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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:17 pm 
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You don't count here. What Nas' argument is is that there is profiling and folks that are doing no wrong are getting hassled by the po-po. Little snide remarks like this amuse the hell out of me :lol: .

I'm arguing that most of those people that have issues with the police are bringing it upon themselves. It isn't being hassled by the police if you're...you know...actually doing something wrong.

When I get pulled over for going 70 in a 55, you're damn right I'm trying to get out of it. But am I being hassled? Absolutely not. Dude is doing his job.


WTF are you talking about? Are you still pulling shit out of your ass?

I'm still waiting for those posts too.


As am I.

As a person who spent quite a lot of time in and around Commander Burge's old district and who has had cops wrongfully(& bizarrely) pull weapons on me twice, I'm really fascinated by Fast Track's perception of "reality".

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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As a kid I have a million stories. I can recall being stopped 4 times as an adult. I got stopped in Carbondale for reversing in the middle of the street to get to a liquor store. I had 3 girls in the car so they let me go. I got stopped for driving while professionally dressed on the westside at night. They illegally searched my car and bag for drugs. It was ironic because they didn't think I was a drug dealer they thought I might be buying drugs. They let me go when they didn't find anything. I got pulled over for speeding to pick up my kids mother when she went into labor and they gave me a ticket. I got pulled over in Orland (after buying a couple bottles of wine from Cooper's hawk) for driving while black. When he walked up to the car and saw a JORR approved sports coat he told me to have a good night.



A lot of different scenarios brought up since I got busy. In light of your post here though and leaving aside the specific Brown case have you ever thought to start a "ruckus" and go for a gun. Again just in your personal experience. I think most would not.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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I got pulled over in Orland (after buying a couple bottles of wine from Cooper's hawk) for driving while black.



You sure the charge wasn't driving with shitty wine?

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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You don't count here. What Nas' argument is is that there is profiling and folks that are doing no wrong are getting hassled by the po-po. Little snide remarks like this amuse the hell out of me :lol: .

I'm arguing that most of those people that have issues with the police are bringing it upon themselves. It isn't being hassled by the police if you're...you know...actually doing something wrong.

When I get pulled over for going 70 in a 55, you're damn right I'm trying to get out of it. But am I being hassled? Absolutely not. Dude is doing his job.


WTF are you talking about? Are you still pulling shit out of your ass?

I'm still waiting for those posts too.


As am I.

As a person who spent quite a lot of time in and around Commander Burge's old district and who has had cops wrongfully(& bizarrely) pull weapons on me twice, I'm really fascinated by Fast Track's perception of "reality".


Serious question RR.

Are you really surprised that a kid that grew up in Schaumburg and thinks that his hometown is heaven on earth, would really not have any idea that blacks are often treated differently then whites by cops?

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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I actually believe that the number of crooked cops is low. The number of asshole cops is high.

So you think the assholes never abuse their power? That's what we are talking about.


No, I think in one way or another every cop abuses their power. Anyone in customer service can tell you countless stories of "I'm a cop" BS.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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Serious question RR.

Are you really surprised that a kid that grew up in Schaumburg and thinks that his hometown is heaven on earth, would really not have any idea that blacks are often treated differently then whites by cops?


Sadly, no.

I will admit to being somewhat surprised at the arrogance he's putting on display here though. I guess I've never really read most of his posts.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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In a twist of irony, I got pulled over by a black cop the other day for having a license plate that was 2 days expired (waiting on the new sticker to come in the mail). He graciously let me go after my impressive display of verbal ego fellatio.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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I grew up in Schaumburg too. Doesn't prevent me from reading.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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FavreFan wrote:
I grew up in Schaumburg too. Doesn't prevent me from reading.


No it's your illiteracy that does that.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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As a kid I have a million stories. I can recall being stopped 4 times as an adult. I got stopped in Carbondale for reversing in the middle of the street to get to a liquor store. I had 3 girls in the car so they let me go. I got stopped for driving while professionally dressed on the westside at night. They illegally searched my car and bag for drugs. It was ironic because they didn't think I was a drug dealer they thought I might be buying drugs. They let me go when they didn't find anything. I got pulled over for speeding to pick up my kids mother when she went into labor and they gave me a ticket. I got pulled over in Orland (after buying a couple bottles of wine from Cooper's hawk) for driving while black. When he walked up to the car and saw a JORR approved sports coat he told me to have a good night.



A lot of different scenarios brought up since I got busy. In light of your post here though and leaving aside the specific Brown case have you ever thought to start a "ruckus" and go for a gun. Again just in your personal experience. I think most would not.


Truthfully if I feared for my life or the life of one of my kids I would do just about anything. As a kid I've had them try to frame me and make me thank them for not doing it. I've had them pull guns on me and my aunt. I've had them search my boxers and make me sit on the ground with my ass out and many other things. They didn't arrest me or apologize. I've seen them choke and beat the shit out of others as a kid. Sometimes they had a legitimate reason but other times they were just harassing everyone.

Other than the last 2 times I was stopped I used to be scared to death whenever I got pulled over by the police. There aren't many things that scare me but that was near the top of the list. I said yes sir so many times to one cop as a teen that he told me to stop saying it and I immediately said it again. I had a fear of my life being destroyed because I got framed by the police. As a young black male I didn't expect any court or jury to take my word over the word of an officer. Now I don't have that same fear but they don't bother me any more.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I actually believe that the number of crooked cops is low. The number of asshole cops is high.

So you think the assholes never abuse their power? That's what we are talking about.


No, I think in one way or another every cop abuses their power. Anyone in customer service can tell you countless stories of "I'm a cop" BS.


not true. no cop would ever use their powers to leverage free or discounted food & beverage


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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I grew up in Schaumburg too. Doesn't prevent me from reading.


