves by dint of their sheer wealth? People who want to take things away from Chicago and add them to the suburbs? The idea that you should go to a baseball game to watch TV? More traffic and parking lots blighting the earth? These Cubs fans sound like Braves fans.

I agree on all that but I just feel like, being 106 years and all, the Cubs and Cub fans are the last ones to be making specific demands about how and where they want to finally win one


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Advocating a relocation to Rosemont just checks off all my asshole boxes. People who think baseball owners should be accountable to no one but themselves by dint of their sheer wealth? People who want to take things away from Chicago and add them to the suburbs? The idea that you should go to a baseball game to watch TV? More traffic and parking lots blighting the earth? These Cubs fans sound like Braves fans.

I agree on all that but I just feel like, being 106 years and all, the Cubs and Cub fans are the last ones to be making specific demands about how and where they want to finally win one
Wrigley Field basically defines the Cubs though. I can't blame a guy for not being happy that is going away.

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Advocating a relocation to Rosemont just checks off all my asshole boxes. People who think baseball owners should be accountable to no one but themselves by dint of their sheer wealth? People who want to take things away from Chicago and add them to the suburbs? The idea that you should go to a baseball game to watch TV? More traffic and parking lots blighting the earth? These Cubs fans sound like Braves fans.

Get 'em CH

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Advocating a relocation to Rosemont just checks off all my asshole boxes. People who think baseball owners should be accountable to no one but themselves by dint of their sheer wealth? People who want to take things away from Chicago and add them to the suburbs? The idea that you should go to a baseball game to watch TV? More traffic and parking lots blighting the earth? These Cubs fans sound like Braves fans.

Get 'em CH


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All this Team Cocaine talk apparently has me jonesing for a bump.

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22-7 so far in favor of Theo. Sort of surprised by this, I thought it would be closer.

Personally, I dont trust those results.

I believe some non Cub fans may have voted.

Judging by the responses Id say its about 50-50 for

But this started with a definition that included believing "that the losing was necessary and the right way to rebuild."


So you think the non-Cubs fans are voting FOR Theo?


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Advocating a relocation to Rosemont just checks off all my asshole boxes. People who think baseball owners should be accountable to no one but themselves by dint of their sheer wealth? People who want to take things away from Chicago and add them to the suburbs? The idea that you should go to a baseball game to watch TV? More traffic and parking lots blighting the earth? These Cubs fans sound like Braves fans.

I agree on all that but I just feel like, being 106 years and all, the Cubs and Cub fans are the last ones to be making specific demands about how and where they want to finally win one
Wrigley Field basically defines the Cubs though. I can't blame a guy for not being happy that is going away.

I am. Now maybe we can replace the current definition of the Cubs with "perennial winner."

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Bucky Chris wrote:
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22-7 so far in favor of Theo. Sort of surprised by this, I thought it would be closer.

Personally, I dont trust those results.

I believe some non Cub fans may have voted.

Judging by the responses Id say its about 50-50 for

But this started with a definition that included believing "that the losing was necessary and the right way to rebuild."


So you think the non-Cubs fans are voting FOR Theo?

Yes. This started with JORR trying to say that all Cub fans are being conned by Theo

I said that there is a significant portion of fans who dont worhip Theo. This thread was his response.

A YES vote means that you think Theo is a genius and that losing on purpose is the right way and furthermore, the only way to build a contender. Also you think they are all but guaranteed of success


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I am. Now maybe we can replace the current definition of the Cubs with "perennial winner."
If that fails though you gave up a lot.

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