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I thought letting the nutjob climb the fence and bust into the White House was bad enough, but now this?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

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A security contractor with a gun and three prior convictions for assault and battery was allowed on an elevator with President Barack Obama during a Sept. 16 trip to Atlanta, violating Secret Service protocols, according to three people familiar with the incident.

The private contractor first aroused the agents' concerns when he was acting oddly and did not comply with their orders that he stop using a phone camera to videotape the president in the elevator, according to the people familiar with the incident.

When the elevator opened, Obama left with most of his Secret Service detail. Some agents stayed behind to question the man, and then used a national database check to learn of his criminal history.

When a supervisor from the firm providing security at the CDC approached and discovered the agents' concerns, the contractor was fired on the spot. Then the contractor agreed to turn over his gun — surprising agents, who had not realized he was armed during his encounter with Obama.




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 Post subject: Re: Secret Service
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It was funny to watch the senators go apeshit on the Director yesterday...this is one of those topics that both sides of the aisle can agree on and let the grandstanding fly. "You said your men showed tremendous restraint in dealing with Gonzalez...I don't want them showing tremendous restraint -- I want them using overwhelming force!" :lol:

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It was funny to watch the senators go apeshit on the Director yesterday...this is one of those topics that both sides of the aisle can agree on and let the grandstanding fly. "You said your men showed tremendous restraint in dealing with Gonzalez...I don't want them showing tremendous restraint -- I want them using overwhelming force!" :lol:

Opening fire on someone in an elevator with the President in it seems like a recipe for disaster. Plus I think it would be a bigger story if they killed someone that was that close to the President rather than just letting a nutso near him.


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She gone...the Director just resigned.

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 Post subject: Re: Secret Service
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2014: The Year of the Elevator


Now all we need is some scandalous love in an elevator.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
2014: The Year of the Elevator


Now all we need is some scandalous love in an elevator.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
It was funny to watch the senators go apeshit on the Director yesterday...this is one of those topics that both sides of the aisle can agree on and let the grandstanding fly. "You said your men showed tremendous restraint in dealing with Gonzalez...I don't want them showing tremendous restraint -- I want them using overwhelming force!" :lol:

Opening fire on someone in an elevator with the President in it seems like a recipe for disaster. Plus I think it would be a bigger story if they killed someone that was that close to the President rather than just letting a nutso near him.



They were talking about the fence jumper. They did not even find out the elevator guy had a gun until way AFTER during an interview about his weird behavior taking pics in elevator.

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KDdidit wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
It was funny to watch the senators go apeshit on the Director yesterday...this is one of those topics that both sides of the aisle can agree on and let the grandstanding fly. "You said your men showed tremendous restraint in dealing with Gonzalez...I don't want them showing tremendous restraint -- I want them using overwhelming force!" :lol:

Opening fire on someone in an elevator with the President in it seems like a recipe for disaster. Plus I think it would be a bigger story if they killed someone that was that close to the President rather than just letting a nutso near him.


How about not let the man on the elevator? How about locking the doors to the WH or shoot anyone that manages to hop a fence and enter the WH?

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 Post subject: Re: Secret Service
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Nas wrote:
How about not let the man on the elevator? How about locking the doors to the WH or shoot anyone that manages to hop a fence and enter the WH?

This all seems like common sense stuff:

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 Post subject: Re: Secret Service
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Who knows how many screw-ups through the years we don't know about?


no kidding like that thing in the 60's that they almost lost control of

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One of the talking heads I saw commented he was surprised Obama has lasted this long.

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They wouldn't be letting this happen if the president weren't half black.

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 Post subject: Re: Secret Service
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They need more training. I wonder how much mistakes they've made in the last 30 years that we don't know about.

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Nas wrote:
They need more training. I wonder how much mistakes they've made in the last 30 years that we don't know about.


much bigger list than we will ever know. there are documentaries about secret service close calls, there are dozens of incidents that nearly went very wrong... and thats only the ones they admit to. its amazing how well they have performed, honestly. they never seem to have all their bases covered yet i suppose they have enough because usually nothing happens.

i do give them a break in the sense that it is by far the most difficult security job on the planet....

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Not at the WH. They've let people enter parties and get near the president that shouldn't have been there. On the road may be tough but at home should be easy.

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One of the talking heads I saw commented he was surprised Obama has lasted this long.

Gotta be this guy, right?

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They need more training. I wonder how much mistakes they've made in the last 30 years that we don't know about.


much bigger list than we will ever know. there are documentaries about secret service close calls, there are dozens of incidents that nearly went very wrong... and thats only the ones they admit to. its amazing how well they have performed, honestly. they never seem to have all their bases covered yet i suppose they have enough because usually nothing happens.

i do give them a break in the sense that it is by far the most difficult security job on the planet....



That's not an easy fence to jump. And the gates are supposed to be manned at all times.

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One of the talking heads I saw commented he was surprised Obama has lasted this long.

That person needs to be checked.

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I bet the security has been incompetent for atleast the last 20 years but it gets out more now.

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I bet the security has been incompetent for atleast the last 20 years but it gets out more now.


yeah they were doing a great job when kennedy was killed and ragan was shot at

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This may be a bigger issue than we can imagine.

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I thought letting the nutjob climb the fence and bust into the White House was bad enough, but now this?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

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A security contractor with a gun and three prior convictions for assault and battery was allowed on an elevator with President Barack Obama during a Sept. 16 trip to Atlanta, violating Secret Service protocols, according to three people familiar with the incident.

The private contractor first aroused the agents' concerns when he was acting oddly and did not comply with their orders that he stop using a phone camera to videotape the president in the elevator, according to the people familiar with the incident.

When the elevator opened, Obama left with most of his Secret Service detail. Some agents stayed behind to question the man, and then used a national database check to learn of his criminal history.

When a supervisor from the firm providing security at the CDC approached and discovered the agents' concerns, the contractor was fired on the spot. Then the contractor agreed to turn over his gun — surprising agents, who had not realized he was armed during his encounter with Obama.




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