There is no such thing as a Sabermetric team.

Unless you are applying specific things valued by Billy Beane in a book 14 years ago and applying them to the whole advanced statistic revolution.



But again, The Royals are winning with Home Runs.

Ned Yost

8-0

You suck.

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8 wins, 8 homeruns and at least 8 terrible decisions by Yost

Its extremely impressive how they win in spite of him.

It'll never happen again

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

What did Ned ever do to you?

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Nothing, Im sure he's doing his best. Seems like a nice guy. I hope he's enjoying the run.

Im not gonna pretend he's making smart decisions though.

His use of the bullpen has been masterful.

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Some people disagree with that

The bullpen has been great, though. I wouldnt criticize him in that regard.

What has Yost really had to do with the pen? Not much.

Not hard to use a bullpen that is pitching like that.

If the Giants want to win the world series they better get to the starters in the first 6/7 innings. If it gets to the pen the game is over.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Except when he almost got them knocked out in the Wild Card game vs. Oakland by pulling Shields after 88 pitches which was less than he had thrown in any start all year.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Sheilds had given up 4 runs in 5 IP. A Danksesque line.

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Almost.... what a great word used by losers and people in denial. Thank God I'm functionally illiterate

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Just because you do something stupid and get away with it doesn't make it any less stupid. Take your posts, for example.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Exactly Francis.

The Royals still won the game. Almost counts in horseshoes, not baseball.

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Is it a smart move to hit on 19 in black jack if you end up getting a two?

Not even close to the same thing.

As Frank mentioned, Shields had already busted out.

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I wasnt referring to that move

Some have questioned his holding Holland out anticipating a lead he didnt have yet.

But some in this thread (WWN, my former admirer) that the end justifies the means. I disagree.

I never said the end justifies the means. I just think a team that doesn't have a 15 game winner, a 20 Homer guy, or a 75 RBI guy, the manager has to be doing something right. They remind me of the '67 Pale Hose with Ed Stanky at the helm, good starting pitching, great guys in the pen ( I know it was used differently ) Wihelm,Locker and McMahon.They finished 3 games back with a team that hit in the .220's .Stanky did a helluva a job that year ( Couldn't even win with Walt Williams on it) so give Yost some credit! Also I haven't heard Bochy's named brought up as good manager around here, if he wins it will be his 3rd. Prettydamn impressive!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

That's all I'm saying.

When I was in KC in June, they were ready to run him out of town on a rail.

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I dont give mangers in general a lot of credit. Its not like im in another thread lavishing praise on some Sabermetric manager.


Yost has gone 8 playoff games without screwing his team over and that's more than can be said for a lot of guys so Ill give him that.


But like Walt mentioning Bochy. Yeah he's in his 3rd World series in 5 years so you'd think he'd be good, but he was average or below in SD for all those years. What changed? The players he was managing.

Brian Sabean

Best GM in baseball.

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Do you give hockey coaches,football coaches,and basketball coaches the same lack of credit?

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I dont think its all equal. I cant speak on hockey. I think football and basketball coaches affect their teams more.

A football coach, especially a college football coach, has the most effect on his respective game.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Explain

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A baseball manager might make 5 moves an entire season that impact a team.

Managers/coaches in football, basketball, and hockey are much more important.

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This is not the case for Yost he most have made more than five......and all of them bad

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

What do you think Trestman is doing during a Bears game?

I was under the impression that both co-ordinators called their own plays or defenses.

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Talks to a piece of paper

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Making sure the McCaskey's are not turning him over to the SS.

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