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The scariest aspect of this story so far for me is the homeless guy that was in the ambulance directly after the Dallas guy that they couldn't find for something like 5 days. Who knows where the hell that guy went?

That's like something from a bad movie.

You think he was fucking a lot of people?


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
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The scariest aspect of this story so far for me is the homeless guy that was in the ambulance directly after the Dallas guy that they couldn't find for something like 5 days. Who knows where the hell that guy went?

That's like something from a bad movie.

You think he was fucking a lot of people?


I know that in my fan fiction he was.

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Another nurse has Ebola

A very creepy person named Clay Jenkins is on tv talking about it


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Market dropped over 100 points this morning when the news broke. Will be interesting to see how much pressure builds to implement a travel ban from Africa. Right now there are 10,000 cases and 5,000 deaths but the projection is that those would be the weekly totals in a couple of months.

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I am not the least bit concerned about this becoming a major US outbreak. Is that weird?

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Market dropped over 100 points this morning when the news broke. Will be interesting to see how much pressure builds to implement a travel ban from Africa. Right now there are 10,000 cases and 5,000 deaths but the projection is that those would be the weekly totals in a couple of months.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I am not the least bit concerned about this becoming a major US outbreak. Is that weird?

I feel the same way.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I am not the least bit concerned about this becoming a major US outbreak. Is that weird?


A little bit, yeah.

It could happen. It's only a matter of time before someone else who traveled in Africa breaks out with it here in the US. As it worsens there, the US cases will become more commonplace. I don't think it will be major, either, but I am a bit concerned.

I think as long as it's only transferrable when symptoms are evident, that the US health care system should be able to prevent widespread problems. Although, the hospital in Texas is not making me feel better about that stance.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I am not the least bit concerned about this becoming a major US outbreak. Is that weird?


A little bit, yeah.

It could happen. It's only a matter of time before someone else who traveled in Africa breaks out with it here in the US. As it worsens there, the US cases will become more commonplace. I don't think it will be major, either, but I am a bit concerned.

I think as long as it's only transferrable when symptoms are evident, that the US health care system should be able to prevent widespread problems. Although, the hospital in Texas is not making me feel better about that stance.

Yeah, but Texas...

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
It could happen. It's only a matter of time before someone else who traveled in Africa breaks out with it here in the US. As it worsens there, the US cases will become more commonplace. I don't think it will be major, either, but I am a bit concerned.

I think as long as it's only transferrable when symptoms are evident, that the US health care system should be able to prevent widespread problems. Although, the hospital in Texas is not making me feel better about that stance.
Oh I'm sure there will be more cases, I just don't think its going to be a big deal.

The Texas hospital clearly didn't handle things correctly and now people are going to panic. The panic has potential to do more harm here than Ebola.

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Think about what happens when it hits Florida...

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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It could happen. It's only a matter of time before someone else who traveled in Africa breaks out with it here in the US. As it worsens there, the US cases will become more commonplace. I don't think it will be major, either, but I am a bit concerned.

I think as long as it's only transferrable when symptoms are evident, that the US health care system should be able to prevent widespread problems. Although, the hospital in Texas is not making me feel better about that stance.
Oh I'm sure there will be more cases, I just don't think its going to be a big deal.

The Texas hospital clearly didn't handle things correctly and now people are going to panic. The panic has potential to do more harm here than Ebola.

This would be the perfect time for that mult.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
It could happen. It's only a matter of time before someone else who traveled in Africa breaks out with it here in the US. As it worsens there, the US cases will become more commonplace. I don't think it will be major, either, but I am a bit concerned.

I think as long as it's only transferrable when symptoms are evident, that the US health care system should be able to prevent widespread problems. Although, the hospital in Texas is not making me feel better about that stance.
Oh I'm sure there will be more cases, I just don't think its going to be a big deal.

The Texas hospital clearly didn't handle things correctly and now people are going to panic. The panic has potential to do more harm here than Ebola.


Yeah, but I think that shows that "regular" hospitals here, evidently, are not capable of dealing with the issue. You start getting 10-15 cases of this around the country, eventually you can't ship everybody to the, apparently, 2 hospitals that we all feel comfortable know what they are doing. It is cause for a little concern.

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99% of the time this country is reactive instead of proactive. Now that this has happened, I'm sure hospitals will be better prepared should somebody with Ebola walk into their facility.


What freaks me out more is the "jokes" that people are going to play, like this fuckhead; http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

He is wears a mask and gloves and gets onto a city bus for a few stops. Then yells "I have Ebola" and runs off the bus. Now the driver and other passengers have to be quarantined for 21 days. All at the expense of taxpayers.

If some asshole played a "joke" like that on me and I had to sit in some bubble wrapped room for 3 weeks, I would literally want to murder him once I got out of there.

