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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:48 am 
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Now check the 2014 list and let me know what you think. Doesn't include yesterdays totals.


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Now check the 2014 list and let me know what you think. Doesn't include yesterdays totals.

So the formula has been perfected?

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Nas, what the hell are you talking about? At the beginning of the season, it was a consensus that the Bears probably had more offensive talent than any team in the NFL. And yet, the Bears are 20th in points per game. 20TH! I realize you'll come back and try to blame that all on Trestman, which is total bullshit.

The offense never looks in rhythm, they have tons of 3 and outs, they keep the "D" on the field too much, and they turn the ball over too much (or at least Cutler does).

I don't know if you're trolling or not, but Cutler has played like garbage, and he is garbage. The stats you list tell us nothing. Cutler had 3 TD's and 1 INT yesterday, and I think everyone would agree that his stats yesterday are representative of nothing.

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I have no idea. This years list looks pretty accurate.

As far as last years list.....of course Rodgers wouldn't be in the top 5.....last year. He missed 7 games. The Luck and Ryan rankings seem wrong.


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Everyone knows advanced metrics don't work in football. There are too many variables.


Oh, ok. Nevermind then.

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If Jay ever gets the right offensive coordinator you'll see he's better than Montana or Unitas.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:07 am 
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Jay is in his usual spot in the QB rankings: 13th


Slightly above average


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Nas, what the hell are you talking about? At the beginning of the season, it was a consensus that the Bears probably had more offensive talent than any team in the NFL. And yet, the Bears are 20th in points per game. 20TH! I realize you'll come back and try to blame that all on Trestman, which is total bullshit.

The offense never looks in rhythm, they have tons of 3 and outs, they keep the "D" on the field too much, and they turn the ball over too much (or at least Cutler does).

I don't know if you're trolling or not, but Cutler has played like garbage, and he is garbage. The stats you list tell us nothing. Cutler had 3 TD's and 1 INT yesterday, and I think everyone would agree that his stats yesterday are representative of nothing.


I've stated how I see things. Cutler has NOT played well the past 2 weeks. Beyond that his numbers have been better than any of you all expected. Despite playing the toughest schedule in the first half and despite the play calling that he has complained about.

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Jay is the same slightly above average QB he's always been


That's what he is and always will be


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Nas, what the hell are you talking about? At the beginning of the season, it was a consensus that the Bears probably had more offensive talent than any team in the NFL. And yet, the Bears are 20th in points per game. 20TH! I realize you'll come back and try to blame that all on Trestman, which is total bullshit.

The offense never looks in rhythm, they have tons of 3 and outs, they keep the "D" on the field too much, and they turn the ball over too much (or at least Cutler does).

I don't know if you're trolling or not, but Cutler has played like garbage, and he is garbage. The stats you list tell us nothing. Cutler had 3 TD's and 1 INT yesterday, and I think everyone would agree that his stats yesterday are representative of nothing.

The fumble TD was all him. He's careless with the ball in the pocket. Doesn't show up on the stat sheet like picks but past 2 weeks have been much worse turnovers.


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Nas wrote:
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Never has been in the top 10


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Never has been in the top 10


I wouldn't put him top 15. There are career journeymen I would take ahead of him.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Jay is the same slightly above average QB he's always been


That's what he is and always will be


Which makes him worse than a really bad quarterback because you would never pay that guy $126 million.

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Has Mel Tucker been fired yet?

How much does he make?

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Nas wrote:
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Never has been in the top 10


He's been top 10 all year.

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Nas wrote:
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Never has been in the top 10


He's been top 10 all year.



Top 10 biggest losers in NFL history. The Bears cannot and will not begin to heal until this utter bum is long gone.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Never has been in the top 10


He's been top 10 all year.



Top 10 biggest losers in NFL history. The Bears cannot and will not begin to heal until this utter bum is long gone.


I don't think he has ever had a losing season.

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I don't think he has ever had a losing season.


Put him in the Hall of Fame then!

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I don't think he has ever had a losing season.
7-9 in 2009, 8-8 in 2011 and 2013, and barring some sort of miracle they will likely be under .500 this year as well. Mediocrity defined.

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I don't think he has ever had a losing season.
7-9 in 2009, 8-8 in 2011 and 2013, and barring some sort of miracle they will likely be under .500 this year as well. Mediocrity defined.



But worse. Because you're paying him like he's a Manning.

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He is the John Danks of quarterbacks.

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He is the John Danks of quarterbacks.



Decent comparison, but he has a little more "stuff" than Danks. He's more like the Jeff Samardzija of quarterbacks. He'll always do enough in losing that people like Nas will tell you how great he is.

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I meant it more so with production/stats vs salary.

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Jay is 7th in passing yards. There are more metrics than just passing yards.

There are 15 QB's that I would rather have than Cuntler.

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Jay is 7th in passing yards. There are more metrics than just passing yards.

There are 15 QB's that I would rather have than Cuntler.


You're right! He's 6th in touchdowns, 8th in completion percentage, 10th in QBR, *10th in yards per game, 11th in passing plays of 40+ yards and 10th in 1st downs.



*QBs with 155+ passes

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Jay is 7th in passing yards. There are more metrics than just passing yards.

There are 15 QB's that I would rather have than Cuntler.


You're right! He's 6th in touchdowns, 8th in completion percentage, 10th in QBR, *10th in yards per game, 11th in passing plays of 40+ yards and 10th in 1st downs.



*QBs with 155+ passes


(20th in ANY/A)

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