No it's your illiteracy that does that.


Hank vs. FF is heating up!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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I grew up in Schaumburg too. Doesn't prevent me from reading.


No it's your illiteracy that does that.


Hank vs. FF is heating up!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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Don Tiny wrote:
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I grew up in Schaumburg too. Doesn't prevent me from reading.


No it's your illiteracy that does that.


Hank vs. FF is heating up!!!


I hope FF knows I'm joking. He may have terrible taste in teams and players but I'm fairly confident he CAN read.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I grew up in Schaumburg too. Doesn't prevent me from reading.


No it's your illiteracy that does that.


Hank vs. FF is heating up!!!


I hope FF knows I'm joking. He may have terrible taste in teams and players but I'm fairly confident he CAN read.

And if he can't read you have nothing to worry about!


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No it's your illiteracy that does that.


Hank vs. FF is heating up!!!


I hope FF knows I'm joking. He may have terrible taste in teams and players but I'm fairly confident he CAN read.

And if he can't read you have nothing to worry about!

:lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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Nas wrote:
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As a kid I have a million stories. I can recall being stopped 4 times as an adult. I got stopped in Carbondale for reversing in the middle of the street to get to a liquor store. I had 3 girls in the car so they let me go. I got stopped for driving while professionally dressed on the westside at night. They illegally searched my car and bag for drugs. It was ironic because they didn't think I was a drug dealer they thought I might be buying drugs. They let me go when they didn't find anything. I got pulled over for speeding to pick up my kids mother when she went into labor and they gave me a ticket. I got pulled over in Orland (after buying a couple bottles of wine from Cooper's hawk) for driving while black. When he walked up to the car and saw a JORR approved sports coat he told me to have a good night.



A lot of different scenarios brought up since I got busy. In light of your post here though and leaving aside the specific Brown case have you ever thought to start a "ruckus" and go for a gun. Again just in your personal experience. I think most would not.


Truthfully if I feared for my life or the life of one of my kids I would do just about anything. As a kid I've had them try to frame me and make me thank them for not doing it. I've had them pull guns on me and my aunt. I've had them search my boxers and make me sit on the ground with my ass out and many other things. They didn't arrest me or apologize. I've seen them choke and beat the shit out of others as a kid. Sometimes they had a legitimate reason but other times they were just harassing everyone.

Other than the last 2 times I was stopped I used to be scared to death whenever I got pulled over by the police. There aren't many things that scare me but that was near the top of the list. I said yes sir so many times to one cop as a teen that he told me to stop saying it and I immediately said it again. I had a fear of my life being destroyed because I got framed by the police. As a young black male I didn't expect any court or jury to take my word over the word of an officer. Now I don't have that same fear but they don't bother me any more.



As I assumed my cop hassles are vastly different than yours so my original statement should not have assumed "most" would not grab for a cop's gun.

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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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 Post subject: Re: Michael Brown
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Who does find themselves in altercations with police, I will admit, I have never had one and hope I don't?


You have never had your car searched illegally?

Have you?

I mean, other than the flashlight inspection as they walk up to the car. I havent had an issue.


Several times when I was younger. My buddy and I got arrested for simple possession about twenty years ago. He told the cop that he was not consenting to a search. The cop just called a few more cops, asked us to step out of the vehicle, and they went through the car. In their report, they said my buddy consented to the search. It's their word vs. yours, and they will lie their ass off, if they have to.

The cops are not your friends. They abuse their power daily, and infringe upon the rights of citizens. I'm glad I'm not as naive as IMU. Getting arrested at 18 really opened up my eyes. And this is coming from a white kid from Wheaton. I can't imagine what the brothers have had to deal with.

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You have never had your car searched illegally?

Have you?

I mean, other than the flashlight inspection as they walk up to the car. I havent had an issue.


as a frequent view of Cops, I love when the cop asks someone they just pulled over for a burnt out license plate light : "is it ok if i search your car ? "

i think as with DUI's and other stops, in the heat of the moment you may not know exactly what to do/say and 99% of the time the people say "sure, go ahead" and i cringe


Never let them in your house, never let them search anything and have a lawyer present for dealings.


And if they do find something, do not say another word, until your lawyer is present.

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That is a Donald Fagen tune, correct?


From his first solo album I believe ...

What a beautiful world this could be,
Only whites living near you and me.
What a beautiful would this would be,
Why oh why did we set them all free.

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Don Tiny wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That is a Donald Fagen tune, correct?


From his first solo album I believe ...

What a beautiful world this could be,
Only whites living near you and me.
What a beautiful would this would be,
Why oh why did we set them all free.


i actually enjoy that album


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Bagels wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
That is a Donald Fagen tune, correct?


From his first solo album I believe ...

What a beautiful world this could be,
Only whites living near you and me.
What a beautiful would this would be,
Why oh why did we set them all free.


i actually enjoy that album

I'm not one to care about record production much, but The Nightfly sounded impeccable.


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Never let them in your house, never let them search anything and have a lawyer present for dealings.


And if they do find something, do not say another word, until your lawyer is present.


Yep. They aren't there to hear your side of the story or whatever, they are there to get revenue or put you in jail.

But their behavior is also due to a citizenry that doesn't seem to care about its collective rights. That mentality breeds this stuff.

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DO.YOUR.JOB


LEARN. TO. SPELL.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
That is a Donald Fagen tune, correct?


From his first solo album I believe ...

What a beautiful world this could be,
Only whites living near you and me.
What a beautiful would this would be,
Why oh why did we set them all free.


i actually enjoy that album

It's really solid. That shuffle on Walk Between Raindrops is so tight.

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