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Most of the guys on here don't need Ebola to want to sit in bubble wrap for 3 weeks.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

The Texas hospital clearly didn't handle things correctly


I think we need to know more about whether that is the case, or whether the CDC has misrepresented the ease by which Ebola can spread. We've been told it requires exchange of bodily fluids...but the nurse was wearing a full hazmat suit (per CNN) and still got infected. So how did it happen? Did her bare skin touch some of his fluid? If so, and assuming it didn't touch an open cut (how unlucky /stupid would that be?), doesn't it seem logical that the CDC should state that it can be transmitted by skin contact? Or are they afraid that would start a panic?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

The Texas hospital clearly didn't handle things correctly


I think we need to know more about whether that is the case, or whether the CDC has misrepresented the ease by which Ebola can spread. We've been told it requires exchange of bodily fluids...but the nurse was wearing a full hazmat suit (per CNN) and still got infected. So how did it happen? Did her bare skin touch some of his fluid? If so, and assuming it didn't touch an open cut (how unlucky /stupid would that be?), doesn't it seem logical that the CDC should state that it can be transmitted by skin contact? Or are they afraid that would start a panic?


I saw this morning that when the guy came in the staff didn't cover themselves completely. Their necks were uncovered and they were told they could cover their exposed skin with tape. Some supervisor told them they didn't need to wear masks. I don't know if all that is factual but it sounds like some serious mistakes were made.

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A Liberian Ebola patient was left in an open area of a Dallas emergency room for hours, and the nurses treating him worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols, according to a statement released late Tuesday by the largest U.S. nurses’ union.

Nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting, said Deborah Burger of National Nurses United.

The nurses alleged that:

— Duncan was kept in a non-isolated area of the emergency department for several hours, potentially exposing up to seven other patients to Ebola;
— Patients who may have been exposed to Duncan were kept in isolation only for a day before being moved to areas where there were other patients;
— Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital;
— Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff;
— In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose.

“There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system,” Burger said.

Even today, Burger said, some hospital staff at the Dallas hospital do not have proper equipment to handle the outbreak.

“Hospital managers have assured nurses that proper equipment has been ordered but it has not arrived yet,” she said.

The nurses’ statement said they had to “interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available,” even as he produced “a lot of contagious fluids.” Duncan’s medical records, which his family shared with The Associated Press, underscore some of those concerns.

Almost 12 hours after he arrived in the emergency room by ambulance, his hospital chart says Duncan “continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.” He was feverish and in pain.

When Ebola was suspected but unconfirmed, a doctor wrote “using the disposable shoe covers should also be considered.” At that point, by all protocols, those shoe covers should have been mandatory to prevent anyone from tracking contagious body fluids around the hospital.

A few days later, however, entries in the hospital charts suggest that protection was improving.

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“continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.”


Also qualified him to work as a server at Olive Garden!

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“continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.”


Also qualified him to work as a server at Olive Garden!


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A Liberian Ebola patient was left in an open area of a Dallas emergency room for hours, and the nurses treating him worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols, according to a statement released late Tuesday by the largest U.S. nurses’ union.

Nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient with explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting, said Deborah Burger of National Nurses United.

The nurses alleged that:

— Duncan was kept in a non-isolated area of the emergency department for several hours, potentially exposing up to seven other patients to Ebola;
— Patients who may have been exposed to Duncan were kept in isolation only for a day before being moved to areas where there were other patients;
— Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital;
— Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff;
— In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose.

“There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system,” Burger said.

Even today, Burger said, some hospital staff at the Dallas hospital do not have proper equipment to handle the outbreak.

“Hospital managers have assured nurses that proper equipment has been ordered but it has not arrived yet,” she said.

The nurses’ statement said they had to “interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available,” even as he produced “a lot of contagious fluids.” Duncan’s medical records, which his family shared with The Associated Press, underscore some of those concerns.

Almost 12 hours after he arrived in the emergency room by ambulance, his hospital chart says Duncan “continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.” He was feverish and in pain.

When Ebola was suspected but unconfirmed, a doctor wrote “using the disposable shoe covers should also be considered.” At that point, by all protocols, those shoe covers should have been mandatory to prevent anyone from tracking contagious body fluids around the hospital.

A few days later, however, entries in the hospital charts suggest that protection was improving.


Yeah, that would change things.

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Burn that hospital to the ground.


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“continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.”


Also qualified him to work as a server at Olive Garden!


Chocolate breadsticks.

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“continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.”


Also qualified him to work as a server at Olive Garden!


Chocolate breadsticks.


Those jokes are im-pasta-bly hilarious.

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jimmypasta wrote:
“continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting.”


Also qualified him to work as a server at Olive Garden!


Chocolate breadsticks.


Those jokes are im-pasta-bly hilarious.


Opening a can of Ebola-infected Chef Boy-R-Dee ABCs & 123s might spell disaster.

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Here we go. Now the fun begins.

Good Morning America ‏@GMA 13m13 minutes ago
UPDATE: CDC: Dallas hospital nurse, now diagnosed with Ebola, flew on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 on Monday: http://abcn.ws/1EYfucn

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Here we go. Now the fun begins.

Good Morning America ‏@GMA 13m13 minutes ago
UPDATE: CDC: Dallas hospital nurse, now diagnosed with Ebola, flew on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 on Monday: http://abcn.ws/1EYfucn

I also heard she reclined her seat.

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Here we go. Now the fun begins.

Good Morning America ‏@GMA 13m13 minutes ago
UPDATE: CDC: Dallas hospital nurse, now diagnosed with Ebola, flew on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 on Monday: http://abcn.ws/1EYfucn

I also heard she reclined her seat.


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I doubt it. Fealz was on the flight directly behind her with his knee blockers and $863 carry on suitcase.

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