You recall wrong. They replaced him with Freddie Gonzalez and they wouldnt have fired him if Gonzalez wasn't waiting in the wings.

Yes they would have, Loria would have out of spite.

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Grady Little was better than Rick Renteria


Look its very clear you will spin any possible move to make anyone involved with the Cubs in a negative light.


This example where the very common practice of replacing a manager is being passed off as the evil move of a ruthless corporation and we sdhoud feel sorry for millionaire Rick Reneteria is a perfect example


No one anywhere in any other media is ripping the Cubs for this. No one anywhere else is even taking exception to the process. Ya know why? Because its normal and most people don't have a hate for the Cubs so strong it drives them to make irrational statements

From the day Girardi snapped at Loria, it was an open secret that he was getting fired, just a matter of when. It wasn't that Fredi Gonzalez became available and they immediately had to fire a good manager to get a better manager. It was Loria being a bucket of fucks like he always is.

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You have no possibe way of knowing that.

Either way it was a manager fired after one year and replaced by a hot managerial candidate


I already said they might not fit Jorrs perametersc


I had to correct Curious Hair's mistake after the arrogance with which he posted it


Gonzalez was not a nobody. Maybe Wrigley field fan Curious Hair should look things up

Yeah, Gonzalez was not a nobody. He was the hottest manager candidate at the time.

And you have what possible way of knowing they wouldn't have, so I guess it is a standstill. Although Reader agreed with me, so I win.

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As a matter of fact, one of stations was doing a special on the Marlins at the time and I remember he wanted his ass fired right away, but his people talked him out of it. Loria was fucking irate. He would have hired you to manage at the time.

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What is happening with Renteria is in no way a common occurrence. I still don't see why it is so hard to be honest about the situation.

It would be pretty simple to say "Yes JORR, you are right that Renteria is not getting a fair shake, but things like this can happen".

Instead, we are acting like a bad manager is being fired and then they are finding someone else.

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Exactly. Girardi won Manager of the Year that season and still got fired. He really was a hair's breadth from getting fired after that very game.

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This can be applied to any and all moves made by the team

Just be honest about it.

So, can we assume you think Renteria is getting a fair shake?

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But he didn't fire him that day, did he? Why not?

You don't think the fact that supposed Bobby Cox Jr being available had anything to do with it?


Regardless, I've already said it wasn't the same thing. But let's not try and make it sound even worse with they hired" some stooge" nonsense


They hired the manager teams had been fawning over for years

Every day that you're allowed to work for someone as smart as Theo Epstein is a grace. Not even a guaranteed contract should be guaranteed. Renteria should be thankful that Theo probably won't even dock his pay that much.

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In sample size including the last 106 years of "moves", I'd have to agree with you.

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I'm the only one being honest.


It's not a unique situation where a manager like Renteria here, doesn't get "a fair shake"

Its incredibly common.

I'm sure you would. You seem to be be of those types


didn't you apply the same thinking to the White Sox for 86 years or nah?

How much grief do you think ol' H. Bruce takes now that his dim-witted kid has doggedly let loose with that line of reasoning?

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Confused.

So he isn't getting a fair shake, but you are somehow upset that people are saying he isn't getting a fair shake?

What exactly is your problem with what evil Sox fans are saying?

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Who is this aimed at? Anyone on the board or just in general?

Dan Bernstein or Dan Bernsteins clones that call his show?

Not upset in the least.

There are some people seemingly upset in this thread but its not me

I disagree wth this being unique to the Cubs but certain Sox fans disagree.

And that's....OK. I'm just pointing out some patterns.

If you are saying you want to wager the Cubs will be under .500 in both 2015 and 2016 then I'd be up for some action

WTF is a fair shake? Sounds like something Senator Widestance would offer.

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Well, I think it is unique that a team is negotiating with a different coach with the other one still there(and being viewed as Plan B) after one year, but I must be forgetting how this happens all the time everywhere.

So, when the Cubs hire Maddon, do they fire Renteria on the same day, because that would certainly be something I haven't seen very often.

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Well, since spnaky was literally incapable of doing so, maybe you can point out some instances where teams have openly courted another manager/coach without first firing the previous one.

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why the hell would it matter if it was on the same day ?

this is the dumbest thread i've seen in a long time. rpb is putting in yeoman's work here, buddah bless

Are you suggesting that it is common to hire another manager while there is already one in place? I'm not sure I've ever seen it.

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Well I have to agree with Spanky that your use of "openly" is not close to correct.


Its happening behind the scenes as it usuaslky does.

It happens more in football and basketball than baseball (because there aren't many hot college baseball coaches)